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      12-27-2017, 02:27 AM   #1563
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All that power and I will still be unhappy....

Because BMW will make the 3 series bigger yet.
The M2 is the new M3. Get that one if you want a smaller size.
Except for the whole it's not special and has a terrible engine thing
Geez everyone has something to complain about. The M4 exhaust sounds terrible and the size of the car is tooo big. So Bmw makes the M2. Oh now the engine is not special.

I don't think you all will ever be totally satisfied cause you're (not you specifically I'm not calling you out just generally speaking) too used to complaining about something that you can't get satisfied with anything BMW makes.
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      12-27-2017, 09:51 AM   #1564
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All that power and I will still be unhappy....

Because BMW will make the 3 series bigger yet.
The M2 is the new M3. Get that one if you want a smaller size.
Except for the whole it's not special and has a terrible engine thing
Geez everyone has something to complain about. The M4 exhaust sounds terrible and the size of the car is tooo big. So Bmw makes the M2. Oh now the engine is not special.

I don't think you all will ever be totally satisfied cause you're (not you specifically I'm not calling you out just generally speaking) too used to complaining about something that you can't get satisfied with anything BMW makes.
The M4 and the M2 both stink IMO. Why I went back to an e92 after owning an F82 for 3 years. Test drive the M2 before coming back. The engine, rear end styling and crappy interior were the killers for me. Sent me back to the e series. BMW has lost their way with the new cars.
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      12-28-2017, 11:05 AM   #1565
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Yeah, not sure where it will end. The market demands more HP with each rendition, as well as lower 0-60 times. Car manufacturers all play the game to keep up, with BMW being arguably slightly slower than MB or Audi to bow to market pressures (at least with their M cars). Any number of inexpensive modern cars can beat my E39 M5 and Z4M coupe to 60 mph these days, but my older Ms are so fun to drive because you can actually use a lot of their power in daily driving. Not so much with my F80, between how powerful it is and the need to not go sideways on the street! The F80 is a fun car, but to really understand it you almost have to be on a track.

Sure, I want a modern version of the E39 M5 for my next DD - it would be lighter due to aluminum and composite carbon, MT only (hah!), RWD, 400 hp, 370 lb ft, normally aspirated. A last hurrah, then, before electric cars take over the earth (and I have to admit, I DO worry about pollution). Unfortunately, I'd probably be the only buyer...
You want a modern version of the e39 M5? Look no further than the Chevy SS. And they stopped making them a few months ago. Also, people and cops will ignore it, because they all think you are driving a rental Malibu. A true "wolf in sheep's clothing", just like the original M5
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      12-30-2017, 10:17 AM   #1566
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Motor Authority is reporting that the US 540d (which, as has been discussed before, is really the 530d sold in other parts of the world) is finally coming in February. As yndulgyn predicted, this will be AWD only, at least at launch.
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Motor Authority is reporting that the US 540d (which, as has been discussed before, is really the 530d sold in other parts of the world) is finally coming in February. As yndulgyn predicted, this will be AWD only, at least at launch.
It's already on fueleconomy.gov.

http://fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=39820
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That’s good news too, but to my knowledge there is no way to determine a vehicle’s release date based on when that info appears. The Motor Authority report was the first I’d seen of an actual release date.
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That┬’s good news too, but to my knowledge there is no way to determine a vehicle┬’s release date based on when that info appears. The Motor Authority report was the first I┬’d seen of an actual release date.
Sooner than later, I'd guess, as I've seen in the past where fuel economy figures for cars already on sale aren't yet listed on the site. I wonder if they'll surprise us with an announcement at NAIAS.
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      01-12-2018, 02:00 PM   #1571
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I have a 540D that is slated to be built in Feb.
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I have a 540D that is slated to be built in Feb.
How do you do that, it's not on BMW USA build your own site?
Does anyone have an update when the Z4 is on sale in USA?
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Expect G02 PR any day now.
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Expect G02 PR any day now.
F87 PR too this month?
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