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      07-13-2017, 03:13 PM   #1
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Apps in Motion Australia

Hey Guys,

In Australia, BMW apps doesn't work in motion, making it useless.
In the US it does work in motion.
I think its also a problem in Hong Kong too.

Their is almost no information on this problem anywhere on the forums
From all I have found so far, the CIC and Combox hardware and software is identical to the US.
Just some different regional settings.
Given this, you would think it would just be a setting that could be changed.

The only other information I have come across is that a settings/XML file is written to the Hard Drive in the vehicle which stops this working.
From what I can gather, you can get access to the hard drive in a CIC vehicle over telnet

Any ideas?
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      07-13-2017, 07:03 PM   #2
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My earlier CIC works (2012 E92 335) but my NBT does not work. I have tried to use 'service in motion' from binmertech to activate BMW apps but it doesn't unlock it.

I do want this feature but seems not many people ask about this
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      07-13-2017, 11:22 PM   #3
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My earlier CIC works (2012 E92 335) but my NBT does not work. I have tried to use 'service in motion' from binmertech to activate BMW apps but it doesn't unlock it.

I do want this feature but seems not many people ask about this
What version of I drive to you have in the E92 and your NBT car?
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      07-13-2017, 11:38 PM   #4
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My earlier CIC works (2012 E92 335) but my NBT does not work. I have tried to use 'service in motion' from binmertech to activate BMW apps but it doesn't unlock it.

I do want this feature but seems not many people ask about this
What version of I drive to you have in the E92 and your NBT car?
Versions? My E92 is MY2012 and F30 is MY16.
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      07-15-2017, 10:50 AM   #5
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Just trying to determine if thier is any difference in CIC for a 2010 MY11
and CIC for E92 MY12
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      07-16-2017, 06:14 PM   #6
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My earlier CIC works (2012 E92 335) but my NBT does not work. I have tried to use 'service in motion' from binmertech
Yes Bimmertech don't seem to know this one.
Are you talking just Apps or connected drive on your E92?
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      07-17-2017, 01:51 AM   #7
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My earlier CIC works (2012 E92 335) but my NBT does not work. I have tried to use 'service in motion' from binmertech
Yes Bimmertech don't seem to know this one.
Are you talking just Apps or connected drive on your E92?
I'm talking about BMW apps only. Connected drive is a general term that contains many services, BMW apps is one of them. For E9X CIC only some services can be activated, so yeah I'm taking about BMW apps. After activating bmw apps, my E92 can run BMW apps no matter car is in motion or static. When it comes to F30, once D is engaged or hand brake is released, BMW apps becomes inactivate.

Bimmertech has no idea about this because US NBT doesn't have this restriction. What I'm surprising is, with so many Australian F chassis owners here, there seems no one care about this feature....
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Bimmertech has no idea about this because US NBT doesn't have this restriction. What I'm surprising is, with so many Australian F chassis owners here, there seems no one care about this feature....
The only reason I don't care is that I didn't bother using them give the restrictions and don't know what I am missing.

My research indicates the same as yours. There was some indication that you can update the XML file via a map of firmware update but no positive confirmation that it has been done on NBT - presumably encrypted.
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      07-20-2017, 07:58 AM   #9
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The only reason I don't care is that I didn't bother using them give the restrictions and don't know what I am missing.

My research indicates the same as yours. There was some indication that you can update the XML file via a map of firmware update but no positive confirmation that it has been done on NBT - presumably encrypted.
Interesting that it works on a 2012 E92 with CIC
And yet all the F10's with CIC it doesn't.

These are the questions I think we need answers to.

Is the US hardware that it works on identical to the AUS hardware.
Is CIC Combox and NBT identical in AUS?
I'll see if I can check some part numbers just to make sure.

Is the Apps software identical in US and AUS?
Don't know how to check this

What is this XML settings file?
I may remove my hard drive and find a way to read the file system

How to write to the encrypted XML file in NBT?
Don't know this one either

What is the difference between a 2012 E92 with CIC and a 2012 F10 with CIC?

If anyone else has any input feel free to add
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      07-20-2017, 08:10 AM   #10
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Looks like hard drive has a QNX file system
Should be able to get it out and read it with some linux distro.
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      07-23-2017, 08:46 AM   #11
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Looks like hard drive has a QNX file system
Should be able to get it out and read it with some linux distro.
Long thread but about 2/3 along it outlines how to mount the NBT drive on QNX and they have worked out how to derive the HDD HW level password: http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/arc.../t-787230.html
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      07-27-2017, 09:18 PM   #12
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Long thread but about 2/3 along it outlines how to mount the NBT drive on QNX and they have worked out how to derive the HDD HW level password: http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/arc.../t-787230.html
I've seen that thread. Very interesting
I'm going to get the hard drive out of my car soon and take a look at the contents.
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Bump.

I also have this problem with "BMW Apps" not working in motion and would like to know if there's a work around.
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