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      11-12-2012, 12:19 AM   #111
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Judging by the bitching, whining and chest bashing we've had about the tree-hugging and terribly inconvenient start-stop system, I can't see many takers for an active hybrid. At least not your side of the pond

Although, as a fan of ASS, Id still never buy a hybrid because they're a scurge on society with their lithium batteries, high capital cost and poor fuel economy compared to a quality diesel engine. Oh, and they give off a pious odour ...
I agree. Im also a fan of ASS. hehe
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I love the Hybrid because it's faster Although it's proven time and time again that hybrids cause more environmental problems than they solve, I would still buy one because it's uber fast
Psshhh. Faster? You gotta be kidding me. Try lugging that thing around on a track or any windy roads whatsoever. Unless you only drive straight that is a ridiculous comment.
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6 feet of water in the middle of the street. 7 in my house.I will enjoy the car but it doesnt have the raw vicious power of an e90 n54 engine.
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      11-12-2012, 09:23 AM   #114
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^^^ Sorry to hear about that mess.

Hope you'll share some more thoughts on your new car. I drove a Luxury line, as well. Felt good, but I'm looking for a bit more sportiness via the Dynamic Handling Package.

You're right, it doesn't feel "raw" like an N54. But a LOT of torque!
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6 feet of water in the middle of the street. 7 in my house.I will enjoy the car but it doesnt have the raw vicious power of an e90 n54 engine.
That does suck. Hope you enjoy the new ride just as much. Its different but itll grow on you.
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      11-14-2012, 11:35 PM   #116
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...thats the part I haven't been able to verify yet...whether adding Adaptive M gives you the lower ride height...the only thing I've seen is that M-Sport and Sport Line do not give you lower ride height (as they do in non-AH3)...
on the hybrid 3 with sport line or M sport pkg, you do not get the sport suspension.
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I just ordered my Hybrid 3 yesterday. I ordered a Alpine white with Black leather and the Aluminum trim. M sport, M dynamic susp, sport auto, perm pkg and HK sound. Goes into production in week 48. Hopefully i can get it before the end of the year. I am also thinking of changing the interior to the coral red which was my original choice.

Today I also added the heated steering wheel and the lane departure warning w/ forward collision warning. thanks to the above post's pointing that out.
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on the hybrid 3 with sport line or M sport pkg, you do not get the sport suspension.
Sure looks to me like you get the sports suspension with the Sports and MSport pkg.

http://www.bmwusa.com/standard/conte...1334&lineid=51
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I just ordered my Hybrid 3 yesterday. I ordered a Alpine white with Black leather and the Aluminum trim. M sport, M dynamic susp, sport auto, perm pkg and HK sound. Goes into production in week 48. Hopefully i can get it before the end of the year. I am also thinking of changing the interior to the coral red which was my original choice.
If you are thinking of changing interior color you ought to do it first thing tomorrow. Make sure dealer keys into system ASAP. You are likely already at 112 status and the system may reject an interior color change at this point. We are nearing the end of PW46. Your car will go into 150 status anytime now.
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      11-15-2012, 08:35 AM   #120
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Just as a quick reminder, for those that just ordered the AH3, or are considering it:

There are a few options that are free on a AH3. The heated steering wheel (even with M-sport) is N/C. Also, Lane Departure Warning/Forward Collision Warning (5AD) and Speed Limit Info (8TH) are both N/C options. You have to order these separately, not part of Driver Assistance Plus package. The $0 charge for these shows up both on Build Your Own BMW site, as well as on my Vehicle Inquiry Report. That's a $700 savings.
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Just as a quick reminder, for those that just ordered the AH3, or are considering it:

There are a few options that are free on a AH3. The heated steering wheel (even with M-sport) is N/C. Also, Lane Departure Warning/Forward Collision Warning (5AD) and Speed Limit Info (8TH) are both N/C options. You have to order these separately, not part of Driver Assistance Plus package. The $0 charge for these shows up both on Build Your Own BMW site, as well as on my Vehicle Inquiry Report. That's a $700 savings.
Just to be clear, Speed Limit Info for N/C is ONLY available if you order Nav or Tech package AND Driver Assistance Package. Basically, you order Nav and Driver Assistance package and you can add the two options that make up the Drivers Assistance Plus package for N/C. Saving you $700. Nice, but you've got to spend $4K-$5K to save $700.

If you are not in the market for the Driver Assistance package or Nav/Tech then the only N/C options you are eligible for are Heated steering wheel and lane departure warning.

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Just to be clear, Speed Limit Info for N/C is ONLY available if you order Nav or Tech package AND Driver Assistance Package. Basically, you order Nav and Driver Assistance package and you can add the two options that make up the Drivers Assistance Plus package for N/C. Saving you $700. Nice, but you've got to spend $4K-$5K to save $700.

If you are not in the market for the Driver Assistance package or Nav/Tech then the only N/C option you are eligible for is Heated steering wheel.
Good to know, and I appreciate the clarification.

I always assume anyone considering a $50K car is gonna spring for the Nav (especially the updated one!) option. And Driver Assistance Package is a no-brainer for someone like me. After 7 years, my daily driver Accord has so many nicks, scrapes and bumps from getting too close to objects while backing/parking. I hope to avoid all of those with this new car, via all the cameras.
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Oh, I made an error and am correcting now. Its only the speed limit info that requires Nav/Driver Assist packages. You can still get heated steering wheel and lane departure warning for N/C without Nav/Driver assistance according to the BMWUSA car configurator.

Based on the lane departure warning description, I think this is standard in all F30's "....by sending out a mild vibration through the steering wheel...."
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Sure looks to me like you get the sports suspension with the Sports and MSport pkg.

http://www.bmwusa.com/standard/conte...1334&lineid=51
I think that's an error for the AH3...when you select the DHP you can see the car drop slightly in the configuration but that could be a error too for all I know...I think the AH3 order guide would be the only certain way to know the details but the last 2013 guide didn't show the AH3...
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I think you need Nav to get get Speed Limit Info 8TH, so it can be displayed in the HUD. Obviously there is a camera mounted by the rear-view mirror to capture this. Lane Departure Warning uses the cameras from the Driver Assistance Package, so I actually think your first assessment was more accurate?

If you want to see some real freebies, check out cars like the 535i GT and 550i GT. For 2013, those cars get a few Nav/Value package, and big power bump, respectively. Made the non-GT 5er owners get pretty peeved
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I think that's an error for the AH3...when you select the DHP you can see the car drop slightly in the configuration but that could be a error too for all I know...I think the AH3 order guide would be the only certain way to know the details but the last 2013 guide didn't show the AH3...
I'm pretty sure you get the Sports Suspension when you order DHP.
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I think that's an error for the AH3...when you select the DHP you can see the car drop slightly in the configuration but that could be a error too for all I know...I think the AH3 order guide would be the only certain way to know the details but the last 2013 guide didn't show the AH3...
I'll check on the order guide when i get into work later today..
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Sure looks to me like you get the sports suspension with the Sports and MSport pkg.

http://www.bmwusa.com/standard/conte...1334&lineid=51
I just pulled up the 2013 BMW order guide and it does not list sport suspension as being a part of it on the AH3. I know it does have it listed on BMWUSA though. Hmm!!
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I think you need Nav to get get Speed Limit Info 8TH, so it can be displayed in the HUD. Obviously there is a camera mounted by the rear-view mirror to capture this. Lane Departure Warning uses the cameras from the Driver Assistance Package, so I actually think your first assessment was more accurate?

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As of today (right now) The BMWUSA configurator allows you to select Lane Departure Warning without Driver Assistance/Tech/Nav. Obviously the configurator could have an error (as if we haven't seen that before ).

I hear what you're saying about the cameras and you very well could be correct.
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As of today (right now) The BMWUSA configurator allows you to select Lane Departure Warning without Driver Assistance/Tech/Nav. Obviously the configurator could have an error (as if we haven't seen that before ).

I hear what you're saying about the cameras and you very well could be correct.
when I got into work today we pulled up ordered AH3 and added the heated steering wheel and lane departure warning and there was no additional charge for either otion on the final buildsheet. It is true.
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when I got into work today we pulled up ordered AH3 and added the heated steering wheel and lane departure warning and there was no additional charge for either otion on the final buildsheet. It is true.
You were able to order lane departure warning without Driver Assistance Package?
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You were able to order lane departure warning without Driver Assistance Package?
Correct..
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