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      02-02-2013, 04:50 PM   #23
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So no one else a fan of the burl/metal?

Personally feel its stellar in 5, x5 ect...
I'm a fan and have ordered it. I like the metal trims too, so the decision wasn't easy. I had aluminum trim in my Honda Accord in the early 2000's. My GT has aluminum trim as well. With the wood my M Sport will look aggressive on the outside, and sporty but still luxurious on the inside. In the end, I appreciate anyone's choice for exterior color and interior trim and understand that it's what "works" for them. If all our cars looked the same we'd be bored to death.

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Even with the elegant metal trim that trims the bottom of the dash?

Does the 5 series pull it off better?
Yup.......it's not as sporty. Wood does not belong in sports car/sedan. Belongs in old guy/luxury sedan.....IMO .
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I'm a fan and have ordered it. I like the metal trims too, so the decision wasn't easy. I had aluminum trim in my Honda Accord in the early 2000's. My GT has aluminum trim as well. With the wood my M Sport will look aggressive on the outside, and sporty but still luxurious on the inside. In the end, I appreciate anyone's choice for exterior color and interior trim and understand that it's what "works" for them. If all our cars looked the same we'd be bored to death.

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Any chance you could post your pictures link? Sounds like a beautiful setup!
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Any chance you could post your pictures link? Sounds like a beautiful setup!
Thanks! Check out my sig. The car is on order for European Delivery on April 23rd. There's a lot of waiting to go before I can post some photos.
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I am suprised that I have not seen more discussion about the filler line on the Luxury, Modern, and Sport Line bumpers. I guess most don't really mind it. I really don't like it and wish I was getting the base line bumer.
I think most fall in line with a "line". I am too fussy and I think so used to the old way of ordering cars that I am really struggling with picking a line thats right for me.

Interior- Luxury, but add sport seats.
Exterior-BASE- I know... weird, but its the cleanest look at there.
Seats- M Sport.
Steering Wheel- Sport wheel from Luxury.

- I want to love the M sport. But I question whether or not i'd be posing in that line. M is written on all the wheels, the steering wheel and 6 speed shifter. Even on the trim walking into the car. Yet we assume others wont think this is an M 3? my Lord BMW, why not just write ///M Sport instead!!!! Even Steering wheel wouldn't confuse with real M3...
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I think most fall in line with a "line". I am too fussy and I think so used to the old way of ordering cars that I am really struggling with picking a line thats right for me.

Interior- Luxury, but add sport seats.
Exterior-BASE- I know... weird, but its the cleanest look at there.
Seats- M Sport.
Steering Wheel- Sport wheel from Luxury.

- I want to love the M sport. But I question whether or not i'd be posing in that line. M is written on all the wheels, the steering wheel and 6 speed shifter. Even on the trim walking into the car. Yet we assume others wont think this is an M 3? my Lord BMW, why not just write ///M Sport instead!!!! Even Steering wheel wouldn't confuse with real M3...
Don't worry about what others think. If they know anything about the car they will know what M means and why its there. Looks cool.....order it.
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I think most fall in line with a "line". I am too fussy and I think so used to the old way of ordering cars that I am really struggling with picking a line thats right for me.

Interior- Luxury, but add sport seats.
Exterior-BASE- I know... weird, but its the cleanest look at there.
Seats- M Sport.
Steering Wheel- Sport wheel from Luxury.

- I want to love the M sport. But I question whether or not i'd be posing in that line. M is written on all the wheels, the steering wheel and 6 speed shifter. Even on the trim walking into the car. Yet we assume others wont think this is an M 3? my Lord BMW, why not just write ///M Sport instead!!!! Even Steering wheel wouldn't confuse with real M3...
As posted earlier, I agree with your list, especially the Base model looking the best. As for the M-Sport, I need xDrive and cannot see the advantage of ordering it and with exception of EBII, the interior options are limited and basically are hand-me-downs from the other Lines.
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I think most fall in line with a "line". I am too fussy and I think so used to the old way of ordering cars that I am really struggling with picking a line thats right for me.

Interior- Luxury, but add sport seats.
Exterior-BASE- I know... weird, but its the cleanest look at there.
Seats- M Sport.
Steering Wheel- Sport wheel from Luxury.

- I want to love the M sport. But I question whether or not i'd be posing in that line. M is written on all the wheels, the steering wheel and 6 speed shifter. Even on the trim walking into the car. Yet we assume others wont think this is an M 3? my Lord BMW, why not just write ///M Sport instead!!!! Even Steering wheel wouldn't confuse with real M3...
As far as the exterior, the wheels are what make the most difference to me. I like both the Sport and Modern Line wheels, but really don't like the Luxury. The trim pieces and grill don't matter that much to me, except that trim line in the bumper which I really don't care for. The interior for me is fine for all three lines, but I really don't like the Base interior and steering wheel at all.
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So no one else a fan of the burl/metal?

Personally feel its stellar in 5, x5 ect...
I personally hate burl wood in cars, it's so 1990. I would like it if the wood was more uniform. For my M-Sport the only option I can stomach is the aluminum, a little cold but what can I say.
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I personally hate burl wood in cars, it's so 1990. I would like it if the wood was more uniform. For my M-Sport the only option I can stomach is the aluminum, a little cold but what can I say.


1990s Spider

Woods and metals have both been used through the decades. People have preferences, that's all. In 20 years you may prefer wood, thinking that aluminum is "too turn of the century."

btw, "hate" is a pretty strong word.....
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As far as the exterior, the wheels are what make the most difference to me. I like both the Sport and Modern Line wheels, but really don't like the Luxury. The trim pieces and grill don't matter that much to me, except that trim line in the bumper which I really don't care for. The interior for me is fine for all three lines, but I really don't like the Base interior and steering wheel at all.
I agree here... BMW is basically forcing us to choose a line because the wheels of the base are so boring! ANd base seats and non sport steering wheel in a 52,000 loaded car? What the heck?
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1990s Spider

Woods and metals have both been used through the decades. People have preferences, that's all. In 20 years you may prefer wood, thinking that aluminum is "too turn of the century."

btw, "hate" is a pretty strong word.....
Metal is cold? Actually wood interior trim is considered warm

How can wood, which is hand crafted and great quality be hated? Why not have a beautiful wood interior... BMW is a very luxurious car. If they left it off the 3 series people would cry that its a cheap car!
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Metal is cold? Actually wood interior trim is considered warm

How can wood, which is hand crafted and great quality be hated? Why not have a beautiful wood interior... BMW is a very luxurious car. If they left it off the 3 series people would cry that its a cheap car!
You quoted the wrong post. I actually have a slight preference for the wood. Notice the build of my car in my sig. And, did you mean to begin your post "Wood is cold?" instead of "Metal is cold?"
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1990s Spider

Woods and metals have both been used through the decades. People have preferences, that's all. In 20 years you may prefer wood, thinking that aluminum is "too turn of the century."

btw, "hate" is a pretty strong word.....


Did you just post a Renault photo in a BMW forum?

Next time counter me with a Lada or Yugo for maximum comic effect.
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You quoted the wrong post. I actually have a slight preference for the wood. Notice the build of my car in my sig. And, did you mean to begin your post "Wood is cold?" instead of "Metal is cold?"
Yikes... sorry for the blunder... I was trying to talk to the other guy who wasn't a fan.

Not sure why I am on my high horse when it comes to the wood interior thing. I guess my eye sees some kind of luxury that is a personal taste.

Carbon leather is actually my favorite. From the M3. To me, it was better than Burl or Metal.

Let the M sport have that optionally and maybe or discussion is MOOT
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I'm with you on this. I hate wood in a car it just do not belong, especially a sport sedan. I find it hard to see why would someone want sport package and then brown and wood interior!!

I personally think BMW did a really good job with the lines and the options that were offered when I was building my car was perfect.
Brown interior looks amazing (Sport pkg/terra interior here, wouldn't have it any other way). Black interiors are boring. Beige, no thanks.
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- I want to love the M sport. But I question whether or not i'd be posing in that line. M is written on all the wheels, the steering wheel and 6 speed shifter. Even on the trim walking into the car. Yet we assume others wont think this is an M 3? my Lord BMW, why not just write ///M Sport instead!!!! Even Steering wheel wouldn't confuse with real M3...
Such packages have been offered for twenty plus years now. You could get a 318ti with the same front end as an e36 M3, literally in your rearview you would not be able to distinguish.

I upgraded my wheels so there is not one single M badge on the exterior. M steering wheels and knobs really do not mean much, do not get too hung up on It.


I had a no line base 6mt on order at first. There is something about how the m sport is kitted out, it just makes the car feel a bit more special.
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Such packages have been offered for twenty plus years now. You could get a 318ti with the same front end as an e36 M3, literally in your rearview you would not be able to distinguish.

I upgraded my wheels so there is not one single M badge on the exterior. M steering wheels and knobs really do not mean much, do not get too hung up on It.


I had a no line base 6mt on order at first. There is something about how the m sport is kitted out, it just makes the car feel a bit more special.
I think you are right about the M Sport. Its been discussed here as a special look. I just hate having dicussions with people telling me its a poser ///M when the reality is the owner is not trying to look as though he or she has an M.

I think if BMW labeled the steering wheel as ///Msportline opposed to ///M wouldnt have this backlash. Or if the front spoiler wasn't such a duplicate of the next M3.

I realize all of the components that go into an M are skin deep. But why is BMW pushing the M look on non M cars? Money... they can sell a package and people will sign up.

Just in my case its about the Burl Wood, the nicer stitching. And less about the exterior appearance.
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I think you are right about the M Sport. Its been discussed here as a special look. I just hate having dicussions with people telling me its a poser ///M when the reality is the owner is not trying to look as though he or she has an M.

I think if BMW labeled the steering wheel as ///Msportline opposed to ///M wouldnt have this backlash. Or if the front spoiler wasn't such a duplicate of the next M3.

I realize all of the components that go into an M are skin deep. But why is BMW pushing the M look on non M cars? Money... they can sell a package and people will sign up.

Just in my case its about the Burl Wood, the nicer stitching. And less about the exterior appearance.
Never encountered poser mentality from anyone.

But I have been to shows where people put m badges and m stripes on cars that did not come with them. Thats one thing. Audi has the S-line which gives it S4 appearance, MB has Amg packs of wheels and bodykit for lesser models, Porsche put the body kit from the turbo on NA 911s as S models. This is pretty much the standard for the industry.
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Never encountered poser mentality from anyone.

But I have been to shows where people put m badges and m stripes on cars that did not come with them. Thats one thing. Audi has the S-line which gives it S4 appearance, MB has Amg packs of wheels and bodykit for lesser models, Porsche put the body kit from the turbo on NA 911s as S models. This is pretty much the standard for the industry.
I have a friend who owns an e92 M3. And to be honest, I see why he would present his feelings to me about this. I have asked his opinion over the course of choosing the car.

I think its more of my own problem about image and what my friends think about the car as opposed to what reality is. I am glad you brought this up because maybe BMW needs to be cut some slack since MB, Audi and Lexus all have a sportline similar to their performance brand.
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The only people worried about being a poser driving M Sport packages are ones that aren't comfortable in their own skin. Now, if you stick a ///M badge on your M Sport, like this guy, then yeah, you're being a poser.
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I agree here... BMW is basically forcing us to choose a line because the wheels of the base are so boring! ANd base seats and non sport steering wheel in a 52,000 loaded car? What the heck?
The Japanese invented this "package strategy years ago..very efficient on the assembly line.
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