F30POST
F30POST
2012-2015 BMW 3-Series and 4-Series Forum
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
BMW 3-Series and 4-Series Forum (F30 / F32) | F30POST > 2012-2019 BMW 3 and 4-Series Forums > Regional Forums > UK > Adaptive Headlights
GetBMWParts
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      12-16-2012, 02:49 PM   #23
MarkW83
Lieutenant
 
Drives: F30 330d M Sport
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: UK

Posts: 472
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardM View Post
They are Philips Silver Vision indicators. The fog lights are GP Thunder 7500K which I got for the Angel Eyes on the 335D. If anything they do look a little blue, perhaps a lower temp would be better. On the E92 they were perfect but you didn't see the bulb.
Cheers, well anything except the standard yellow is good! I got 4500k for mine, hoping they'll be a good match.
__________________
F30 330d M Sport Mineral Grey / Coral Red
Pro Nav/Visibility Pack/Comfort Pack/Harman Kardon/Head-Up Display/Electric Seats/Comfort Access/Adaptive Suspension...
MarkW83 is offline   United Kingdom
0
Reply With Quote
      12-16-2012, 03:17 PM   #24
rich1068
has left the building
 
Drives: F30 330d M Sport
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: UK

Posts: 3,363
iTrader: (0)

Another mod noted. Cheers guys!
rich1068 is offline   United Kingdom
0
Reply With Quote
      12-19-2012, 05:24 PM   #25
ThreethirtyDee
Private
 
Drives: F30 330d M Sport
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Shropshire

Posts: 98
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkW83 View Post
They also use the fogs when you have your indicator on and the wheels are straight, as well...
Can somebody confirm that the fog lights are used as cornering lights for adaptive. On my f10 5er the fog lights are not used as the cornering lights, the inner angel light in the main cluster performs this function.
ThreethirtyDee is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      12-19-2012, 05:37 PM   #26
RichardM
Major
 
Drives: F31 330D M Sport
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Herts UK

Posts: 1,484
iTrader: (1)

Yes they are. Even stationary if you turn the wheel the left or right fog light will come on.
RichardM is offline   England
0
Reply With Quote
      12-24-2012, 08:49 AM   #27
MarkW83
Lieutenant
 
Drives: F30 330d M Sport
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: UK

Posts: 472
iTrader: (0)

Richard: my dealer just installed my fog light bulbs today - described as 'xenon matching pure white', however they're just as yellow as the original bulbs! Very annoying.

So I need some more, but definitely don't want them blue at all, just a pure white. What temp would you suggest?
__________________
F30 330d M Sport Mineral Grey / Coral Red
Pro Nav/Visibility Pack/Comfort Pack/Harman Kardon/Head-Up Display/Electric Seats/Comfort Access/Adaptive Suspension...
MarkW83 is offline   United Kingdom
0
Reply With Quote
      12-24-2012, 08:57 AM   #28
F30AM
Brigadier General
 
F30AM's Avatar
 
Drives: F30 330d M Sport sDrive
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: London, UK

Posts: 4,117
iTrader: (0)

But you do know that yellowish fogs are more effective.
__________________
Present: Superman 330d sDrive M Sport + Toys (Auto Car: 0-60 in 5.5s, 0-100 in 14.2s, 30-70 in 5.1s)
Ordered: Red Tornado Golf 7R 5 Dr, DSG + Toys (Top Gear: 0-60 in 4.5s, 0-100 in 11.5s, 30-70 in 4.0s)
F30AM is offline   United Kingdom
0
Reply With Quote
      12-24-2012, 09:00 AM   #29
MarkW83
Lieutenant
 
Drives: F30 330d M Sport
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: UK

Posts: 472
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by F30AM View Post
But you do know that yellowish fogs are more effective.
Bah, only bothered about them for cornering lights my last car, being a 135i, didn't have front fogs at all (air curtain thing in their place!) but yes I do, but it's form over function in this case, the fog lights are horrible yellow IMO
__________________
F30 330d M Sport Mineral Grey / Coral Red
Pro Nav/Visibility Pack/Comfort Pack/Harman Kardon/Head-Up Display/Electric Seats/Comfort Access/Adaptive Suspension...
MarkW83 is offline   United Kingdom
0
Reply With Quote
      12-24-2012, 09:09 AM   #30
F30AM
Brigadier General
 
F30AM's Avatar
 
Drives: F30 330d M Sport sDrive
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: London, UK

Posts: 4,117
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkW83 View Post
Bah, only bothered about them for cornering lights my last car, being a 135i, didn't have front fogs at all (air curtain thing in their place!) but yes I do, but it's form over function in this case, the fog lights are horrible yellow IMO
I went through this with my GTI. I'll not bother with the BMW. I've got bigger fish to fry with my 2 faults. Anyway, I'm into yellow for 2103!
__________________
Present: Superman 330d sDrive M Sport + Toys (Auto Car: 0-60 in 5.5s, 0-100 in 14.2s, 30-70 in 5.1s)
Ordered: Red Tornado Golf 7R 5 Dr, DSG + Toys (Top Gear: 0-60 in 4.5s, 0-100 in 11.5s, 30-70 in 4.0s)
F30AM is offline   United Kingdom
0
Reply With Quote
      12-24-2012, 09:12 AM   #31
MarkW83
Lieutenant
 
Drives: F30 330d M Sport
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: UK

Posts: 472
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by F30AM View Post
I went through this with my GTI. I'll not bother with the BMW. I've got bigger fish to fry with my 2 faults. Anyway, I'm into yellow for 2103!
Yellow is the new white Maybe people will think I'm a taxi, could be interesting...

Yes I saw your thread mate, hope you get it sorted ASAP.
__________________
F30 330d M Sport Mineral Grey / Coral Red
Pro Nav/Visibility Pack/Comfort Pack/Harman Kardon/Head-Up Display/Electric Seats/Comfort Access/Adaptive Suspension...
MarkW83 is offline   United Kingdom
0
Reply With Quote
      12-24-2012, 09:22 AM   #32
F30AM
Brigadier General
 
F30AM's Avatar
 
Drives: F30 330d M Sport sDrive
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: London, UK

Posts: 4,117
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkW83 View Post
Yellow is the new white Maybe people will think I'm a taxi, could be interesting...

Yes I saw your thread mate, hope you get it sorted ASAP.
A very fast mini cab!

Yes, the faults have taken the shine off the new car experience. Got quite upset and stressed. Could do without this nonsense.

Mark: Would it be possible for you to post a picture of you driver's seat base, please? Be most grateful. I've started a thread for this purpose.

http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=784559
__________________
Present: Superman 330d sDrive M Sport + Toys (Auto Car: 0-60 in 5.5s, 0-100 in 14.2s, 30-70 in 5.1s)
Ordered: Red Tornado Golf 7R 5 Dr, DSG + Toys (Top Gear: 0-60 in 4.5s, 0-100 in 11.5s, 30-70 in 4.0s)
F30AM is offline   United Kingdom
0
Reply With Quote
      12-24-2012, 09:24 AM   #33
MarkW83
Lieutenant
 
Drives: F30 330d M Sport
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: UK

Posts: 472
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by F30AM View Post
A very fast mini cab!

Yes, the faults have taken the shine off the new car experience. Got quite upset and stressed. Could do without this nonsense.

Mark: Would it be possible for you to post a picture of you driver's seat base, please? Be most grateful. I've started a thread for this purpose.

http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=784559
No problem mate, though I've only had the car since Friday morning, and have only done about 150-200 miles, is that ok?
__________________
F30 330d M Sport Mineral Grey / Coral Red
Pro Nav/Visibility Pack/Comfort Pack/Harman Kardon/Head-Up Display/Electric Seats/Comfort Access/Adaptive Suspension...
MarkW83 is offline   United Kingdom
0
Reply With Quote
      12-24-2012, 09:48 AM   #34
F30AM
Brigadier General
 
F30AM's Avatar
 
Drives: F30 330d M Sport sDrive
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: London, UK

Posts: 4,117
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkW83 View Post
No problem mate, though I've only had the car since Friday morning, and have only done about 150-200 miles, is that ok?
Perfect Mark. I've only done 7 miles!!!!
__________________
Present: Superman 330d sDrive M Sport + Toys (Auto Car: 0-60 in 5.5s, 0-100 in 14.2s, 30-70 in 5.1s)
Ordered: Red Tornado Golf 7R 5 Dr, DSG + Toys (Top Gear: 0-60 in 4.5s, 0-100 in 11.5s, 30-70 in 4.0s)
F30AM is offline   United Kingdom
0
Reply With Quote
      12-24-2012, 11:06 AM   #35
MarkW83
Lieutenant
 
Drives: F30 330d M Sport
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: UK

Posts: 472
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by F30AM View Post
Perfect Mark. I've only done 7 miles!!!!
Done; mine had done 10 miles at delivery!
__________________
F30 330d M Sport Mineral Grey / Coral Red
Pro Nav/Visibility Pack/Comfort Pack/Harman Kardon/Head-Up Display/Electric Seats/Comfort Access/Adaptive Suspension...
MarkW83 is offline   United Kingdom
0
Reply With Quote
      12-24-2012, 01:03 PM   #36
RichardM
Major
 
Drives: F31 330D M Sport
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Herts UK

Posts: 1,484
iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkW83 View Post
Richard: my dealer just installed my fog light bulbs today - described as 'xenon matching pure white', however they're just as yellow as the original bulbs! Very annoying.

So I need some more, but definitely don't want them blue at all, just a pure white. What temp would you suggest?
Do you know what colour you have now Mark? Mine are 7500K. Someone on the first page of this thread suggested 5100K. To be honest I'm perfectly happy with mine. It's more the blue on the bulb itself you see very slightly rather that the output looking blue.
RichardM is offline   England
0
Reply With Quote
      12-24-2012, 01:19 PM   #37
MarkW83
Lieutenant
 
Drives: F30 330d M Sport
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: UK

Posts: 472
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardM View Post
Do you know what colour you have now Mark? Mine are 7500K. Someone on the first page of this thread suggested 5100K. To be honest I'm perfectly happy with mine. It's more the blue on the bulb itself you see very slightly rather that the output looking blue.
Apparently they're 4500k, though I find that hard to believe, as the Xenons themselves are apparently 4300k, and these are a very definite yellow, no difference from stock!

I wonder if 6500k would be good, removing the slight blue tint?
__________________
F30 330d M Sport Mineral Grey / Coral Red
Pro Nav/Visibility Pack/Comfort Pack/Harman Kardon/Head-Up Display/Electric Seats/Comfort Access/Adaptive Suspension...
MarkW83 is offline   United Kingdom
0
Reply With Quote
      12-25-2012, 08:17 PM   #38
MaestroAl
Major
 
Drives: Superman 330D M Sport
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: UK

Posts: 1,194
iTrader: (0)

6500K would be seriously blue, going on purple. 6000K is "brilliant white" and looks blue to oncoming traffic. I don't believe for one second that the stock HIDs are 4500K; I'd have said at least 5000K if not 5500K would better describe the colour I'm seeing but then light can be deceptive

I still say the visibility pack is the best thing on this car. It's been bloody amazing over the last thousand miles or so: most of which have been at night. Travelling down unlit, major roads in this crappy weather with the active high beam thingy is a truly unique experience and makes SUCH a difference to my driving and the adaptives on twisty B roads have been equally good
__________________
"Superman 330D M Sport" Estoril Blue / Coral Red
2PF|ZAP|ZMP|ZVI|2VF|3AP|420|488|494|5DC|688|6NR
IT ARRIVED!
MaestroAl is offline   United Kingdom
0
Reply With Quote
      12-26-2012, 02:56 AM   #39
MarkW83
Lieutenant
 
Drives: F30 330d M Sport
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: UK

Posts: 472
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by MaestroAl View Post
6500K would be seriously blue, going on purple. 6000K is "brilliant white" and looks blue to oncoming traffic. I don't believe for one second that the stock HIDs are 4500K; I'd have said at least 5000K if not 5500K would better describe the colour I'm seeing but then light can be deceptive

I still say the visibility pack is the best thing on this car. It's been bloody amazing over the last thousand miles or so: most of which have been at night. Travelling down unlit, major roads in this crappy weather with the active high beam thingy is a truly unique experience and makes SUCH a difference to my driving and the adaptives on twisty B roads have been equally good
I read that a xenon lamp usually has a colour temp of 4300k, and 4100k has the most light penetration, and emits a 'white' light, so most car manufacturers use that; but if these fog lights are correctly described as 4500k (as it says on their box), then yes you're right, as they're bloody yellow! But as always, there is a lot of misinformation about, and people stating opinion as fact, when they don't really know. Hence my 'apparently', as I couldn't be sure

MaestroAl: surely the small difference to 5000k from 4500k (as my blatantly yellow fog lights apparently are) won't instantly transform them to pure, crisp white: what would you recommend for my 'white' fog light bulbs? I don't want any blue at all, just a proper white...
__________________
F30 330d M Sport Mineral Grey / Coral Red
Pro Nav/Visibility Pack/Comfort Pack/Harman Kardon/Head-Up Display/Electric Seats/Comfort Access/Adaptive Suspension...

Last edited by MarkW83; 12-26-2012 at 03:06 AM.
MarkW83 is offline   United Kingdom
0
Reply With Quote
      12-26-2012, 06:47 AM   #40
RichardM
Major
 
Drives: F31 330D M Sport
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Herts UK

Posts: 1,484
iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by MaestroAl View Post
6500K would be seriously blue, going on purple. 6000K is "brilliant white" and looks blue to oncoming traffic. I don't believe for one second that the stock HIDs are 4500K; I'd have said at least 5000K if not 5500K would better describe the colour I'm seeing but then light can be deceptive
These are 7500K (on the left in the first pic) and I don't see how you could describe them as being seriously blue, let alone 6500K. Happy to take more pics to try and capture the light differently.
Attached Images
  
RichardM is offline   England
0
Reply With Quote
      12-26-2012, 07:18 AM   #41
MaestroAl
Major
 
Drives: Superman 330D M Sport
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: UK

Posts: 1,194
iTrader: (0)

Impossible to tell on a photo because most cameras will tend to make all light white through auto colour balance

I've always found around 6000K to be the happy point for the "brightest and whitest" light meself

Here's a helpful chart or two:


__________________
"Superman 330D M Sport" Estoril Blue / Coral Red
2PF|ZAP|ZMP|ZVI|2VF|3AP|420|488|494|5DC|688|6NR
IT ARRIVED!
MaestroAl is offline   United Kingdom
0
Reply With Quote
      12-26-2012, 10:03 AM   #42
NISFAN
Brigadier General
 
NISFAN's Avatar
 
Drives: The best kind of F30 :)
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Bedford UK

Posts: 4,061
iTrader: (0)

Richard

Liking the bulbs you have fitted, look pretty close to the headlights in the pics. Possibly slightly on the blue side.

As for the headlight colour range, I was under the impression projector lenses made the light appear a higher colour range to start with? I know my headlights seem quite blue?
__________________
NISFAN is offline   England
0
Reply With Quote
      01-11-2013, 09:37 AM   #43
MarkW83
Lieutenant
 
Drives: F30 330d M Sport
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: UK

Posts: 472
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardM View Post
They are Philips Silver Vision indicators. The fog lights are GP Thunder 7500K which I got for the Angel Eyes on the 335D. If anything they do look a little blue, perhaps a lower temp would be better. On the E92 they were perfect but you didn't see the bulb.
Richard: I've been looking for some 6000k fog light bulbs with no luck as yet; I definitely don't want them looking blue though, wondered if you could recommend some for me to get (pure white to match the Xenons)??
__________________
F30 330d M Sport Mineral Grey / Coral Red
Pro Nav/Visibility Pack/Comfort Pack/Harman Kardon/Head-Up Display/Electric Seats/Comfort Access/Adaptive Suspension...
MarkW83 is offline   United Kingdom
0
Reply With Quote
      01-12-2013, 01:31 PM   #44
RichardM
Major
 
Drives: F31 330D M Sport
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Herts UK

Posts: 1,484
iTrader: (1)

Can't help you Mark sorry. I had a quick look and can see 5000K and 7500K but nothing in between.
RichardM is offline   England
0
Reply With Quote
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:59 AM.




f30post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST