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      09-29-2012, 03:47 AM   #23
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With AT in the E90, the 6 spd, I can easily come to a complete stop very smoothly, never a problem. With my 335i AT I can't make a smooth complete stop if my life depended on it. ...

and they gave me an F30 328i AT. I can make a smoother complete stop in the 328i, but not as smooth as the E90. There is still at times a bit of 'jerk' motion on the complete stop.
From new my 328i (Sport Auto) was a pig to try and stop smoothly. However, with nearly 4k on the clock and things starting to bed down I can now do graceful gradual stops with it being barely noticeable when the vehicle finally comes to rest. Could be that it's dependent on the vehicle having a few miles on it plus being used to how that particular car does it?
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      09-30-2012, 09:44 PM   #24
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From new my 328i (Sport Auto) was a pig to try and stop smoothly. However, with nearly 4k on the clock and things starting to bed down I can now do graceful gradual stops with it being barely noticeable when the vehicle finally comes to rest. Could be that it's dependent on the vehicle having a few miles on it plus being used to how that particular car does it?
Thanks. Good to know it may smooth out.
I've only got about 1400 miles right now. Seems the brake pads have quite a bite too. I've read that the Msport comes with a higher friction pad compared to non Msport brakes. Maybe that's part of it too.
But still, even doing my best to modulate the brake force, if I let up too much that car then wants to accelerate. If I modulate for more force it seems to bite too much against the forward force.
It feels like I'm fighting too much torque even at idle engine speeds.
I guess I could ask them to try and tune down the idle speed by about 200rpm and see if that helps, but I don't know if they can do that.
The service writer and tech test drove it, but of course they thought it was "normal" even though they both admitted that it did stop with too much of a "jerk" motion. When it stops, literally the front end compresses noticeably as if I were coming to a very hard stop from high speed, even though I may be coasting to a stop at 5mph. Not very BMW like at all.
Makes me miss the MT even more, even though I LOVE the sport AT.
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      11-11-2012, 10:12 AM   #25
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My friend traded in his 2009 E90 328, for a F30 sport line 328. All along, he told me that he didn't like the beak, and how the car felt. We both went and test drove the sportline F30, and neither of us was impressed with the way the car felt compared to our E90s. When I asked him what made him change his mind, he said I just want to have the newest model, even though I'm not really feeling the F30. He told me that he really misses the heavy, tight feel of his E90. I told him hopefully he gets use to the F30. Has anyone switched to the newer model, just because it's new and regret their decision. As for me, I'm keeping my E90.

I just traded my 2008 E90 for an 2013 F30 M-Sport. I wasn't sold on the front of the F30, so I decided to lease it short term. (BTW, there are some pretty good deals out there.) I'm hoping that BMW will make the front look better on the LCI model. If I put the car in M-Sport mode, the car feels much more like my old E90 w/ sport package but the new car is much more nimble and quick. The amount of torque of this four-cylinder engine is impressive, to say the least.

Personally, I did not like the "heaviness" of the E90. Feeling the road was a "love-hate" relationship. It was grounded and great to drive on smooth roads. On rough roads, it was a creaky, rattling disaster. Unfortunately, the roads where I live are not well paved, so driving my E90 was annoying.

So far, I really like my new F30. I just wish the ASS function wasn't so jerky.
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      11-11-2012, 11:07 AM   #26
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Well after driving the faster and more nimble F30, I can't blame him for thinking his E90 is heavy and tight. But I don't see that as a bad thing at all.
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      11-11-2012, 11:45 AM   #27
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Yes, his 2009 E90 had the sport package. I agree that there is less bite on the brake pedals. I do like the F30s interior. I thought BMW's were know for that tight, heavy, planted on the road feel.
Really miss the E90 brakes. They were the best ever. I don't care what they say about the low rolling resistance tires. The F30 brakes suck in comparison to the E90, IMHO.
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      11-11-2012, 12:21 PM   #28
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Actually most f30 owners got one just because they wanted the newest model, otherwise everyone would just get an e92 335i
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      11-11-2012, 01:11 PM   #29
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the e90s front is hideous compared to the F30s front. Thats enough for an upgrade to the F30.
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I wouldnt have gotten my f30 if there wasnt an Msport option as I feel the other lines bodys look ugly and plain. The sport line isnt too bad but takes a few mods to make it to my taste. Cosmetics aside I bought mine because of the awesome mpg.

During my whole european delivery I had 5 people in the car and a trunk full of luggage drove about 1500 miles and averaged 27 mpg which blew my mind. With those kind of numbers I could do 40+ easy or my commute to work. First new car and I love every part of it.

At the end of the day its up to each individual to decide if its what they really wanted. I don't let other peoples judgements of the car sway my decision. Use the car if you like it awesome if you have second thoughts then its not for you find something that fits you and not something that you think will fit for everyone else.
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the e90s front is hideous compared to the F30s front. Thats enough for an upgrade to the F30.
I really hated the rear of e90... f30 is a huge upgrade
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I really hated the rear of e90... f30 is a huge upgrade
Yeah, the E90 rear was my least favorite part as well. Especially when they did the LCI, they tried to cram some of the LED "light bars" into a tail light housing that wasn't really designed in mind for them. Worked OK on the E92. But the E90 just looks like they were trying to jam a square peg in a round hole.
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      11-11-2012, 03:33 PM   #33
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I think the msport front looks much nicer. I heard the F30 brakes are also softer. I will say the F30 absorbs bumps much smoother. Since my friend picked up his F30, he hasn't really embraced it. He is now talking about turning it in next summer, and will look into a 2013 E92 hoping he can get a good deal.
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      11-14-2012, 09:40 AM   #34
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I have an odd quibble with the f30. I know that I will upgrade, but I'm oddly torn on whether it will be a touring, coupe, or gran coupe.

Despite all the awesome reasons to love the f31, I get annoyed that BMW didn't put LED tails in it so they will have something for the LCI. It's 2012...I think LEDs should be standard as they are on my e92 LCI.

Minor point I know but.....

The more major issue is I will need some time to adjust to the new steering. Not saying its bad. Just got too used to the heft on my e92.
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      11-18-2012, 09:50 PM   #35
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I see the the f32 is already in production. I dont know what that black piece on the front side, near the wheel well is. I hope it's not a cheap piece of plastic that serves no purpose. Otherwise, I like the way it looks so far. I hope the front looks nice.
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      11-22-2012, 02:16 AM   #36
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I have an odd quibble with the f30. I know that I will upgrade, but I'm oddly torn on whether it will be a touring, coupe, or gran coupe.

Despite all the awesome reasons to love the f31, I get annoyed that BMW didn't put LED tails in it so they will have something for the LCI. It's 2012...I think LEDs should be standard as they are on my e92 LCI.

Minor point I know but.....

The more major issue is I will need some time to adjust to the new steering. Not saying its bad. Just got too used to the heft on my e92.
it's not so silly - the lack of LEDs has made me put off my F30 purchase until the LCI - its ridiculous in 2012 the cars lack them..
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I came out of two E90's and picked up my 2013 F30 in August. The car is beautiful and a pure joy to drive. IMHO I think it's a stepup from the E90.
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      11-28-2012, 09:49 AM   #38
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it's not so silly - the lack of LEDs has made me put off my F30 purchase until the LCI - its ridiculous in 2012 the cars lack them..
I'm glad I'm not the only one. BMW should find better reasons to encourage its customers to upgrade to the LCI when the time comes around. After all, the f30 tails are SO similar to the F10's that they are hard to differentiate....till that antiquated brake light fires up.
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