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      11-13-2012, 04:40 PM   #45
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If it's a US spec car you can't get the Adaptive M suspension separately. You have to get the Dynamic Handling Package which includes the Variable Sport Steering.

And it's "gay"? Seriously? What are you, 13 years old?
14 actually And maybe you batties over the pond use gay in a different vernacular to us pure-breds over the pond
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      11-13-2012, 05:27 PM   #46
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I thought it was fairly well established that VSS does nothing to the steering that servotronic doesn't do in terms of "feel" and weight. And since servotronic is standard on nearly every model then VSS becomes irrelevant and a bit of a gay option for men to choose since it's just to help women park is all - nothing to do with driving at normal speeds. I wonder how many men would have chosen it if they'd known it was just a faster steering rack over 100* of lock to help parking?
There is no other option for an F30, you get the "servotronic" steering. VSS actually makes the steering tighter than the standard setup. It's likely just software. So the VSS is an option you want if you like the steering feel of the E9x as it gives the same tightness in Sport mode and feels considerably better than the standard setup.

I won't even comment on your other ramblings.
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      11-14-2012, 05:39 AM   #47
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Like I said: there is a lot of misinformation on this forum and you just added to it Repeating something that is incorrect does not make it any less wrong.

Variable Sport Steering DOES NOT MAKE THE STEERING STIFFER and is identical to the Servotronic steering in normal driving conditions. The VSS is not speed dependant and makes no difference to comfort or sport modes: that is a Servotronic steering function. Variable Sport Steering is used for parking and tight manoeuvring. Thatisall. It is simply a faster rack over one hundred degrees of steering lock. That is the only way it is different from Servotronic.

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Servotronic adapts the power steering support to the current speed and provides superior comfort by reducing the required steering force.
That is your changing steering weight dependant on speed and mode.

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Variable Sport Steering, including Servotronic and Sport+ mode, reduces the steering wheel movement required to achieve a particular tight steering angle. This enhances comfort when parking and manoeuvring, as well as sporting agility in tight corners.
That "particular tight steering angle" happens to be anything over 100 degrees.

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      11-14-2012, 07:19 AM   #48
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Like I said: there is a lot of misinformation on this forum and you just added to it Repeating something that is incorrect does not make it any less wrong.

Variable Sport Steering DOES NOT MAKE THE STEERING STIFFER and is identical to the Servotronic steering in normal driving conditions. The VSS is not speed dependant and makes no difference to comfort or sport modes: that is a Servotronic steering function. Variable Sport Steering is used for parking and tight manoeuvring. Thatisall. It is simply a faster rack over one hundred degrees of steering lock. That is the only way it is different from Servotronic.


That is your changing steering weight dependant on speed and mode.


That "particular tight steering angle" happens to be anything over 100 degrees.

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Thatīs EXACTLY how it is. I only got the adaptive M susp. never opted for the package cause the servotronic made VSS obsolete.
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