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      01-31-2012, 09:35 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by Quick6EF View Post
To minimize muscle loss, pay close attention to your caloric deficit. Be patient and track your weight/mirror closely. You can try a 350-500 calorie deficit.

Good job on a successful bulk.
thanks man

Originally Posted by ejazbmw View Post
i don't think its possible to lose fat and not muscle at the same time or am i wrong? every time i try to cut i always end up losing some muscle.
thats what i said at the beginning of my post.

Originally Posted by dfv2 View Post, try an IF protocol like his or similar with some mild stims, yohimbine hcl, sesamin, alphaburn, etc. Also, the boys at have this down to a science and have been doing this for years. Getting very lean takes either drugs, great genetics and/or the absence of carbohydrates/insulin for the majority of the day.
will check, thanks for the websites.

i dont think i have that kind of genetics but will try to get as low as i can without drugs..