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      09-21-2012, 12:45 PM   #859
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How do I know if I have 6VC Combox? I looked and don't see any caf files labeled as such. Still trying to get BMW Online to work on Non-Nav, non-BMWAssit, US vehicle.
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How do I know if I have 6VC Combox? I looked and don't see any caf files labeled as such. Still trying to get BMW Online to work on Non-Nav, non-BMWAssit, US vehicle.
No BMW Assist = no combox AFAIK.

You can also check www.bmwvin.com

I have nav + BMW Assist, and bmwvin shows for my VIN:

S6AAA BMW TELESERVICES BMW TeleServices
S6ABA STEUERUNG TELESERVICES Control for Teleservices
S6NLA ANBIND.BLUETOOTH-U.USB-GERAETE INKL Connection Bluetooth + USB devices incl.
S6UHA TRAFFIC INFORMATION Traffic Information
S6VAA CIC ZUSTEUERUNG CIC-Zusteuerung


I don't see an individual 6VC code in my build, it may be part of one of the above packages.
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      09-21-2012, 01:24 PM   #861
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No BMW Assist = no combox AFAIK.

You can also check www.bmwvin.com

I have nav + BMW Assist, and bmwvin shows for my VIN:

S6AAA BMW TELESERVICES BMW TeleServices
S6ABA STEUERUNG TELESERVICES Control for Teleservices
S6NLA ANBIND.BLUETOOTH-U.USB-GERAETE INKL Connection Bluetooth + USB devices incl.
S6UHA TRAFFIC INFORMATION Traffic Information
S6VAA CIC ZUSTEUERUNG CIC-Zusteuerung


I don't see an individual 6VC code in my build, it may be part of one of the above packages.
There are two Combox flavors, Combox Media (without BMW Assist) and Combox Telematics (w/ BMW Assist). U.S. cars with a factory Combox are all Combox Telematics, although either flavor could be retrofitted into a U.S. car.

bmwvin.com is definitively the easiest fastest way to check factory options.

In E-Sys though, Combox Media will be shown as CMB_MEDIA, and Combox Telematics will have CMB_MEDIA and CMB_ECALL.

The newer cars have have all Combox functions built into the Head Unit now, so those functions would be in HU_CIC, and you will not have separate options for 6VC Combox or 6FL USB Port..
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According to www.bmwvin.com (great link that)...

These are my phone/bluetooth codes.

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      09-21-2012, 04:28 PM   #863
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Has anyone noticed that after they make a change as outlined in svache's original cheat sheet that when the re-read the data into E-Sys those changes are marked as "INVALID" or "UNKNOWN".

IOW, if you go through the entire coding process and then reload that item, even though it accepted your input and uploaded it to the ECU, the hardware deems it invalid.

I had this happen with SV_Activate_Speed_Limit and SV_Deactivate_Speed_Limit. Both were accepted -- and they actually did what I expected.

But I hated having the side view cameras on at any speed (it's comic -- you should try it at 95mph). When I went to set them back to their defaults, I noticed they were invalid.
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      09-21-2012, 05:23 PM   #864
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I don't see a whole lot in your CIC that would cover Combox functions.
His can doesn't have combox, only 6NH.
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      09-21-2012, 05:28 PM   #865
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I don't see an individual 6VC code in my build, it may be part of one of the above packages.
U have 6NL so u have combox telematics.
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      09-21-2012, 06:38 PM   #866
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His can doesn't have combox, only 6NH.
Yes, I know that. With the discontinuation of the standalone 6VC Combox, the Combox functions (Bluetooth & Multimedia) where equipped have been offloaded to other modules, presumably the CIC.

The exercise I was doing was trying to find the relocated FDL Coding parameters, specific to BMW Live / Internet that exist in older Combox equipped cars, in the Head Unit of newer cars.

That said, I did not find them in his particular HU_CIC CAFD. That means, either they were offloaded to a different module, or his car is not equipped to support BMW Live / Internet at the hardware level, so accordingly his specific HU_CIC CAFD lacks those parameters.

What really needs to be examined is a list of ECU's, and the HU_CIC CAFD File for an F30 with factory 614 and 615, in order to locate the FDL Coding parameters specific to BMW Live / Internet, and from there, once understood, a determination can be made whether this can be coded on non 614, 615 equipped cars, and if so, what the minimum vehicle options / hardware are needed to support it.
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      09-22-2012, 01:16 AM   #867
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Yes, I know that. With the discontinuation of the standalone 6VC Combox, the Combox functions (Bluetooth & Multimedia) where equipped have been offloaded to other modules, presumably the CIC.
On F30's with 6NK/NL, standalone 6VC combox still exists. The part numbers for the headunits are different for cars with 6NH & 6NK/NL, presumably w/6NH the BT & usb functions are built into the headunit & for 6NH/NK, either it's disabled & handed over to the combox or it lacks the BT & usb hardware (cos it has combox).
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Shawn my HU_CIC is..
CAFD_000000F9_007_001_005.ncd

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I don't see a whole lot in your CIC that would cover Combox functions. Can you post a picture of your E-Sys screen showing all your ECU's? Just the module names for now, no CAFD data.
Ok will do.
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Part numbers for radio professional headunit, difference only being in the option codes listed:

No hands free or usb or combox: 65 12 9 270 369
6NH (BT+usb, no combox): 65 12 9 270 370
6NK/NL (combox media/telematics): 65 12 9 270 369

It looks like if combox is present then either the hardware for bt/usb doesn't exist within the headunit or it's software disabled.
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What function are we looking for in HU_CIC CAFD to change VIN to activate Browser?
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      09-23-2012, 09:42 AM   #871
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On F30's with 6NK/NL, standalone 6VC combox still exists. The part numbers for the headunits are different for cars with 6NH & 6NK/NL, presumably w/6NH the BT & usb functions are built into the headunit & for 6NH/NK, either it's disabled & handed over to the combox or it lacks the BT & usb hardware (cos it has combox).
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Part numbers for radio professional headunit, difference only being in the option codes listed:

No hands free or usb or combox: 65 12 9 270 369
6NH (BT+usb, no combox): 65 12 9 270 370
6NK/NL (combox media/telematics): 65 12 9 270 369

It looks like if combox is present then either the hardware for bt/usb doesn't exist within the headunit or it's software disabled.
Are you positive that standalone 6VC is still an option on the F30?

On the new 2013 F10's, with the upgraded Navigation system, HU_CIC became HU_NBT, and a car ordered with 6NL has no separate options for 6VC Combox, 6FL USB Port, or 639 BMW Assist. Looking at the ECU's in E-Sys, there are also no more separate CMB_MEDIA or CMB_ECALL modules.

Also, when I look at the F30 ordering guide, I do not see 6VC listed as an option:

http://www.f30post.com/forums/attach...0&d=1321578669

Can someone with an F30 and Option 6NK or 6NL provide their short VIN so I can check the installed option codes?

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What function are we looking for in HU_CIC CAFD to change VIN to activate Browser?
There are a few functions, but primarily SIM_ENABLED_MB and TELEMATIK_VIN.
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Are you positive that standalone 6VC is still an option on the F30?

On the new 2013 F10's, with the upgraded Navigation system, HU_CIC became HU_NBT, and a car ordered with 6NL has no separate options for 6VC Combox, 6FL USB Port, or 639 BMW Assist. Looking at the ECU's in E-Sys, there are also no more separate CMB_MEDIA or CMB_ECALL modules.

Also, when I look at the F30 ordering guide, I do not see 6VC listed as an option:

http://www.f30post.com/forums/attach...0&d=1321578669

Can someone with an F30 and Option 6NK or 6NL provide their short VIN so I can check the installed option codes?
100% positive. Our cars here have 6NK & the code 6VC doesn't appear at all on the build sheet, yet the combox media resides under the boot floor.
Part number for F30 combox media is 84 10 9 257 150, for combox telematics it's 84 10 9 257 151.
For the updated nav on the F31 (only F3x version currently fitted with new nav pro), combox telematics doesn't exist, but for cars w/o nav combox media still exist if enhanced bt is on the spec.
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Can someone with an F30 and Option 6NK or 6NL provide their short VIN so I can check the installed option codes?
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100% positive. Our cars here have 6NK & the code 6VC doesn't appear at all on the build sheet, yet the combox media resides under the boot floor.
Part number for F30 combox media is 84 10 9 257 150, for combox telematics it's 84 10 9 257 151.
For the updated nav on the F31 (only F3x version currently fitted with new nav pro), combox telematics doesn't exist, but for cars w/o nav combox media still exist if enhanced bt is on the spec.
Thanks for confirming this. Interesting, and bizarre. I don't get why if it is physically present, it has been removed as an Option code.

What do you see in E-Sys in this case? Do you still see CMB_MEDIA module or not?
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Thanks. No 6VC listed, which is not a surprise considering Clarence's explanation above about the Combox being physically present on the car but not on the build sheet.

Can you post an unexpanded image of your SVT from E-Sys showing all ECU's listed (No CAFD info or it won't fit in a single image)?
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Anyone here have an F30 with SLI (Speed Limit Info; Options 8TH and 8TD)?
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Thanks for confirming this. Interesting, and bizarre. I don't get why if it is physically present, it has been removed as an Option code.

What do you see in E-Sys in this case? Do you still see CMB_MEDIA module or not?
Sorry, can't help u as my car is still at Durban port.
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S563A LICHTPAKET Light package
S575A ZUSAETZLICHE 12-V-STECKDOSEN Supplementary 12V sockets
S609A NAVIGATIONSSYSTEM PROFESSIONAL Navigation system Professional
S615A ERWEITERTE BMW ONLINE INFORMATION Expanded BMW Online Information
S676A HIFI LAUTSPRECHERSYSTEM HiFi speaker system
S693A SATELLITENTUNER VORBEREITUNG Preparation BMW satellite radio
S697A AREA-CODE 1 Area-Code 1 for DVD
S6AAA BMW TELESERVICES BMW TeleServices
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S6UHA TRAFFIC INFORMATION Traffic Information
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What do you want me to check for?
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I have this..
S4MRA INTERIEURLEISTEN ALUMINIUM HEXAGON Interior strips, aluminum hexagon
S521A REGENSENSOR Rain sensor
S534A KLIMAAUTOMATIK Automatic air conditioning
S563A LICHTPAKET Light package
S575A ZUSAETZLICHE 12-V-STECKDOSEN Supplementary 12V sockets
S609A NAVIGATIONSSYSTEM PROFESSIONAL Navigation system Professional
S615A ERWEITERTE BMW ONLINE INFORMATION Expanded BMW Online Information
S676A HIFI LAUTSPRECHERSYSTEM HiFi speaker system
S693A SATELLITENTUNER VORBEREITUNG Preparation BMW satellite radio
S697A AREA-CODE 1 Area-Code 1 for DVD
S6AAA BMW TELESERVICES BMW TeleServices
S6ABA STEUERUNG TELESERVICES Control for Teleservices
S6NLA ANBIND.BLUETOOTH-U.USB-GERAETE INKL Connection Bluetooth + USB devices incl.
S6UHA TRAFFIC INFORMATION Traffic Information
S6VAA CIC ZUSTEUERUNG CIC-Zusteuerung

What do you want me to check for?
Thanks, but nothing at this point. The question was do cars with 6NL have a Combox, and it seems the answer is yes, although it no longer appears as a separate 6VC option on the build sheet.
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