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That’s a very good number for XM.
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Independently, i think the sales numbers clearly show that BMWs design, branding and target market shift is working out well for them and consumers are responding positively by buying the new-style BMWs more and leaving the old-style ones on the lot.
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I4 35s and 40s are a hot seller especially with a 7,500 credit on lease it’s the cheapest payment you can basically get on a lease. Bmw counts them as 4 series since it’s the same frame.
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I get it, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all. BMW styling has taken a dramatic shift in the past several years to include giant aggressive grills and angles, over the top M performance parts (which many have voiced as extremely tacky on this forum, not just my opinion ). In addition, just look at their advertising videos. It’s clear they market to our “look at me, I’m important” world. Just look around you. People don’t have compassion and respect for each other, it’s all about self. Now get off my lawn (I’ve turned into my father 😱.
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It’s so strange how I hated the 4 series front grill (like most) when it was first released but now I absolutely love it. Wonder how that works.
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I said may be its not the grilles and look at you got all upset. Chill out dude, no one is taking away your car or your right to like it.
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Is it though? It seems like a lot of XM’s are selling with discounts despite just coming out on the market. We’ve already seen numerous $10k discounts on the forums. Competitors like the Range Rover, RSQ8, and G-Wagon seem to be in greater demand and still getting MSRP or more despite being out longer.
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I don’t disagree nor blame them. In fact, that’s the point. Modern society is all about “self”, the design cues, in my opinion, market towards that.
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I wonder how much of some of these "surprising" results are a result of supply, not demand? I'm in North Florida, and when I was looking for new BMW's early this year I could not find much at all in the 3 or 5 series range nicely loaded or anything M. Also X4's and X6's were non existent. I had to go 6 hours away, down to Orlando and up to Atlanta to find anything in stock to test drive. All the dealers I talked to said they were not getting allocations for X6's and the only way to get an M340, M550 was to special order one when ever they got an allocation. This might just be what was happening in my area, but if some of these were hard to get, then it would definitely affect the sales numbers to reflect availability more than actual demand.
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Looked at probably 20 dealers inventories in the last few weeks searching for a new X1. One thing that stood out to me: electric cars, at every dealer, making up 75-90% of their new inventory. Seems to be a market trend as most manufacturers seemed to have ignored customer data and instead got sucked into the hype machine. Good luck to them with lots full of cars that most mainstream customers did not ask for.
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BMW + Mini killed Benz including vans YTD 2023 sales result.
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