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      12-11-2012, 08:11 PM   #67
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BMW's lineup is becoming wayyyyyyy too convoluted.
Too many models that accomplish the same task.
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      12-11-2012, 08:22 PM   #68
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How does BMW plan to sell 4 door cars in the 1/2 series, the 3 series, the 4 series, the 5 series, the 6 series and the 7 series? All of them look like slightly larger versions of the series below, and I cant imagine the vehicles will be substantively different in any significant way. I have to ask myself, what's the point?
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Looks pretty good, but not markedly different from the F30. Seems like they should just make one sedan in this size. *shrug*
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Your guys are nuts, why is everyone moaning about more models? More models are good for everyone!

Niche's are where its at, and although it might cannibalize other series, its ok, they will still sell every one they make (except for the 3er and 5er GT, don't get me started on that crap)...

I don't see it as "diluting" I see it as "exclusifying." Lets just think about it... Say in the e90 body style that BMW sold, I have no idea, 1,000,000 units over its life. With all of the new f models coming out, maybe they will only sell 600,000 f30's, but now they will also sell 600,000 4er GC's. Sure they might share a lot of parts (news flash all BMW's share a lot of parts) but now they have overall increased sales, while still managing to come down in volume on each model making them less readily available. What does this do? This keeps initial sales prices high at the dealer, and then helps keep resale prices high throughout the life of the vehicle(s).

As I said in a previous post, bring me my e46 sized M2 GC soon please!
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Your guys are nuts, why is everyone moaning about more models? More models are good for everyone!

Niche's are where its at, and although it might cannibalize other series, its ok, they will still sell every one they make (except for the 3er and 5er GT, don't get me started on that crap)...

I don't see it as "diluting" I see it as "exclusifying." Lets just think about it... Say in the e90 body style that BMW sold, I have no idea, 1,000,000 units over its life. With all of the new f models coming out, maybe they will only sell 600,000 f30's, but now they will also sell 600,000 4er GC's. Sure they might share a lot of parts (news flash all BMW's share a lot of parts) but now they have overall increased sales, while still managing to come down in volume on each model making them less readily available. What does this do? This keeps initial sales prices high at the dealer, and then helps keep resale prices high throughout the life of the vehicle(s).

As I said in a previous post, bring me my e46 sized M2 GC soon please!
I think you and I might be the same person. I haven't found a compact 4 door RWD car to replace my ZHP yet. The M2 GC would be perfect.
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I am so confused. Will there be a 3 series coupe? An M3 sedan\coupe? An M4 coupe\grand coupe? Or will they make all of these cars?
So far, this is what it looks like:

3 Series with have the Sedan, Touring, GT and the M3 Sedan.

4 Series will have the Coupe, Gran Coupe, Cabrio, M4 Coupe, M4 Gran Coupe and M4 Cabrio.


Btw, the renders look amazing. I'm sticking with the coupe, but this looks really good too.
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So far, this is what it looks like:

3 Series with have the Sedan, Touring, GT and the M3 Sedan.

4 Series will have the Coupe, Gran Coupe, M4 Coupe and M4 Gran Coupe.
You forgot 4 series cabrio and M4 cabrio.
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      12-11-2012, 10:36 PM   #78
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Seriously BMW? Stop with all these different model CAR LINE UPS!!!

Keep the 3 as a four door, and the 4(which makes no sense) as a two door.

STOP MIXING IT UP. That means that just about every model 1,2,4,6 all have grand coupe's? Whats the POINT. Make one grand coupe. They're going overboard with this mode lineup. They're going to make to many models and slowly push away from the quality of each model and then the series will blend together! I really hope this doesn't hurt the great name of BMW and especially their Bmw M line.

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For those in CA, look at in and out burger. Keep it simple and stay very successful. I think BMW can keep the same success
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Seriously BMW? Stop with all these different model CAR LINE UPS!!!

Keep the 3 as a four door, and the 4(which makes no sense) as a two door.

STOP MIXING IT UP. That means that just about every model 1,2,4,6 all have grand coupe's? Whats the POINT. Make one grand coupe. They're going overboard with this mode lineup. They're going to make to many models and slowly push away from the quality of each model and then the series will blend together! I really hope this doesn't hurt the great name of BMW and especially their Bmw M line.

/ end rant.
For those in CA, look at in and out burger. Keep it simple and stay very successful. I think BMW can keep the same success
Will they be coming out with a 3er coupe and let the m3 stay alive?? Lol.
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So far, this is what it looks like:

3 Series with have the Sedan, Touring, GT and the M3 Sedan.

4 Series will have the Coupe, Gran Coupe, M4 Coupe and M4 Gran Coupe.
You forgot 4 series cabrio and M4 cabrio.

Oh yeah, forgot about those. I'll edit my post. Thanks for catching that
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I think you and I might be the same person. I haven't found a compact 4 door RWD car to replace my ZHP yet. The M2 GC would be perfect.
I've had my ZHP for nearly 7 years, I hate to say it, but I kinda hope the M2 GC is a 4-banger with about the same power to weight ratio as my ZHP. If it has more power, then I'll just be getting more tickets...

Between now and then, if something happens to my e46, I'll buy....... another e46... And when this hopeful e46 sized M2-GC comes about, I'll still be keeping my e46...
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Nice effort on the PS, but you can see the rear door line is way off. It looks way more dynamic in the spy pic.
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oh my gawd....BMW is in it to win it, and I'm with them awsome car...
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For those in CA, look at in and out burger. Keep it simple and stay very successful. I think BMW can keep the same success
There's no doubt BMW would remain successful but all this is to be even more successful. I'm interested to see how sales will differ with all these models. If the whole point is to attract more sales, but the 4-Series equals 3-Series coupes from the E92, what happens then?
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Too many options. It ll be interesting to see the sale numbers. And after few yrs used BMW market ll be interesting too.
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