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      11-19-2012, 06:29 PM   #89
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I had a F11 530D Auto, then the CLS350 CDI and I much prefer the BMW engine/gearbox combination. I couldn't really fault the Merc, I had no reliability issues and it was a very relaxed cruiser just not 'sporty' at all. Then there was the flappy paddles which just did their own thing no matter what I selected.
Yeah, manual mode on a 7G+ is useless, it changes gear when it likes......point?
In fact the engine/gearbox combo in the F11 was about the only thing I did really like about it. I got rid of it after just 5 months. Part of that was because it was poverty spec with the business nav not professional, no xenons, no heated seats, and a really crap sound system. Will teach me for getting a car from stock.
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My alternative to the 330D was the E350CDi Coupe. Got to say the Merc engine is a belter, I would rate it equally as good as the 30D if not better. (Sorry!)

But the gearbox 7G Tronic Plus is very auto slushbox.....such a shame.

Another niggle was the reliability of the engine.....I know a Merc indy and he has seen some horror stories regarding the V6 diesel.
Got a C Class 350 CDI Sport Saloon. Yes, great engine, but it rattles like hell on acceleration from rest. Wake the dead. The gearbox had an update to reduce its hesitation and was much improved. Still, not as good as a 330d IMO.
Build of the c class seem way below that of the e?!
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      11-20-2012, 10:50 AM   #91
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Build of the c class seem way below that of the e?!
No. Superb build quality. Amazing fit and finish and not a single rattle. Very reliable. Brilliant dealer service.
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Having now had the opportunity to drive the F30 330d back to back over some proper twisty roads alongside my 328i impressions are -

Both are outstanding cars. Having driven the opposition (Audi / Merc) the F30 is a country mile ahead.

The diesel needs a little more coaxing to get its snout to the apex (wet roads), due to the greater weight up front but still very well balanced.

Ability to cover ground broadly the same although you can take the petrol by the scruff of the neck in a way that the diesel does not encourage quite so much.

Diesels performance driven by torque, petrols by revs, because of that you need to be more considered with the throttle in the diesel when exiting corners approaching the limits of grip as it has no lsd.

Brakes much the same, although you are aware the diesel is carrying more weight.

Petrol has a nimbleness about it that the diesel does not have. However, some people may prefer the slightly more "planted" gait of the diesel.

Conclusion is both are first class. Diesel possibly slightly better for motorway journeys, petrol for cross country. You'll choose based on your fuel preference but be delighted with either.
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I am being nosy.
How many BMWs have you driven in the last 3 weeks? I've so far counted 3. Have you driven the 335i?
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How many BMWs have you driven in the last 3 weeks? I've so far counted 3. Have you driven the 335i?
Nope not driven the 335i yet. Driven most of the other interesting ones though........over the last three months rather than weeks.

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Nope not driven the 335i yet. Driven most of the other interesting ones though........over the last three months rather than weeks.

Now I've become really inquisitive! Do you work for BMW? Come on, do tell ......
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No nothing to do with BMW..........honest!

Just a combination of being able to borrow them from BMW for weekends / friends / colleagues and family all obliging to let me have a go......

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No nothing to do with BMW..........honest!

Just a combination of being able to borrow them from BMW for weekends / friends / colleagues and family all obliging to let me have a go......

Lucky man. What fun.
A await your take on the 335i.
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No nothing to do with BMW..........honest!

Just a combination of being able to borrow them from BMW for weekends / friends / colleagues and family all obliging to let me have a go......

Are you the new Stig?
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