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      07-16-2012, 07:15 PM   #23
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So what exactly does this piggyback do to achieve such a high increase in hp for the N20, and what's that going to do to the long term reliability of the engine?
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      07-16-2012, 10:08 PM   #24
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just looks amazing.. wow!
Kelleners has just given me a whole new perspective on the F30 (lookwise) !!!!
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      07-16-2012, 11:36 PM   #25
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exciting look!! Love it!!!
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      07-17-2012, 02:37 AM   #26
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Great parts, give a more aggressive look to the "normal" lines
As for the power increase the numbers are the same with those presented by Hartge
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      07-17-2012, 03:20 AM   #27
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So what exactly does this piggyback do to achieve such a high increase in hp for the N20, and what's that going to do to the long term reliability of the engine?
I was thinking the same thing.
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      07-17-2012, 03:26 AM   #28
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Good to see some development for the f30. I like the rear diffuser but styling-wise I still prefer what BMW have done with the msport and M performance range
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      07-17-2012, 04:37 AM   #29
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What does it change? Just boost increase? Or the also change the timing and AFR?
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      07-21-2012, 09:37 AM   #30
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Beautiful!!
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Wow those numbers look good.. And a warranty to back it up? Hrm.. http://www.kelleners-sport.com/en/documents.php

I wonder if they'll have a plug-n-play option for easy mapping/unmapping.


Hoping Cobb will roll up soon with some toys..
I am hoping for a Dinan tune for the n20.
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      07-22-2012, 08:07 PM   #32
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wow! i actually like it a lot.
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needs more Kellners badges.
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      07-22-2012, 10:28 PM   #34
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      08-17-2012, 11:56 PM   #35
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Simple modification to the car but still it looks stock! The black paint job gave a great simple shine on the car's exterior. The wheels matches the rake which is perfect for superior handling.
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      08-18-2012, 12:23 AM   #36
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are these ecu tunes or just a box?
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      11-14-2012, 04:25 AM   #37
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Any word on possible dealers for this stuff?
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Would this diffuser fit a dual tip exhaust? Or is only for Quad tips?
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      12-16-2012, 10:02 PM   #39
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Love the lip!
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Originally Posted by Xcution View Post
If we go by what Alan said, the chip and it is being rebranded see link below:

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/BMW-...2005-cars.aspx

The chip cost approx $1,200

EDIT: They actually have it on sale from $1,600 to now $1,299 if you probably wait till end of year or so with other competitors or more stuff coming out for the F30 you can get this fro under 1k, imo. Lets see...
Would this tune void the warranty? I use to think quad was overkill but starting to change my mind.
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      03-26-2013, 08:27 AM   #41
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They really look rather lovely.
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I do believe ECU tuning is done by HARTGE but being rebadged for Kelleners.

Its a piggyback tune that we can purchase here in the states through Turnermotorsport.

Alan
I'm going to call TMS on Monday to find out what actually is available from Hartge/Kelleners. Will update this thread.
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      12-07-2013, 07:57 PM   #43
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Kelleners tuning principle for diesel engines

I know that this says that the Kellener tuner box works differently than, say the BMS/JBD diesel box does. Could someone rephrase this, describing exactly how they work differently? I do understand that the BMS works by tricking the ECU into supplying more fuel to the pistons while creating problems downstream with DPF and higher emissions, and possibly with other engine parts. Is the Kelleher box kinder and gentler?

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The tuning principle for diesel engines:

Kelleners Sport additional engine control units for increasing power mainly influence the main injection time. The pre-injection and post-injection times are not affected because this would lead to a rough running. Consequently, the rail pressure remains unchanged when a Kelleners Sport additional engine control unit is fitted because increasing it would result in larger amounts of fuel being injected during the pre-injection and post-injection phases. Moreover, this would also increase the load on the fuel system, something that does not occur when a Kelleners Sport additional engine control unit is fitted.
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