Where exactly was your "German-made"car built?

DarkTrigger · 11-14-2012, 11:34 PM

If I could do it over again, I'd go with a SA build. So many damn rattles with my Munch build. Also, when I first received it, I had to fix the gasket that went over the headliner as it was not installed properly!!

JUSKIDN · 11-14-2012, 11:51 PM

Wow I thought they were all from the factory in Munich

Alpine F31 · 11-15-2012, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkTrigger

If I could do it over again, I'd go with a SA build. So many damn rattles with my Munch build. Also, when I first received it, I had to fix the gasket that went over the headliner as it was not installed properly!!

I wonder if it's like American assembly plants where cars are built "better" on different days of the week. My 328i M Sport is a Munich Build (it says so right on the window sticker and has an F in the 11th place in the VIN) and it has been nothing but stellar since day one. I did have the loose taillight issue but the dealer fixed it without incident.

Sorry to hear about your rattles...

Messer-schmitt · 11-15-2012, 12:46 AM

Engine and Transmission = Munich. Everything else, South Africa. Right off the dealers lot the washer system blew it's endcap off twice rendering the washers useless, the front tow hook cover was incorrectly installed and would not stay closed, and the headlights are not aligned with one another. The local BMW dealer fixed the first two, but I forgot to report the last one. All-in-all, a very nicely made automobile.

By the way, not that it's a competition, but when I got it, it had 131 miles, now 2 months later it has 5,500 miles! Glad I didn't lease!

clarence · 11-15-2012, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Messer-schmitt

Right off the dealers lot the washer system blew it's endcap off twice rendering the washers useless, the front tow hook cover was incorrectly installed and would not stay closed, and the headlights are not aligned with one another. The local BMW dealer fixed the first two, but I forgot to report the last one. All-in-all, a very nicely made automobile.

The last 2 problems are due to poor preparation before handing the car over to u.
The cars are shipped with the tow hook cover in ur glovebox (or in a small plastic bag hanging on the rearview mirror), & headlight alignment is part of PDI process.

claykin · 11-15-2012, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by clarence

headlight alignment is part of PDI process.

Headlight alignment is done at factory. Should be no need to readjust at dealer.

Messer-schmitt · 11-15-2012, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by claykin

Headlight alignment is done at factory. Should be no need to readjust at dealer.

Since I can't (haven't figured out how to do it) fix it myself, I guess I'll just live with it until my first service appointment and report it then. Life was so much easier with my 7 "do it yourself" Jeeps. Ha!

DarkTrigger · 11-15-2012, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Alpine F31

I wonder if it's like American assembly plants where cars are built "better" on different days of the week. My 328i M Sport is a Munich Build (it says so right on the window sticker and has an F in the 11th place in the VIN) and it has been nothing but stellar since day one. I did have the loose taillight issue but the dealer fixed it without incident.

Sorry to hear about your rattles...

I think mine was an Oktoberfest car. Seriously, those of us that had it built late Sept./early Oct. have these issues......

I got the behind the dash rattle, and something in both B pillars rattles. They said they could fix it, but I just gotta make a 2 day appointment. It's ok, but gosh, just a pain.

clarence · 11-15-2012, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by claykin

Headlight alignment is done at factory. Should be no need to readjust at dealer.

Yes, but the beam is checked again during PDI.

emtrey · 11-15-2012, 10:11 AM

munich..not a single issue 2200 miles 3.5 months

CoolDude196 · 11-15-2012, 11:56 AM

it also says on my b pillar, at the bottom...

munich, adds to the specialness personally

you should do a poll

Ron Scott · 11-15-2012, 12:59 PM

Not understanding how/why Munich would be nice to have...?

Kankles · 11-15-2012, 01:23 PM

335 M Sport, 11th digit=F, Munchen

AZ330FZL · 11-15-2012, 01:42 PM

335i sport line 11th digit is an N, looks like South Africa build for me.

Seagull · 11-15-2012, 04:37 PM

335i M-Sport. Like in school, F for me!

shoptb · 11-16-2012, 11:41 AM

Munich here

S-Dot · 11-16-2012, 01:08 PM

F - München
328i xDrive

ErastFandorin · 11-16-2012, 10:10 PM

Built in May 2012. Assembled in Munich!

To be honest I really don't think the plant your car was assembled in makes any difference to the overall quality. Ultimately all BMW factories will adhere to the same guidelines and quality control processes.
Sure, I have to admit I do like the fact that my car was built in Munich but its more a notion of sentimentality, than I think it is some how 'better' than cars built else where.

Yes people have said they have had cars arrive with faults and they think this is down to which plant the car was assembled in. But in reality these faults are simply errors that could happen in any other plant.
One might be pleased their car was built in the same plant as the M cars are, and therefor think a higher level of attention was paid to its assembly. However M cars arriving with problems is not completely unheard of is it? Demonstrating that mistakes can happen even in the supposedly 'superior' plants.

The bottom line is that we all love our BMW's! I certainly love my F30!

boltjames · 11-16-2012, 11:27 PM

Munich.

Wouldn't have accepted delivery if it were assembled anywhere else.

BJ

snowghost · 11-17-2012, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Orient330iNYC

here's a more current breakdown:
A: Munich
B: Dingolfing
C: Dingolfing
D: Dingolfing
E: Regensburg
F: Munich
G: Dingolfing
H: Rosslyn (SA)
J: Regensburg
K: Munich
L: Spartanburg
M: Spartanburg
N: Rosslyn (SA)
P: Regensburg
R: Toluka (Mexico)
S: Shenyang
T: Oxford
U: Goodwood
V: Leipzig
W: Graz
X: Berlin
Y: Berlin
Z: Berlin

Yeah mine is F and I specifically ordered from Munich. Sticker says:Final Assembly Point: Munich, Germany.

snowghost · 11-17-2012, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by claykin

Headlight alignment is done at factory. Should be no need to readjust at dealer.

Right, I took the Munich tour and saw a guy adjusting headlights.

claykin · 11-17-2012, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by snowghost

Yeah mine is F and I specifically ordered from Munich. Sticker says:Final Assembly Point: Munich, Germany.

You can order a Germany build car, but cannot specify which factory BMW will build car. Factory is unknown until VIN is assigned.

11-14-2012, 11:34 PM	#45
DarkTrigger Professional 32 Rep 977 Posts Drives: 335i MPPK Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: LB, SoCal iTrader: (0)	If I could do it over again, I'd go with a SA build. So many damn rattles with my Munch build. Also, when I first received it, I had to fix the gasket that went over the headliner as it was not installed properly!!
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11-14-2012, 11:51 PM	#46
JUSKIDN Lieutenant 34 Rep 581 Posts Drives: 2013 EBII 328i M Sport Join Date: May 2012 Location: Baton Rouge, LA iTrader: (0)	Wow I thought they were all from the factory in Munich __________________ It's not illegal. It's frowned upon, like masturbating on an airplane.
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11-15-2012, 12:46 AM	#48
Messer-schmitt Private 1 Rep 65 Posts Drives: 2012 BMW 328i Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Iowa iTrader: (0)	Engine and Transmission = Munich. Everything else, South Africa. Right off the dealers lot the washer system blew it's endcap off twice rendering the washers useless, the front tow hook cover was incorrectly installed and would not stay closed, and the headlights are not aligned with one another. The local BMW dealer fixed the first two, but I forgot to report the last one. All-in-all, a very nicely made automobile. By the way, not that it's a competition, but when I got it, it had 131 miles, now 2 months later it has 5,500 miles! Glad I didn't lease! __________________ '12 Jet Black 328i 6MT Sportline Originally Posted by JBasham Caddy ATS . . . finally, a decent rental car option.
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11-15-2012, 10:11 AM	#54
emtrey Captain 19 Rep 681 Posts Drives: 13 335 AW sport 06 Carrera S Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Midwest iTrader: (0)	munich..not a single issue 2200 miles 3.5 months
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11-15-2012, 11:56 AM	#55
CoolDude196 . 27 Rep 616 Posts Drives: f30 20d Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: England iTrader: (0)	it also says on my b pillar, at the bottom... munich, adds to the specialness personally you should do a poll __________________ AW Sport 20d, 2tb, 552, lc, 397 plus others
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11-15-2012, 12:59 PM	#56
Ron Scott Captain 61 Rep 631 Posts Drives: 2013 335 M Sport Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island iTrader: (0)	Not understanding how/why Munich would be nice to have...?
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11-15-2012, 01:23 PM	#57
Kankles Rear Admiral 275 Rep 941 Posts Drives: Bavarian Milk Wagon Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: € iTrader: (1) Garage List 2016 BMW M3 [0.00] 2002 BMW M3 [0.00]	335 M Sport, 11th digit=F, Munchen
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11-15-2012, 01:42 PM	#58
AZ330FZL First Lieutenant 24 Rep 314 Posts Drives: 2012 335i Sedan Sport Line Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Phoenix, AZ iTrader: (0) Garage List 2012 BMW 335i Sport ... [0.00]	335i sport line 11th digit is an N, looks like South Africa build for me.
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11-15-2012, 04:37 PM	#59
Seagull Major 169 Rep 1,046 Posts Drives: F87 M2, E84 X1 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	335i M-Sport. Like in school, F for me! __________________ Current: F87 M2 MT MPE, E84 PP SP LP Previous: F30 - 335i AT, E90 - 335xi MT, E90 - 330i MT, E46 - 330i MT
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11-16-2012, 11:41 AM	#60
shoptb Captain 46 Rep 894 Posts Drives: 13 328i MSport EBII 8A Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: C-Bus iTrader: (0)	Munich here __________________ Delivered! --> '15 F33 328xi, 8SA, Glacier Silver with Coral, 403M-19", ZMM, ZPP, ZTP, ZDA, ZDB, ZCW, ZDH, 4M5 Past --> '13 F30 328i, 8SA, EBII, ZMM, ZPP, ZTP, ZLP, ZDA, ZCW, ZDH, BMS Stage 1 Past ------> '08 E92 335xi, 6MT, DGM w SDL, ZPP, ZTP, ZLP
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11-16-2012, 01:08 PM	#61
S-Dot Private First Class 6 Rep 121 Posts Drives: 2013 328i xDrive Luxury Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: near Calgary iTrader: (0)	F - München 328i xDrive
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11-16-2012, 10:10 PM	#62
ErastFandorin New Member 0 Rep 10 Posts Drives: F30 328i Luxury Imperial Blue Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Built in May 2012. Assembled in Munich! To be honest I really don't think the plant your car was assembled in makes any difference to the overall quality. Ultimately all BMW factories will adhere to the same guidelines and quality control processes. Sure, I have to admit I do like the fact that my car was built in Munich but its more a notion of sentimentality, than I think it is some how 'better' than cars built else where. Yes people have said they have had cars arrive with faults and they think this is down to which plant the car was assembled in. But in reality these faults are simply errors that could happen in any other plant. One might be pleased their car was built in the same plant as the M cars are, and therefor think a higher level of attention was paid to its assembly. However M cars arriving with problems is not completely unheard of is it? Demonstrating that mistakes can happen even in the supposedly 'superior' plants. The bottom line is that we all love our BMW's! I certainly love my F30! __________________ Imperial Blue 328i Luxury with Xenon's, 19" 401's, Adaptive Suspension, Sport-Auto and Sun Protection Glass.
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11-16-2012, 11:27 PM	#63
boltjames Banned 10 Rep 533 Posts Drives: 2013 BMW 328i Luxury Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	Munich. Wouldn't have accepted delivery if it were assembled anywhere else. BJ
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