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      02-07-2015, 06:30 AM   #23
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Yes maybe there is a difference.
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Yes. NBT and macro_fds works with older build date.
Did you try to move the flag?
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Did you try to move the flag?
Yeah, I'm assuming you did actually try to change the mode and you can check something other than "Drivetrain and Chassis"
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      02-07-2015, 06:45 AM   #27
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Wow thats awesome.. I think i'm gonna give coding a try on my f30 soon
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@Terabyte can you share your build date, chassis, and what have you coded to make it work? I am european too with f32 3/14. Actually i have the setup possibility screen enabled but i cant move the flag.
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@Terabyte can you share your build date, chassis, and what have you coded to make it work? I am european too with f32 3/14. Actually i have the setup possibility screen enabled but i cant move the flag.
If you do the stuff in the first post it will work.
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Hey, did you notice any other changes in NBT or FEM? I was reading in another forum that if you changed to that specific build date in CIC and code KOMBI then the nav on the instrument cluster came up weird and out of proportion. So I'm wondering if i change NBT or FEM that MY14 will act up. I would also be temped to code KOMBI so i can have my time on the bottom right corner
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Hey, did you notice any other changes in NBT or FEM? I was reading in another forum that if you changed to that specific build date in CIC and code KOMBI then the nav on the instrument cluster came up weird and out of proportion. So I'm wondering if i change NBT or FEM that MY14 will act up. I would also be temped to code KOMBI so i can have my time on the bottom right corner
I coded my KOMBI to the same build date in this thread for just that reason, I like the time there.

As far as I know the only module that gets weird if you Vo code it to 2015 is the DSC, it will throw a TPM error.
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I coded my KOMBI to the same build date in this thread for just that reason, I like the time there.

As far as I know the only module that gets weird if you Vo code it to 2015 is the DSC, it will throw a TPM error.
AH! Defiantly VO coding KOMBI if there isn't any problem with the nav! Thanks!
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Hey, did you notice any other changes in NBT or FEM? I was reading in another forum that if you changed to that specific build date in CIC and code KOMBI then the nav on the instrument cluster came up weird and out of proportion. So I'm wondering if i change NBT or FEM that MY14 will act up. I would also be temped to code KOMBI so i can have my time on the bottom right corner
You can correct for the resolution by going back into Kombi and under one of the settings for NBT_Enabled, set that to Off so the KOMBI will know you have the CIC and not the NBT and works perfectly.
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You can correct for the resolution by going back into Kombi and under one of the settings for NBT_Enabled, set that to Off so the KOMBI will know you have the CIC and not the NBT and works perfectly.
Very good to know, thanks
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thank you! this is awesome! can't wait to try it out.
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      03-12-2015, 05:22 PM   #36
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I would really like to have sport or sport+ modes configured with comfort (light) steering. Heavy steering feels so artificial that I really wonder why I cant adjust that. It does not make any better road feel, just harder to turn the wheel..

Has anyone found any parameters related to steering values/stiffness?
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I would really like to have sport or sport+ modes configured with comfort (light) steering. Heavy steering feels so artificial that I really wonder why I cant adjust that. It does not make any better road feel, just harder to turn the wheel..

Has anyone found any parameters related to steering values/stiffness?
UNless I'm misunderstanding you should be able to achieve this by selecting "drivetrain only" from the configure sport mode screen. that should give you the transmission and throttle response of sport mode with the lighter steering. And of course if you dont care about the sport mode throttle you can simply move the gear lever to the left in comfort mode to get the "sport" transmission shift points.

The one thing that isn't achievable is to have sport throttle only since they bundle throttle and transmission settings together under drivetrain. Personally i'm ok with that since i can't stand the sport throttle setting.
But you should be able to achieve:
-steering only (by sleecting chassis only)
-tranmssion only (using gear lever)
-Steering, trans and throttle (all)
-Steering and trans (chassis only + gear lever to left)
-trans and throttle only (drivetrain)

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I am very excited to discover this thread. Does anyone know if this also works on US 2014 F10s? I'd love to have the sport steering wihout the throttle and tranmission settings. My current workaround is put the traction control into DTC mode (which has the side effect of making the steering heavier too). Not the best idea from a safety standpoint and when my wife is in the car she gets upset about it.

And since i"ve never VO coded (only FDL coded before), I have a question: I gather that one of the things VO coding does is to automatically set individual parameters in the ECUs according to the options and build date. Of course, you could in theory do this manually with FDL coding. But is there more to it than that? In other words, if you did a "diff" of the CAFD files before and after changing the build date, and then manually FDL coded the relevant params, would it be the same? Or is changing the build date mandatory to get certain features to work (such as this).

Also, I have FDL coded a few settings in HU_NBT. I assume these will all be wiped and reset to factory defaults after VO coding that ECU?
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i did this to my car as soon as I got it, one of the best things ive done to the car.
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I am very excited to discover this thread. Does anyone know if this also works on US 2014 F10s? I'd love to have the sport steering wihout the throttle and tranmission settings. My current workaround is put the traction control into DTC mode (which has the side effect of making the steering heavier too). Not the best idea from a safety standpoint and when my wife is in the car she gets upset about it.

And since i"ve never VO coded (only FDL coded before), I have a question: I gather that one of the things VO coding does is to automatically set individual parameters in the ECUs according to the options and build date. Of course, you could in theory do this manually with FDL coding. But is there more to it than that? In other words, if you did a "diff" of the CAFD files before and after changing the build date, and then manually FDL coded the relevant params, would it be the same? Or is changing the build date mandatory to get certain features to work (such as this).

Also, I have FDL coded a few settings in HU_NBT. I assume these will all be wiped and reset to factory defaults after VO coding that ECU?
You could figure out the difference, yes, but I have no idea what parameters it changes when you change the build date, which is why I just did the VO coding vs FDL. For all I know the 2015 build date just allows it to work when coded to the FEM_Body? I honestly have no idea but I suppose it wouldn't be hard to compare the original to the 2015 VO coded version.
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UNless I'm misunderstanding you should be able to achieve this by selecting "drivetrain only" from the configure sport mode screen. that should give you the transmission and throttle response of sport mode with the lighter steering. And of course if you dont care about the sport mode throttle you can simply move the gear lever to the left in comfort mode to get the "sport" transmission shift points.

The one thing that isn't achievable is to have sport throttle only since they bundle throttle and transmission settings together under drivetrain. Personally i'm ok with that since i can't stand the sport throttle setting.
But you should be able to achieve:
-steering only (by sleecting chassis only)
-tranmssion only (using gear lever)
-Steering, trans and throttle (all)
-Steering and trans (chassis only + gear lever to left)
-trans and throttle only (drivetrain)
Yeah that's true. But there are 4 variables if you have adaptive m-sport suspension. Dampers will stiffen up on sport mode also. So the combo that I'm missing is :

- comfort steering
- sport suspension
- sport or comfort transmission mode
- sport or comfort throttle response mode

I had E90 M3 and in M-Drive settings you were able to tune all of these as you wish. F80 must have that same menu. I guess software is pretty much the same on F80 and F30.. it just could be possible somehow. Maybe even enable M-Drive menu?
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Yeah that's true. But there are 4 variables if you have adaptive m-sport suspension. Dampers will stiffen up on sport mode also. So the combo that I'm missing is :

- comfort steering
- sport suspension
- sport or comfort transmission mode
- sport or comfort throttle response mode

I had E90 M3 and in M-Drive settings you were able to tune all of these as you wish. F80 must have that same menu. I guess software is pretty much the same on F80 and F30.. it just could be possible somehow. Maybe even enable M-Drive menu?
You could enable the MDrive menu but I'm 99.99% sure it won't work at all.
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You could enable the MDrive menu but I'm 99.99% sure it won't work at all.
Oh yeah, forgot that you need to have the M-button in steering wheel to use it. That menu is kind of worthless without that
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Yeah that's true. But there are 4 variables if you have adaptive m-sport suspension. Dampers will stiffen up on sport mode also. So the combo that I'm missing is :

- comfort steering
- sport suspension
- sport or comfort transmission mode
- sport or comfort throttle response mode

I had E90 M3 and in M-Drive settings you were able to tune all of these as you wish. F80 must have that same menu. I guess software is pretty much the same on F80 and F30.. it just could be possible somehow. Maybe even enable M-Drive menu?

Ah very true. It is kind of silly that they don't offer a true individual setting mode on non-M cars. I believe Audi and Mercedes do.

I drove an e90 M3 once and really liked being able to control all 4 parameters separately.
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