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      04-17-2012, 12:43 PM   #89
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I didn't read all of the posts, so I don't know if this was covered.

The S4 is going to launch better than the 335i, as the S4 is AWD.

If you need more interior space and bigger boot, I would go with the S4.

On the brightside, it would be easier to tune a 335i with a turbo than an S4
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      04-17-2012, 12:51 PM   #90
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Guys, better compare the F30 interior/IDrive vs the S4 interior /MMI. Then the F30 will win. Just because it's newer(better integrated)

Coming from a F10 5 series I cannot see why the Audi A6 interior/MMI should be better and/or more ergonomical. I think they are on par. I prefer the F10 5 series interior by far over ANY Audi interior....
Not sure. The new A6 interior is pretty damn nice. I'd say BMW is still behind when comparing it to the F10. The MMI touchpad is really nice.

I have a hard time comparing a regular F30 interior to a S4. The S4 having alcantara inserts, carbon fiber trim, bigger bolstered seats, better steering wheel. The materials just look more quality. But a base A4 is a different story.
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I've been thru 5 bimmers in the past 12 years but if I had a choice right now between the f30 335 or the S4, I'm pretty sure I'd choose the S4 regardless of carbon issues, MMI etc.

Now the F30 with Mpkg might sway me a little because aesthetics's wise it's better than the S4 but in the Real World (& 4 seasons) a 335i with no mechanical differential is not in the same class as an S4 regardless what Autobild tells me after driving it around the track over the course of few hours.
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On the brightside, it would be easier to tune a 335i with a turbo than an S4
I would agree if it still had the n54.

A giac tune only S4 just put down 412whp.
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I would agree if it still had the n54.

A giac tune only S4 just put down 412whp.
You can't tune n55s? Didn't Dinan come out with a tune? I'm not saying they are the only ones who can tune an n55 (don't know in reality).
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      04-17-2012, 12:59 PM   #94
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I agree, I have a 2012 A6 and my wife has a 2011 328xi, we both prefer the MMI over the I-drive. Both interiors are pretty high quality, but the Audi interior is much brighter and younger looking, where as BMW's interior is more traditional, dark and old fashion.
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Guys, better compare the F30 interior/IDrive vs the S4 interior /MMI. Then the F30 will win. Just because it's newer(better integrated)

Coming from a F10 5 series I cannot see why the Audi A6 interior/MMI should be better and/or more ergonomical. I think they are on par. I prefer the F10 5 series interior by far over ANY Audi interior....
I actually preferred the look of the pre-LCI A4/S4 to the E90, including the interior, though due really to the bland E90 interior design that did away with driver oriented design (I have E46 now).

But, +1 to Robin. I much prefer the F30 look, both inside and out to A4/S4 and actually think the look of the Audi front end regressed with the LCI.

But, like others, I think BMW could have done a better job with the hood line, though it seems it was done primarily to reduce repair (and insurance) costs for front end damage. Maybe they'll change that in the F80 M3 to differentiate since overall build numbers will be a lot lower and less cost sensitive.
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You can't tune n55s? Didn't Dinan come out with a tune? I'm not saying they are the only ones who can tune an n55 (don't know in reality).
Plenty of tunes for the N55. The potential isn't there like the N54. With similar mods, the N54 is putting down more power.
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BMW needs to give the 335i a bump in hp/tq so it could totally own the s4!
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Thanks! The footwell lights are nice and bright and white. The armrest lights are also a nice touch. I would have like to see BMW bring the drivers side console down like the passenger side. It kind of looks funny with passenger side with and drivers side without the console wall. Also nice to see you don't have the ghastly red stripe. That red stripe makes the BMW look like a ricer car. No idea why BMW would put it in a Luxury Sports Sedan.
I ordered the red w/silver and personally I like it... then again Im 23 and the subtle red stripe is a lot less flashy than the air-ride on my current audi
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Does everyone have those lights on the airbag thing? i never noticed those in my car....
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Thanks! The footwell lights are nice and bright and white. The armrest lights are also a nice touch. I would have like to see BMW bring the drivers side console down like the passenger side. It kind of looks funny with passenger side with and drivers side without the console wall. Also nice to see you don't have the ghastly red stripe. That red stripe makes the BMW look like a ricer car. No idea why BMW would put it in a Luxury Sports Sedan.
Oh, this isn't my car-- I just saw the link in the media gallery and pasted it here. Full disclosure though: I also have the ghastly red stripe.... *awkward* But I'm young (26 med student) so I find it quite attractive.

Also of note-- BMW is trying to separate out that term, "Luxury Sports Sedan" as evidenced by their lines (luxury, sport, modern lines). Since I opted for the "sports" line, I consider my f30 more of a sports car than a luxury car. Obviously, it's more luxurious than a Honda or Toyota but predominately, my first thoughts about my car is that it's a sports car. So to me, that semi-justifies the red stripe.
If I opted for the luxury line, that red stripe wouldn't EVER come in the equation.

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I ordered the red w/silver and personally I like it... then again Im 23 and the subtle red stripe is a lot less flashy than the air-ride on my current audi
Cheers, mate! We're young and wild and free-- red stripes ftw

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Does everyone have those lights on the airbag thing? i never noticed those in my car....
My understanding is that this car had the light package but I could be wrong. I haven't noticed the airbag lights on my car either

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Oh, this isn't my car-- I just saw the link in the media gallery and pasted it here. Full disclosure though: I also have the ghastly red stripe.... *awkward* But I'm young (26 med student) so I find it quite attractive.

Also of note-- BMW is trying to separate out that term, "Luxury Sports Sedan" as evidenced by their lines (luxury, sport, modern lines). Since I opted for the "sports" line, I consider my f30 more of a sports car than a luxury car. Obviously, it's more luxurious than a Honda or Toyota cars but predominately, my first thoughts about my car is that it's a sports car. So to me, that semi-justifies the red stripe.
If I opted for the luxury line, that red stripe wouldn't NEVER come in the equation.



Cheers, mate! We're young and wild and free-- red stripes ftw


+1

I also ordered the silver with red and I love it but then again I just turn 30! getting old but not ready to be old just yet.

I also see BMW more as a sport brand, hence the hard suspension and stiff steering. Isnt this BMW's vision as well? I would hope since they offer thing like performance centre delivery and M performance school.
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      04-17-2012, 05:10 PM   #101
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I think Audi's navigation system was designed by the developers of the Sega Genesis. Don't get me wrong, I loved NBA Jam and Mortal Kombat on the Sega, but the new iDrive in the F30 blows that sucker away!

The overall interior experience of the new 3-series is first rate. I parked the F30 next to the E90 at the dealership and went from interior to interior. The updates BMW made are impressive.
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For everyone who likes the Audi's looks better, you can have your glorified VolksWagen, more F30 for me!
I'm thinking that you're a troll and that the VW GTI I had in 1988 would beat your 2001 325.
What does that have to do with the Audi's looks? All I'm saying is that I prefer the BMW's sculpted lines and aggressive styling over the Audi's boring flat lines which are reminiscent of a VW.
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The F30 M3 is about to slaughter the competition.
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      04-17-2012, 08:58 PM   #104
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What does that have to do with the Audi's looks? All I'm saying is that I prefer the BMW's sculpted lines and aggressive styling over the Audi's boring flat lines which are reminiscent of a VW.
The point is that there is no relationship between any VW and the A4/S4 other than they are jointly owned.
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audi's interiors are shit. Looks like a chrysler's
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They should have compared a M Sport 335i vs the S4.
When you add the M sport they are even on price.
i agree... or a 335is which is compareable in power...

I just ordered a 2013 s4 so im partial to that in the competition. After driving both the s4 and 335 back to back, they feel very similar. On a track im sure they feel very different but on the streets theyre very similar.

imo u cant loose with either one!
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...each manufacturer has reasons for doing things MAC vs Windows and Audi engineers don't just put buttons there for the hell of it.
Speaking of which, I see that the F30 has the classic door unlock button in between the vents on the center dash. I never understood the reason for that.
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Speaking of which, I see that the F30 has the classic door unlock button in between the vents on the center dash. I never understood the reason for that.
+1.

It's really irritating that this switch is not in the door panel with the rest of the door & window switchgear.
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They should have compared a M Sport 335i vs the S4.
When you add the M sport they are even on price.
Hahahah true
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Lol anyone notice the BMW driver is drinking from a thermos while still racing around a track...hmmm
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