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      07-15-2012, 09:33 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by RPM90 View Post
Well now that's a new one, "loose steering".

We've had "light", "no feel", "lifeless", etc...
"Loose" is not a word I would use to describe the F30 steering at all.
It's far from loose.

Yes, the 'effort' to turn the wheel is light, too light, when set in eco or comfort mode. But in sport mode the effort increases nicely and is very much like my E46 was and how my 135i is.
The effort is not as heavy, but it's very nice.

Those of you who keep harping on the steering, do you not know to switch to "sport' mode?
That's the only explanation I can see.
Personally, I don't know why BMW did this ridiculous 'drive mode' thing, where the steering effort is affected. All it's done is create and add fuel this steering debate.
Perhaps someone wants less throttle response, why I have not idea, and a trans that shifts are very low rpm to save fuel.
But why lighten the steering effort?
Electric steering already saves a wee bit of fuel, making the effort lighter means the electric steering assist is working more often, which means it uses more power. Counter intuitive really.

The F30 steering is direct, precise, with excellent on-center feel, and in sport mode it's weighted nicely.
How that can be "bad" I don't know. People are really making a mountain out of mole hill.
Yes, it's not the same as the previous hydraulic setup. It's different.
But, it don't suck either.
By loose I was referring to it being light, which it is, especially compared to E46 and E90. Given that you are the resident BMW apologist, not surprised that people not liking anything about BMW are 'harping' in your opinion. And yes, I do know how to turn on Sport mode - even with Sport mode, the steering seemed too light to me. I, like a lot of others on this site, am a hard core BMW enthusiast - but not a blind one.

The new light steering may not bother you, but it does others, so don't try to attack those that don't like it, and do not foist your opinion as if it is fact - some of us just don't like the lightness (and it can also be inferred as loose - because a light, unweighted steering does feel loose). This is an enthusiast forum, for BMW enthusiasts, which all those that post here are, and a lot of us will buy the F30 - but yes, we will criticize things that we don't like - and for an enthusiast, the legendary BMW steering has been diluted. Want to bet there will be an update on the steering S/W soon? Porsche builds amazing EPS, and I have no doubt that BMW can as well - they just need to hear from their enthusiasts, and that is exactly what we are doing. If you don't like us posting about it, ignore it rather than getting into personal attacks.
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