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      12-23-2017, 04:26 PM   #2069
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Where to negotiate?

Please help me figure out where I have room to negotiate
I have the first pricing offer from the dealer for a loaded 2018 330 x drive, and I know I need to negotiate some things, but I am not sure where:

MSRP: 56,370
Discount: 3,069
Rebate: 4,500
Additional Discount: 750
Transportation: 750 (coming from out of state)
Total Purchase: 48,801
Tax (Colorado) 401.62
Title 37.20
Acquisition Fee: 925
Net Price: 50,164.82
Residual: 61%
MF: .00182 (this seems pretty high, I have Tier 1 credit)
I will be getting out of my lease 5 months early
10K miles per year
36 month lease, $0 down, 659/month, $2000 down/ 595 month, $4000 down/ 534 month

I did see the original build sheet on the car, which lists the net total for the car as $54,210 and a suggested price of $55,205.

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      12-23-2017, 07:26 PM   #2070
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Please help me figure out where I have room to negotiate
I have the first pricing offer from the dealer for a loaded 2018 330 x drive, and I know I need to negotiate some things, but I am not sure where:

MSRP: 56,370
Discount: 3,069
Rebate: 4,500
Additional Discount: 750
Transportation: 750 (coming from out of state)
Total Purchase: 48,801
Tax (Colorado) 401.62
Title 37.20
Acquisition Fee: 925
Net Price: 50,164.82
Residual: 61%
MF: .00182 (this seems pretty high, I have Tier 1 credit)
I will be getting out of my lease 5 months early
10K miles per year
36 month lease, $0 down, 659/month, $2000 down/ 595 month, $4000 down/ 534 month

I did see the original build sheet on the car, which lists the net total for the car as $54,210 and a suggested price of $55,205.

Any comments appreciated!
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What options/packages does this 330 have. I feel like that msrp is well into 340 range. I got the same discount on a 59k 340 with less rebates. And my monthly is 627 with 1185 down. Definitely get that MF down to the base rate. Only put down 1st month and dmv!
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      12-24-2017, 06:19 PM   #2071
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Hi -

Question: if eligible Manufacture Rebate was not applied in initial quote and brought to CA's attention within a few days while still valid, I'm assuming that it can still be applied? I've e-mailed my CA about the ommission but he hasn't gotten back to me yet.

Looking over website discovered also eligible for $750 Loyalty rebate as a current BMW owner. Dealer was aware of this as 1) originally purchased from them and 2) received appraisal for it's trade-in. Have just received VIN# so assuming "locked in" on below quote and current rebate/financing (purchasing, not leasing) but final numbers still contingent on actual miles/condition at trade-in, or if I sell current BMW privately.

[1/4/18 FOLLOW UP: checked in on my CA, and he's either a bit spacey or holiday fatigued; he forgot about my deposit check (which I helped him find in his file for me ... and he still has not deposited) but he noted need to add the Loyalty rebate and call me when production is finished and shipping ETA ready to set up PCD.]

FYI: here's my deal on just ordered F36 with PCD delivery expected in March 2018. Dealer provided paperwork cost breakdown/financing quote w/current appraised trade-in using another car VIN/description as surrogate which I initialed, along with Vehicle Inquiry Report including Production # and actual spec's.

Car: 440i xDrive Gran Coupe
Color: Snapper Rocks Blue/Night Blue Dakota
Pkgs: M sport, Premium, Executive, Essentials
Options: Adaptive M suspension, Heated steering wheel, Active active blind spot, Apple CarPlay, Dynamic Digital Instrument
MSRP (excl. dest & hand): $62,190
Discount: $3,109
Rebates: $2,000
Adjusted price: $57,081

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      12-25-2017, 11:50 PM   #2072
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About to purchase a 2018 430i m sport sticker at about 54k.... what you be a good price in Florida?
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      01-03-2018, 11:15 AM   #2073
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while we are still waiting for Jan residuals to come out, here are some incentives that are out now

2018 all 4 series including M 2000$ lease credit
2018 all 4 series including M 750$ lease/apr loyalty credit

2018 all 3 series including M (not 330e) 2000$ lease credit
2018 all 3 series including M (not 330e) 750$ lease/apr credit
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      01-03-2018, 11:30 AM   #2074
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while we are still waiting for Jan residuals to come out, here are some incentives that are out now

2018 all 4 series including M 2000$ lease credit
2018 all 4 series including M 750$ lease/apr loyalty credit

2018 all 3 series including M (not 330e) 2000$ lease credit
2018 all 3 series including M (not 330e) 750$ lease/apr credit
GOLFFRR,

Has the program changed for i3 this month?
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      01-03-2018, 11:32 AM   #2075
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Has the program changed for i3 this month?
dont want to get this thread off topic
but we are still waiting for programing (jan) to come out but I see a 7500 lease credit for those and 2k loyalty
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      01-03-2018, 12:57 PM   #2076
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2018 Models
January
36mo

All 3 series including m

36mo
15k 58%
12k 60%
10k 61%

All 4 series including M

15k 54%
12k 56%
10k 57%

2018 all 4 series including M 2000$ lease credit
2018 all 4 series including M 750$ lease/apr loyalty credit

2018 all 3 series including M (not 330e) 2000$ lease credit
2018 all 3 series including M (not 330e) 750$ lease/apr credit
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      01-03-2018, 06:26 PM   #2077
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CPO 2017 330i

Dealer Location: North Atlanta
Year/Model: 2017 330i (used 10,000K miles)
MSRP: $51,045
Options/Packages: M Sport, Cold Weather, Premium Pkg, Navigation, Driver Assistance Pkg.
Cash Down: $5,500
Negotiated Price: $31,998 (including fees)
Monthly Payment: $299.99
Other Pertinent Information: Financed with BMW Select. I told the dealer I wanted to be at 299 a month, they worked with me as much as possible to make it happen. Car has 5 year unlimited mile warranty... 4yr/50k miles+1 yr/unlim miles
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      01-04-2018, 10:55 AM   #2078
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It doesn't seem like a bad deal but this thread is really for new car purchases. It's hard to gauge the deal on used cars since there are so many more variables.
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      01-05-2018, 11:47 AM   #2079
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Just picked this up over the weekend. 330x
MSRP $50,785
Sale Price $46,690
incentive ttl $6,000
TTL cap cost $40,690
MF .00152
Res 61%
36/10K
Taxes up front, monthly $380.
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      01-05-2018, 02:50 PM   #2080
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Just picked this up over the weekend. 330x
MSRP $50,785
Sale Price $46,690
incentive ttl $6,000
TTL cap cost $40,690
MF .00152
Res 61%
36/10K
Taxes up front, monthly $380.
What made up the $6k in incentives?
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      01-05-2018, 05:58 PM   #2081
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What made up the $6k in incentives?
There was a sweepstakes page on the BMWUSA page. I think it was on a members benefits page. You could enter to win a 3 night stay at several resorts. When I entered I got an email with a code saying a thousand welcomes. Used it for 1K, $500 fleet, $3,500 Holiday incentive, $1,500 loyalty. I would suggest anyone getting a BMW ask the dealer to check for you. I am retired and never thought to ask. Dealer asked and told me I was eligible.
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      02-01-2018, 12:15 PM   #2082
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All 4 series including M

15k 54%
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10k 57%
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      02-04-2018, 09:56 PM   #2083
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Closed this deal last week on a loaner F31 330ix Wagon

MSRP: [$52,105]
Selling Price: [$38,987] (25% off MSRP before rebate)
Rebates: [$3000 BMW Lease Credit] (didnít qualify for anything else)
Additional Fees: [$925 Accq Fee, $215 Doc]
Total Cap Cost: [$36,692]
Residual: [$34,106 after mileage adjustment]

Months: [24]
Annual Mileage: [10,000]

MF: [0.00152] (negotiated down from 0.00192)
Residual: [67% minus $803.75 for mileage adjustment] (3,715 miles on loaner)

Security Deposit: [$0]
Total Due At Signing: [$700, includes first month payment]
Monthly Payment (excl. tax): [$216]
Monthly Payment (incl tax): [$265] (8% + $703 registration/PPT rolled into the monthly)

Leasehackr Score: [18.9 years]

BMW CCA Rebate: [$250]

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      02-20-2018, 12:46 PM   #2084
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2018 Models
february
36mo

All 3 series including m

36mo
15k 58%
12k 60%
10k 61%

All 4 series including M

15k 54%
12k 56%
10k 57%

Still no love on the 4'er but doesn't matter my 3'er in in production...
What's the incentives this month?

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2018 Models
february
36mo

All 3 series including m

36mo
15k 58%
12k 60%
10k 61%

All 4 series including M

15k 54%
12k 56%
10k 57%

Still no love on the 4'er but doesn't matter my 3'er in in production...
What's the incentives this month?

THANKS!!
How did you get all that info:
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      02-27-2018, 08:41 PM   #2086
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My lease is up in July, and I just talked to my dealer about a pull-ahead. They claim that BMWFS has not released a pull ahead program for 2018. Is that correct? Does that mean I'll have to wait until my lease ends to then negotiate a new lease? lol
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My lease is up in July, and I just talked to my dealer about a pull-ahead. They claim that BMWFS has not released a pull ahead program for 2018. Is that correct? Does that mean I'll have to wait until my lease ends to then negotiate a new lease? lol
Hey I work for bmw and it is true there is no pull ahead as of now, some dealers will still wave up to $1,500 worth of payments. Some
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      03-01-2018, 01:25 PM   #2088
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All 4 series including M

15k 54%
12k 56%
10k 57%

looks like everything stayed the same
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My lease is up in July, and I just talked to my dealer about a pull-ahead. They claim that BMWFS has not released a pull ahead program for 2018. Is that correct? Does that mean I'll have to wait until my lease ends to then negotiate a new lease? lol
with all pull ahead info its best to contact your dealer direct with your vin number and current mileage. They will be able to give you the correct answer for your specific situation
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with all pull ahead info its best to contact your dealer direct with your vin number and current mileage. They will be able to give you the correct answer for your specific situation
Thanks. How does that typically work? Is there a good chance I will have a pull ahead offer (?) if I'm 4 months out?
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