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      02-16-2013, 12:02 AM   #595
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Instead of photos, I found you a nice video of NBT in action

http://askabmwclientadvisor.com/2013...-professional/
Thanks for that. I've played with NBT before and to me it seems that aside from the faster menu navigation and better maps, its not really much different from CIC. Sad, because the new hardware platform should allow BMW to do a whole lot more. The troubling part is that based on their history when/if they do make a big software changes, they won't offer it to older NBT MY cars.
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      02-16-2013, 08:51 AM   #596
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Thanks for that. I've played with NBT before and to me it seems that aside from the faster menu navigation and better maps, its not really much different from CIC. Sad, because the new hardware platform should allow BMW to do a whole lot more. The troubling part is that based on their history when/if they do make a big software changes, they won't offer it to older NBT MY cars.
Yeah, the operation of the NBT is virtually the same as the CIC. If you know one, you'll understand the other.

I disagree that they'll leave out older NBT units from software changes. A 2013 CIC car has the same features as a 2009 CIC unit. I expect Siri Eyes Free to be an update, this summer. Of course the touch controller (or whatever they'll call it) will probably not retrofit easily into current NBT cars. But who knows.
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      02-16-2013, 10:19 AM   #597
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I just had a loaner 2013 5 with the NEW nav and its so much faster.. i hate mine now. When i zoom in or out it always takes a few seconds. The new one was almost instant like my acura was.
plus it had an auto zoom out feature like many phones or gps units have.

I really liked on RADIO it would display album art like ipods do.
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      02-16-2013, 01:06 PM   #598
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I just had a loaner 2013 5 with the NEW nav and its so much faster.. i hate mine now. When i zoom in or out it always takes a few seconds. The new one was almost instant like my acura was.
plus it had an auto zoom out feature like many phones or gps units have.

I really liked on RADIO it would display album art like ipods do.
Yes, crazy fast. Especially when scrolling through lists like your phone book. It also displays artist and song info on non-RDS FM stations, from what I can tell.
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      02-16-2013, 04:43 PM   #599
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I disagree that they'll leave out older NBT units from software changes. A 2013 CIC car has the same features as a 2009 CIC unit.
I am not sure about that. E90 CIC MY2010+ had a hardware update that enabled new software features like satelite view. It ended up being not just a software update, as MY2009 could not get those new features even with the same ISTA/P or nav. sys. versions that a MY2010+ system would have.
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I am hoping NBT nav has a much larger nav database installed. If so, it may not fit in the allotted HDD space in CIC.
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I am not sure about that. E90 CIC MY2010+ had a hardware update that enabled new software features like satelite view. It ended up being not just a software update, as MY2009 could not get those new features even with the same ISTA/P or nav. sys. versions that a MY2010+ system would have.
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Ah I didn't realize that.

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I am hoping NBT nav has a much larger nav database installed. If so, it may not fit in the allotted HDD space in CIC.
NBT Nav has 65.5GB worth of map data.
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I just had a loaner 2013 5 with the NEW nav and its so much faster.. i hate mine now. When i zoom in or out it always takes a few seconds. The new one was almost instant like my acura was.
plus it had an auto zoom out feature like many phones or gps units have.

I really liked on RADIO it would display album art like ipods do.

Yesterday, I had a 328i F30 loaner, of course with the old Nav. The difference in speed was very noticeable. Even when scrolling through a list of FM stations, there is a hesitation. Move the knob 5 clicks, it waits a 1/2 second before actually going. With NBT, it is truly instant.
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It appear that in Europe, Navigation (ZNP) no longer includes 6NL and is therefore cheaper. 6NS is the replacement add-on option code for 6NL. Functionality appears to be identical, just a packaging change.
Quoting myself here.. but it appears BMW is removing 6NL Enhanced Bluetooth/Smartphone integration from the Technology Package, and re-coding it as 6NS, across multiple models/countries. Tech Package will be cheaper as a result, and 6NS will be a few hundred dollars. The net cost for ordering both should be within a few hundred dollars of when they were bundled.

I noticed this on the 2014 F25 X3 order guide for the US. So you can expect the 2014 F30 to be the same.

6AC - BMW Assist eCall (same as BMW Assist, free for 4 years?) is now standard on the F25.
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I just had a loaner 2013 5 with the NEW nav and its so much faster.. i hate mine now. When i zoom in or out it always takes a few seconds. The new one was almost instant like my acura was.
plus it had an auto zoom out feature like many phones or gps units have.

I really liked on RADIO it would display album art like ipods do.
John, do you mean the album art from radio stations are displayed ?
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Finally I received my F30! The car was produced in January 2013. The waiting period was half a year (!). But NBT is present!!!
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Finally I received my F30! The car was produced in January 2013. The waiting period was half a year (!). But NBT is present!!!
Congrats on your new car!
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US model???
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Finally I received my F30! The car was produced in January 2013. The waiting period was half a year (!). But NBT is present!!!
I didn't think they were putting it on the early models in the US?
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Espresso time, Unless I am reading it wrong it states Ivan is in Russia...
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Espresso time, Unless I am reading it wrong it states Ivan is in Russia...
Yeah just saw that. I was looking at the name above me and saw CA
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Yes, of course, the model was assembled in Germany and it is for Russia. Thanks for the congratulations!
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sorry, but what does NBT mean ?
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sorry, but what does NBT mean ?
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Do you guys think a Mid-March build will have the NBT navi in the US ? I keep reading different things pertaining to when it will be released on the F30s in the states.
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Probably July but the F31 has it per the spec sheet.
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Where does it show that ? I just checked the spec sheet and it wasnt listed on there.
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Where does it show that ? I just checked the spec sheet and it wasnt listed on there.
The spec sheet says 200GB HDD with a 20GB available for Music. Matches spec for NBT in the powerpoint that BMW published last summer. Also, it says ADVANCED Real Time Traffic (another indicator)...

Third, Concierge is offered as an option.

All 3 add up to me to say NAV PRO !!!
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