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      11-15-2012, 12:19 AM   #1
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M Sport Brake Vs

Whats is worth it paying $350 to upgrade current brakes of a f30 335i to the m sport brakes. The one where you need to get msport package.

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Should I get BMW M Performance 18'' brakes
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1. If I decide to go with the 18" brakes how much would it cost for parts and labour roughly?

2. Would the 18" brakes be way more of a grip then the m brakes that are a upgrade in msport package? How much % better?
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      11-15-2012, 04:39 AM   #2
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The M Sport brakes and the M Performance brakes are IDENTICAL in size and all, except for that the Performance discs are slotted. Thas the only difference, so if u can get the M Sport brakes its only stupid not to take them. Unless you want red, orange or yellow calipers instead of the blue
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      11-15-2012, 11:29 AM   #3
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Actually the rear rotors on the mperformance kit are bigger than reg msport ...
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      11-15-2012, 12:28 PM   #4
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Actually the rear rotors on the mperformance kit are bigger than reg msport ...
No, M-sport brakes & M-performance brakes are identical on all four corners apart from the slotted discs on the M-perf kit.
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      11-15-2012, 12:43 PM   #5
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Man, its def worth it! I wasn't gonna get it but the dealer ended up giving it to me since there were so many delays with the car etc. The brakes look sweet and everyone always tells me how nice they stand out!
$350 isn't much on a $60k plus car...i would get it again for sure!
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      11-15-2012, 12:47 PM   #6
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      11-15-2012, 12:49 PM   #7
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No, M-sport brakes & M-performance brakes are identical on all four corners apart from the slotted discs on the M-perf kit.
Of course were neglecting whether this is a 328 or 335. If youre talkin 335 then yes, if 328 then no.

328i M sport brakes - front: 13.4" / rear: 13.6" = 340mm/345mm
335i M sport brakes - front: 14.6" front / rear: 13.6" rear = 370mm/345mm

M performance kit (all f30) -
•Front rotor size: 370mm x 30mm
•Rear rotor size*: 345mm x 24mm

And it goes without saying OP, that u must have 18" wheels or above to fit

Im friggin jealous u even get this option. Us in the US for some asinine reason, dont get msport brakes at all
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      11-15-2012, 04:19 PM   #8
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Im friggin jealous u even get this option. Us in the US for some asinine reason, dont get msport brakes at all
Believe me, it is the only option advantage for Canadian purchasers of F30-335i M Sport compared to US pricing and options.
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Of course were neglecting whether this is a 328 or 335. If youre talkin 335 then yes, if 328 then no.

328i M sport brakes - front: 13.4" / rear: 13.6" = 340mm/345mm
335i M sport brakes - front: 14.6" front / rear: 13.6" rear = 370mm/345mm

M performance kit (all f30) -
Front rotor size: 370mm x 30mm
Rear rotor size*: 345mm x 24mm

And it goes without saying OP, that u must have 18" wheels or above to fit

Im friggin jealous u even get this option. Us in the US for some asinine reason, dont get msport brakes at all

smaller 328i M Sport brake rotors are mythical. there is no such thing. You can not order M Sport brakes in USA and the 328i M Sport does not exist for Canadian buyers. In the ROW all model M Sport brakes are the same size.
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      11-15-2012, 11:48 PM   #10
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Of course were neglecting whether this is a 328 or 335. If youre talkin 335 then yes, if 328 then no.
If u're talking abt the mythical US-spec M-sport brakes then yes, but if u're talking ROW/EU-spec then no. M-sport brake is the same regardless of whether it's a 316d or a 335i.
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      11-16-2012, 04:18 AM   #11
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If u're talking abt the mythical US-spec M-sport brakes then yes, but if u're talking ROW/EU-spec then no. M-sport brake is the same regardless of whether it's a 316d or a 335i.
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      11-16-2012, 04:22 AM   #12
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Do you think that the BMW marketeers who decide what "lines", what options, what packages and what general shizzle is available in what country ... all take a truck load of acid before their meetings?
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      11-16-2012, 05:05 AM   #13
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Do you think that the BMW marketeers who decide what "lines", what options, what packages and what general shizzle is available in what country ... all take a truck load of acid before their meetings?
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Bigger brakes does not equal better performance. It's all about the pads. You can easily outperform M Sport/M Performance brakes with the stock setup and a good set of pads. For 99% of folks the big brakes are eye candy. The only benefit of a big kit is more capacity for heat dissipation to prevent fade.
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      11-16-2012, 06:41 PM   #15
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Bigger brakes does not equal better performance. It's all about the pads. You can easily outperform M Sport/M Performance brakes with the stock setup and a good set of pads. For 99% of folks the big brakes are eye candy. The only benefit of a big kit is more capacity for heat dissipation to prevent fade.
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If you use your brakes, it is the biggest benefit!
Brake fade is the killer of all standard brakes!
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Quote: "The only benefit of a big kit is more capacity for heat dissipation to prevent fade" ?
If you use your brakes, it is the biggest benefit!
Brake fade is the killer of all standard brakes!
If you're experiencing fade on the street, you're doing it wrong. ;-)
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Damn right. I'd add to that; if you're getting brake fade on the street then you need locking up
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Quote: "The only benefit of a big kit is more capacity for heat dissipation to prevent fade" ?
If you use your brakes, it is the biggest benefit!
Brake fade is the killer of all standard brakes!
On the track man! That's what the M-Sport braking system 2NH is for.
Not for ponceing down the boulavard!
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      10-22-2013, 09:57 AM   #19
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Winter Wheels? Blue MSport Brakes

What are you guys using for winter wheels with the msport setup?
I hear there are only a few 18" that fit.
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I'm going to use the 400 M
Front 8Jx18 225/45
Rear 8 1/2Jx18 255/40
with Pirelli Sottozero II RFT
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The rotors are lighter with the M performance setup...
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The rotors are lighter with the M performance setup...
Do you have any documentation showing weights?
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