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      01-03-2013, 10:19 AM   #39
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Originally Posted by BavarianFanatic View Post
Nope. I'm having a great day.

There's a track within an hour of Philly - New Jersey Motorsports Park. Look it up.

Then of course there's Summit Point, Watkins Glen, Pocono, VIR, etc. that are a bit further, but well worth the drive.

So, you're one of the 1%. Therefore you have no point of reference or understanding about just how important cooling is.

The BMWCCA is one of the largest enthusiast automotive clubs in the world (if not THE largest). Imagine the other side of the coin if BMW didn't take this into consideration. Not having fog lights is a small price to pay for not burning down cars on track. These motors run very, very high oil temperatures. It's not a game.

Even if only 1% actually do track their cars, don't you think it would be a bit ridiculous if BMW just ignored that fact and delivered cars that weren't able to handle it? Sure, they're not P-cars or F-cars, but they're still a well respected, performance-oriented brand. You just don't deliver a product that "looks" like it will deliver, but ultimately doesn't.

By the way, I'm not making this up. It's straight from the proverbial horse's mouth. I'm not guessing, speculating or theorizing. Hate all you want, I really don't care. I just think it's ridiculous how many folks on here resort to conspiracy theories to explain away things they don't understand. And it's even MORE ridiculous the same damn crap is brought up over and over again when it's been played out a million times before. The OP started a thread about the fact that he discovered the M Sport has auxiliary cooling. It's degraded into a bitchfest about BMW cheapening their products and hiding that fact behind bullshit marketing.

I am one of the few who do track their cars, modify their cars.

It's not so much a conspiracy. Take the rose colored glasses off. BMW is a corporation first. One out to make money.

No one is saying they made an inferior product by deleting the fog lights for NA cars. But for a long time now, fog lights are one of these features stripped from model to model as a means of saving money.

If you look at the shape and surface area of the fog light, you would see, it's not a deal breaker.

Fact is, if the fog light really was a restriction NO where in the world would they be installed on the M-Sport.

You happen to notice in other countries M-Sports either come with the bigger brakes or it's a $350 option? Nothing like that for the US?(unless you count M-Performance stuff for $2k) Why is that? Oh yeah, BMW wanted to keep the unsprung weight down on the US cars because US drivers are more concerned with handling over braking.
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