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      11-05-2012, 04:35 PM   #1
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Leaked: F30 and F31 3 Series diesel models coming to N.A. in 2013
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BMW announced over the summer that the US would be getting new turbo diesel engines (a 180HP 4-Cylinder and 255HP 6-Cylinder), and now we see that BMW is planning 6 new diesel models for the NA market in 2013 and 2014.

The slide you see below was reportedly taken during a BMWNA meeting and it reveals the upcoming diesel model lineup and schedule:

• F30 3 Series sedan diesel - first half 2013
• F31 3 Series touring - second half 2013
• F10 5 Series diesel - third quarter 2013
• X5d diesel - end of 2013
• 7 Series diesel - first half 2014
• X3d diesel - first half 2014

No info yet on which models may receive what engines, but the 4-cylinder mentioned above may see duty in models labeled 20d or 25d; and the 6-cylinder may power models labeled 28d, 30d or 35d, as well as their counterparts in the xDrive models. No matter the nomenclature, this is wonderful news for the BMW's NA customers!

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      11-05-2012, 04:47 PM   #2
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Good news, you get to try out the best F30.....330D
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Thats exciting. I like what Im reading, they didn't give up on the diesel program in the U.S even after the 335d was not very successful. It was very expensive IMO. Hopefully with the 4 cylinder and lower price it can do better and sustain North American customer base.
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Do the BMW 4 cylinder diesels have an auxiliary cabin heater? It gets pretty cold up here in Canada. I'm worried that I would freeze all winter. Even worse, I'm worried my gf will freeze all winter!

My 328i 6 cylinder gets nice and warm pretty quickly.
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Whats so good about diesel engines? Cheaper gas(diesel)? Other then stronger towing capacity.
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Do the BMW 4 cylinder diesels have an auxiliary cabin heater? It gets pretty cold up here in Canada. I'm worried that I would freeze all winter. Even worse, I'm worried my gf will freeze all winter!

My 328i 6 cylinder gets nice and warm pretty quickly.
This is still always a problem with diesel and very cold temperatures. if you've got sub-zero temps for sustained periods then I'd say diesel isn't for you

Otherwise ... you fine folks over the pond will finally be able to buy the 3 series flagship
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Whats so good about diesel engines? Cheaper gas(diesel)? Other then stronger towing capacity.
In the US, gasoline is less $ than diesel in most places in the country. This is due to the low sulfur diesel requirements imposed a few years back. However, diesel motors typically get better mileage.
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In the US, gasoline is less $ than diesel in most places in the country. This is due to the low sulfur diesel requirements imposed a few years back. However, diesel motors typically get better mileage.
Isnt diesel cheaper then gasoline( like premium gas) in north america? Diesel is what trucks use right?

EDIT wow diesel is more expensive, before i remember see like 1.20per litre and 87 octane was like 1.30 or soemthing
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Strange that an X5d would be coming to the E70, considering the F15 replacement is due soon. MY2014?
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Strange that an X5d would be coming to the E70, considering the F15 replacement is due soon. MY2014?
Could be referring to the next X5 (F15).
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Could be referring to the next X5 (F15).
Hope so - I'm about 60% sure the F15's going to replace my Acura MDX about next year this time (assuming it's out by then) - going to battle with the updated 2014 MDX (assuming Acura doesn't kill the SH-AWD which they're rumored to do - if so no dice)

If BMW sells the F15 here in a diesel - that'll finish the argument for me - where do I sign
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Hmm... F31 x-drive 6cyl diesel 6MT?
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Isnt diesel cheaper then gasoline( like premium gas) in north america? Diesel is what trucks use right?

EDIT wow diesel is more expensive, before i remember see like 1.20per litre and 87 octane was like 1.30 or soemthing
Well, personally in NYC, as you know Premium gas is often 15-40 cents extra per gallon than Regular, most gas stations here that offer Diesel, which is not many, charges about 10 cents over Premium, but I guess 50/60 MPG City/HWY evens that out.. nice, but not for me.
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Could be referring to the next X5 (F15).
That's right.
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This is still always a problem with diesel and very cold temperatures. if you've got sub-zero temps for sustained periods then I'd say diesel isn't for you

Otherwise ... you fine folks over the pond will finally be able to buy the 3 series flagship
I've never heard of this, why aren't diesels good in really cold temps?

In my area diesel is approx. .10 - .15 cents more than premium. But, considering the better fuel economy and tons of torque, I think it's worth the extra cost.
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X5 diesel already in the US lineup.
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I've never heard of this, why aren't diesels good in really cold temps?
Diesel freezes and goes lumpy in really cold weather and so it literally won't run. We're not talking a "cold day" but arctic circle temps. It's a well known phenomenon up north Nowhere in Britain is it ever a serious problem but the guy that asked was in Canadaland and it gets really cold there

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That chart is referring to the next generation X5 (F15)
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Diesel freezes and goes lumpy in really cold weather and so it literally won't run. We're not talking a "cold day" but arctic circle temps. It's a well known phenomenon up north Nowhere in Britain is it ever a serious problem but the guy that asked was in Canadaland and it gets really cold there

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Good info, thanks!
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It sounds like there's no guarantee of getting the 330D, they may save the 3.0 for the bigger vehicles and go with the 320D in the US to focus on the fuel efficiency.

F31 320D would be a pretty nice all around daily that's for sure. Torque FTW.
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Freezing diesel used to be a problem around here (Minnesota), but these days they produce a winter blend that doesn't seem to freeze. I had a Touareg TDI for a couple of years and never had a problem.
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I'd like to know when exactly 2nd half of 2013 is. I have a trip already planned and would love to be able to pick up a Touring while there.
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