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      09-28-2012, 04:39 AM   #23
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I'm going to buy E90 bolt (36 13 6 781 150 M12x1.5) to compare it with mine F30 (36 13 6 781 151 M14x1.25)
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      10-02-2012, 11:58 AM   #24
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Bolts are really different: F30 - Left, E90 - Right. IMHO the rims are incompatible...
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      10-02-2012, 01:15 PM   #25
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And what about the angle of the "cone" of the bolt? There can be free play of the rim...
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Bolts are really different: F30 - Left, E90 - Right. IMHO the rims are incompatible...
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Nice pic to show the differnet size of the M14x1.25 and M12x1.5 bolts.
At least the angle of the cone seems to be the same and the holes of the e90 wheels are large enough for the f30 bolts so I still think it should work.
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      10-02-2012, 03:29 PM   #26
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I tend to agree- the angles look the same
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      10-03-2012, 05:08 AM   #27
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I've measured it in Photoshop = 60 degrees. The same.
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      01-09-2013, 01:45 PM   #28
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397 whells will work on E90 / E91

hi all

iam pretty sure that 397 whells will work on E90 / E91

they are Et 34

My concern is about 400M the rear ones are ET 47 !!!!!

what do you think ??

Wheels: Wheel 1 Wheel 2
Wheel size 18x8.5 ET 37 18x8 ET 47
BackSpace 157 mm (6.2'') 161 mm (6.3'')
3 mm (0.1'') deeper.
Rim Lip 17 mm (0.7'') wider
Typical Weight ~ 28 lbs / 13 kg ~ 26 lbs / 12 kg
Tires: Tire 1 Tire 2
Tire size 255/40-18 225/45-18
Section width 255 mm (10'') 225 mm (8.9'')
Sidewall 102 mm (4'') 101 mm (4'')
Tire diameter 661 mm (26'') 659 mm (25.9'')
2 mm (0.3%) shorter.
Rim sizes 18x7.5 to 18x9.5 18x6.5 to 18x8.5
Circumference 2076 mm (81.7'') 2069 mm (81.5'')
Revs per mile 775.4 777.7
Speedometer Assuming that this is OEM tire and speedometer readings are correct >>> When speedometer reads 60mph (96.6km/h) actual speed will be 59.8mph (96.3km/h): 0.3% slower.
Typical Weight ~ 25 lbs / 11 kg ~ 23 lbs / 10 kg
Wheel+Tire Weight ~ 53 lbs / 24 kg ~ 49 lbs / 22 kg
Clearance: Package 1 Package 2
Suspension Assuming that this is OEM wheel/tire and there is no any problems with clearance on both sides >>> 100% clear (leaves even more room than OEM)
Fenders 100% clear (leaves even more room than OEM)
Wheelwells The same.

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Those ET47 wheels will fit on e90, but will look really tucked, so spacers are kinda needed.
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I wonder about that too.
Yes, cone angle (taper) is the same on both 12 & 14mm studs. Have physically measured the angle and placed 14mm studs in each rim type.

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Glad to see some traffic starting to pick up on F30 post. This thread seems the most comprehensive on what I expect to be an ongoing conversation (maybe worth making it a Sticky?).

I am currently running 189s as my winter set-up for my e90. I will be ordering an F30 soon (likely Msport/RWD, possibly Adaptive M suspension). From what I have read on this thread it sounds like:

1. I will have no problem mounting the 189s on an F30, but I will have to use the F30 bolts.

2. The front will fit perfectly fine but the rears will be a bit pushed out.

(Please correct me if I am wrong on those!)

3. My question is, with the lower profile tires on the 189s, I suppose there will be more of a wheel well gap, but is there any other negative consequence of having the "incorrect" profile ratio? Incorrect speedometer reading? I guess logically you have less rubber so could there be increased risk of damaging the rims on a pothole or bottoming out in general? Not that I had planned on it but I assume dropping it would increase any of these possible issues. Does anyone know if the M adaptive suspension is any lower than the standard Msport?

Appreciate any input!!
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      01-18-2013, 02:01 AM   #32
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For all those interested, I've replaced my 397's with my old 156 style alloys for winter on my F30.

They fitted with no issues, albeit there's not alot of room round the calliper.
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For all those interested, I've replaced my 397's with my old 156 style alloys for winter on my F30.

They fitted with no issues, albeit there's not alot of room round the calliper.
hi, any pic of a E90's 17" on a F30?

I'm considering move from the stock 16" to a 17", the E90's ones are considerably cheaper than the f30's, also the profile in 45 instead of 50 allows a better price for the tires
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The above posts both seem to say it is fine to put F30 wheels on E90 cars, but what about the other way around?

I have a set of Forgestar F14 wheels custom made for my 11' 328i, if they can go on an F30, that will make me more inclined to get an F30 in the future.

The F14 wheels do need hubcentric rings, but I don't think this is an issue, I am more concerned about the bolts fitting through the wheels. The F14s require thin wall socket to install the lugs.

And of course the offsets. My front is 18X8.5 E32, rear 18X8.5 ET26. What do you guys think?

Taller tires should not be an issue.

And one more thing, is it true that the F30 with M-Sport will have larger disc brakes even for the 328i? Is this true for the E90 also or it is new for F30?
I put my E90 VMR VB3(V703), 19x8.5 235/35R19 and 19x9.5 275/30R19 wheels and tires onto my F30 and they looked ridiculously small. The offset was really bad in the front and better in the back, but the tires looked tiny and the extra room in the wheel well was cavern-like. Admittedly, the tread was pretty well worn on the old E90 set, but still
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