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      12-05-2017, 03:06 PM   #1
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does this make sense?

bought a 2012 f30 recently and the dealer claims he put a new flywheel and clutch in the car before I bought it but the clutch feels off to me, like you can feel the flywheel rotating when the clutch is engaged. He provided me with the receipt of when he purchased the items to fit to the car today to prove he at least bought them, the receipt reads:

1 CD415047710 DMF BMW 320-520TD'10>
1 CD624377800 C KIT 520D 09>

now my question is, does a 520d 09> kit fit my car? I know parts exist in lots of models so its possible but does anyone know for sure?

googling the parts codes yields no results
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      12-05-2017, 05:09 PM   #2
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Go to RealOEM.com and check part numbers for the different cars.

But, what do you mean you think you can "feel the flywheel rotating when the clutch is engaged"? You mean the clutch is slipping? Clutch slip is easy to feel and will slip most in the highest gear (6th). If the clutch is slipping at all and you floor the accelerator in 6th the revs should shoot right up.
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when i accelerate through the gears the clutch feels rough, like its pushing against something, almost gritty, definitely not how a 'new' clutch and flywheel should be behaving
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      12-05-2017, 06:11 PM   #4
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If the dealer did replace the clutch and flywheel I hope they weren't letting people test drive it without an adequately bedding them first. Test drives tend to have a lot more slipping of the clutch than an average drive, and that's a great way to glaze a fresh assembly. If you're experiencing slip in the scenario jnecr laid out, I hope the dealer honors their work and fixes this for you.

As for your part numbers, they are legitimate LuK numbers, you just need to remove the CD from the beginning.

Flywheel

Clutch
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Maybe something was installed incorrectly.
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      12-06-2017, 05:12 AM   #6
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Interestingly when I google the flywheel and clutch number, it says that it doesn't fit my 320d f30.

would this be a factor in what I'm feeling? I can't see how it wouldn't be
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Interestingly when I google the flywheel and clutch number, it says that it doesn't fit my 320d f30.

would this be a factor in what I'm feeling? I can't see how it wouldn't be
That is very interesting that they aren't associated...
I checked RealOEM.com as well and it shows the proper BMW 320d Clutch kit numbers as either 21 20 8 631 809 or 21 20 7 635 808, neither are listed on the OE part number references on the LuK part you have on your invoice.

Per your order sheet, and checking the numbers, they must have assumed compatibility between the 520d and 320d clutch kits. What the difference in the parts are, I don't know... BUT they sure have different and unassociated numbers, which means they ordered and installed the incorrect part. The flywheel on your invoice is the correct one, however, with the symptoms you're describing, the surface may be shot after mating to the incorrect clutch.

You should prepare something to illustrate that the clutch part numbers are not correct, and assert your symptoms are related to that. This should be more than enough reason for the dealer to order the correct parts and replace them at their cost. This is a bad screw up on their part.

Here is what they SHOULD have installed:

Clutch Kit

Spitballing, but I think this may come down to the fact that LuK has no entry for the 320d in their online catalog. The closest model in there is the 328d, which uses the clutch kit on your invoice. Hope this helps.
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yeah bit more digging revealed that the flywheel is right the kit is not

called him up and he's gonna talk to the guy who provided the parts tomorrow.

I feel like I'm legally in my right to press the matter so i intend to

I'll keep you guys updated, special thanks to MacklinUSOB
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yeah bit more digging revealed that the flywheel is right the kit is not

called him up and he's gonna talk to the guy who provided the parts tomorrow.

I feel like I'm legally in my right to press the matter so i intend to

I'll keep you guys updated, special thanks to MacklinUSOB
No problem dude, sorry it's stopping you from enjoying your new ride.
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after a long phone call and four emails of proof, including confirmation from LUK themselves, the dealer has agreed to supply and fit the correct clutch kit.

hope the flywheel isn't in bits now
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after a long phone call and four emails of proof, including confirmation from LUK themselves, the dealer has agreed to supply and fit the correct clutch kit.

hope the flywheel isn't in bits now
I would definitely demand a new flywheel. Clearly something is wrong and it's unlikely that the flywheel wasn't damaged.
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after a long phone call and four emails of proof, including confirmation from LUK themselves, the dealer has agreed to supply and fit the correct clutch kit.

hope the flywheel isn't in bits now
I would definitely demand a new flywheel. Clearly something is wrong and it's unlikely that the flywheel wasn't damaged.
OP, glad you're finding resolution.

I would have to agree with you there, at the very very least it should be refinished if it is salvageable. From OP's symptoms, I would be amazed if it hasn't been scored to hell already. If the new clutch is mated to the scored flywheel, it very well could still have the same roughness on top of accelerated clutch wear.
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I wouldn't take anybody's word about the condition. After they get the transmission out, I would like to see and run my hand over the flywheel
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