Bought CPO F30 6MT...Problems begin...advice?!

lucasszy · 08-31-2015, 02:30 PM

I wont name dealerships quite yet!

Two weeks ago I bought a beautiful 2012 Melbourne red 328 Sedan with pretty much all the options.

6MT Sportsline with a black leather interior.

LOVE THIS CAR.

When I picked the car up, I noticed a few paint chips on a few spots, but nothing to bad. I drove the car home 75 miles, and immediately got a message that brakes need servicing.

"WTF" I said to myself. Its CPO, it should have been checked.

I complained to the selling dealer, only to get told that all services are included in the remaining warranty... a bit of a pain to have to deal with it, but I made the appointment with my local dealership thats taken care of my E60 before.

Before the appointment date, I had a couple more error messages come up.

Oil service needed.
Front camera error and malfunction
Key Fob error (engine wont start)
lane departure system errors

get to my local dealer and the first thing they tell me.
We wont cover the camera or lane departure error, AS YOU HAVE A NON BMW windshield AND the front bumper was a respray and it was done poorly. All this interferes with those two systems. Sorry!

"Damn, WTF kind of happy BS is that?" I say to myself.

My local dealer has been good to work with, and I left the car this morning with them. They'll call and let me know what BMW can do for me. They did mention that a selling dealer should have done all the services, as well as picked up on the NON BMW glass.

Question? Has anyone bought a CPO car, still in original warranty, and had it sold with NON BMW glass? Which seems to be interfering with the camera?

Called BMWNA and they've been really good to talk to.

First question was: "Do you want us to buy the car back, or fix it and get all the right parts on it?

So... what do I do? If it was in an accident and had a bad respray, I dont think I want the car.... otherwise?

What about the glass? Was the selling dealer in the wrong by selling me a car that doesnt meet BMW specs?

Depending on how this goes, I'll start calling dealerships out on the problems.

Problem... There are so few F30 6MT cars out there, that finding another will not be possible. Let alone with all the Msport options and everything else my car has.

IndotagSwizz · 08-31-2015, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucasszy

I wont name dealerships quite yet!

Two weeks ago I bought a beautiful 2012 Melbourne red 328 Sedan with pretty much all the options.

6MT Sportsline with a black leather interior.

LOVE THIS CAR.

When I picked the car up, I noticed a few paint chips on a few spots, but nothing to bad. I drove the car home 75 miles, and immediately got a message that brakes need servicing.

"WTF" I said to myself. Its CPO, it should have been checked.

I complained to the selling dealer, only to get told that all services are included in the remaining warranty... a bit of a pain to have to deal with it, but I made the appointment with my local dealership thats taken care of my E60 before.

Before the appointment date, I had a couple more error messages come up.

Oil service needed.
Front camera error and malfunction
Key Fob error (engine wont start)
lane departure system errors

get to my local dealer and the first thing they tell me.
We wont cover the camera or lane departure error, AS YOU HAVE A NON BMW windshield AND the front bumper was a respray and it was done poorly. All this interferes with those two systems. Sorry!

"Damn, WTF kind of happy BS is that?" I say to myself.

My local dealer has been good to work with, and I left the car this morning with them. They'll call and let me know what BMW can do for me. They did mention that a selling dealer should have done all the services, as well as picked up on the NON BMW glass.

Question? Has anyone bought a CPO car, still in original warranty, and had it sold with NON BMW glass? Which seems to be interfering with the camera?

Called BMWNA and they've been really good to talk to.

First question was: "Do you want us to buy the car back, or fix it and get all the right parts on it?

So... what do I do? If it was in an accident and had a bad respray, I dont think I want the car.... otherwise?

What about the glass? Was the selling dealer in the wrong by selling me a car that doesnt meet BMW specs?

Depending on how this goes, I'll start calling dealerships out on the problems.

Problem... There are so few F30 6MT cars out there, that finding another will not be possible. Let alone with all the Msport options and everything else my car has.

I know you love the car but too many things going wrong too soon, smells like a lemon get rid of it asap, I'm sure all of this can be sorted out but it seems like a really bad start I would ask BMW to buy the car back

lucasszy · 08-31-2015, 03:02 PM

My concerns are about the respray being a result of an undocumented accident. Which makes me wonder about the selling dealership and their "inspection."

Second, the glass is a crazy big item to miss, and have to fix.

How is the buyback experience from a BMW perspective? Is BMWNA good to deal with?

The car is still under warranty, active CPO, and Carfax buyback certified.

I hope to god that I dont have to deal with this kind of crap from the start.

SIGH!!!

lucasszy · 08-31-2015, 03:07 PM

More details about my car:

Can anyone tell me what the 903 code at the end of the whole list means?

Vehicle information

VIN long WBA3A5C51CFJ89514

Type code 3A5C

Type 328I (USA)

Dev. series F30 ()

Line 3

Body type LIM

Steering LL

Door count 4

Engine N20

Cubical capacity 2.00

Power 180

Transmision HECK

Gearbox MECH

Colour MELBOURNEROT METALLIC (A75)

Upholstery LEDER DAKOTA/SCHWARZ/AKZENT ROT (LCL3)

Prod. date 2011-10-19

Order options
No. Description
2A5 18"LT/ALY WHEELS DOUBLE SPOKE 397

2VB TYRE PRESSURE INDICATOR

2VF ADAPTIV M SUSPENSION

2VL VARIABLE SPORTS STEERING

248 STEERING WHEEL HEATING

255 SPORTS LEATHER STEERING WHEEL

3AG BACKUP CAMERA

3BE MIRROR CAPS BLACK

3DZ WITHOUT ADDITIONAL DESIGNATION OUTS

319 INTEGRATED UNIVERSAL REMOTE CONTROL

322 COMFORT ACCESS SYSTEM

4AT INT.TR.FINI. BLACK HIGH-GLOSS

4DN HIGH.TRIM FIN. CORAL RED MATT

403 GLAS ROOF, ELECTRIC

430 INT/EXT RR VW MIRROR W AUT ANTI-DAZZLE

431 INTERIOR RR VW MIRROR W AUT ANTI-D

459 SEAT ADJUSTM., ELECTR. W. MEMORY

465 THROUGH-LOAD SYSTEM

481 SPORT SEATS F DRIVER/FRONT PASSENGER

488 LUMBAR SUPPORT DRIVER/FRONT PASSENGER

493 STORAGE COMPARTMENT PACKAGE

494 SEAT HEATING F DRIVER/FRONT PASSENGER

5AC AUTOM. HIGH-BEAM HEADLIGHTS CONTROL

5AD LANE DEVIATION WARNING

5AG LANE CHANGE WARNING

5AP DECODING FOR NO-DAZZLE HIGH-BEAM AS

5DP PARK ASSISTANT

508 PARK DISTANCE CONTROL (PDC)

521 RAIN SENSOR

522 XENON LIGHT

524 ADAPTIVE HEADLIGHTS

534 AUTOMATIC AIR CONDITIONING

563 LIGHTS PACKAGE

575 ADDITIONAL 12V POWER SOCKET

6AA BMW TELESERVICES

6AB CONTROL TELESERVICES

6NF EXT.CON.OF THE MUSIC PLAY.I.MOBILPH

6NL CONNECT. BLUETOOTH A.USB DEVICES IN

6NR APPS

6UH TRAFFIC INFORMATION

6VA CIC CONTROL

6WA INSTRUMENT CLUSTER W. EXTENDED CONT

609 NAVIGATION SYSTEM PROFESSIONAL

610 HEAD UP DISPLAY

615 EXTENDED BMW ONLINE INFORMATION

655 SATELLITE RADIO

688 HARMAN/KARDON SURROUND SOUND SYSTEM

697 AREA-CODE 1

7AC SPORT LINE

775 INDIVIDUAL ROOF-LINING ANTHRACITE

8KC OELSERVICEINT. 24.000KM/24MONTHS

8SC COUNTRY SPEC. RELEASE OF TELESERVICE

8S4 DECODING VARIABLE LIGHT DISTRIBUTIO

8TN DAYTIME DRIVING LIGHTS SELECTABLE B

840 HIGH SPEED SYNCHRONISATION

903 SPECIAL CHECK TRADE FAIR/PHOTO VEHICLE

nicknaz · 08-31-2015, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucasszy

Called BMWNA and they've been really good to talk to.

First question was: "Do you want us to buy the car back, or fix it and get all the right parts on it?
.

Personally, I'd get the buyback and try again on another car

Best of luck!

lucasszy · 08-31-2015, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicknaz

Personally, I'd get the buyback and try again on another car

Best of luck!

Now what if I could get them to extend the FULL 4/50 to cover the CPO range? Which would take it out to 2019 and 100K.

Im just thinking out loud here... even tho I hear that the best bet would be to dump it and get another..... regardless how hard it is to find a CPO 6MT Msport car.

RevToRed · 08-31-2015, 03:29 PM

Walk!

lucasszy · 08-31-2015, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RevToRed

Walk!

The logical part of me says to do that as well.

I need to wait till I hear back from the selling dealer, as well as BMWNA!

Stay tuned!

cmplaya · 08-31-2015, 03:46 PM

Run!

the_phew · 08-31-2015, 04:03 PM

I've read far to many of these CPO horror stories. I honestly believe the dealerships will certify a vehicle without even inspecting it, just because it'll command a higher price if it has "CPO" on the sticker. Besides, if the vehicle is a lemon, it doesn't cost the dealership anything extra; BMW has to pay for all the repairs.

I actually trust a Carmax extended warranty much more than a manufacturer CPO, because the inspection is performed by the same entity that is underwriting the warranty. i.e. Carmax has a financial incentive to make sure the car they warrantied isn't a lemon.

G30 B58 · 08-31-2015, 04:06 PM

Order the car you want. If you can't afford to buy it, then lease the car you want.

ThaiBruin · 08-31-2015, 05:12 PM

How much did you get the car for? It sounds like you probably got a stellar deal that's keeping you from letting BMW buy the car back.

nicknaz · 08-31-2015, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucasszy

Now what if I could get them to extend the FULL 4/50 to cover the CPO range? Which would take it out to 2019 and 100K.

Im just thinking out loud here... even tho I hear that the best bet would be to dump it and get another..... regardless how hard it is to find a CPO 6MT Msport car.

You said it yourself in the OP

Quote:

get to my local dealer and the first thing they tell me.
We wont cover the camera or lane departure error, AS YOU HAVE A NON BMW windshield AND the front bumper was a respray and it was done poorly. All this interferes with those two systems. Sorry!

You already have the existing full warranty and are struggling to get it honored. Not sure why you'd want to sign up for another 4 years of that

Do the buy back, order up the exact car you want and call it a day

auf Deutsch · 08-31-2015, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicknaz

Personally, I'd get the buyback and try again on another car

Best of luck!

Exactly this. The fact you have a first year production F30 could be worrisome also. I smell an endless trail of potential problems beyond the few that have already surfaced.

claykin · 08-31-2015, 06:40 PM

You asked what option code 903 means.

it means your car was used at an exhibition of some sort. Car show, etc..

casualDIYer · 08-31-2015, 07:22 PM

What's the point of a CPO car that clearly wasn't CPO'd? A CPO car carries an almost 2k premium over comparable models sold in the used car market. Something needs to be worked out.

If you really want the car though it may not be all bad. Had the car been in accident i can tell you a respray wouldn't do much. The bumper cover will break in even low speed accidents. Either a crack is hidden or the cover was simply scratched. Windshield needs to be replaced along with oil and brake service. Seems easier to have BMW make the car right rather than a buy back but whatever happens don't give them a penny more for that car.

Boxtyp3 · 08-31-2015, 07:32 PM

Go for the buy back, spec a car you wanted and lease it. There's just too many problems on that car that you won't be able to enjoy it. By the time it was all sorted out and done, there's a new model coming out, you're out if warranty, drastic depreciation for sure. Waste of time and money.

E30toF30 · 08-31-2015, 11:07 PM

Run. No car, as hard ss it is to find us worth it. This sounds like it is just the beginning of what will get worse for you if you keep it.

Sorry to hear about this bad experience with this bmw dealer. Sounds like a dealer everyone should steer clear of.

Heel328 · 08-31-2015, 11:14 PM

More and more F30 6-speeds are finally hitting the used market.

Emilim · 09-01-2015, 01:05 AM

I'd just count my blessings that they offered to buy back the car without a fight, take your money back, and try your luck another time. More F30s are just starting to show up as lease returns so you're bound to find another 6MT if you're patient.

I know it may seem like the problems are fixable and it's tempting to think this is just a hiccup, but the reality is you can no longer trust this car and you will always worry if something else will go wrong.

F32Fleet · 09-01-2015, 06:40 AM

Re spray is probably nothing. It could be just a scratch or bad road rash. Some half@ss repair by the original owner or dealer. Personally I would do a buy back under the assumption that'll really get the selling dealership in trouble. Shame on them for doing a half@ss CPO inspection but it would not surprise me if they knew about the issues and decided not to charge the original owner because he/she was 'a valued customer'.

Golden Arrow · 09-01-2015, 07:28 AM

Unless you have some sentimental attachment to this particular car, take the buy back! It's great that BMWNA is offering to do that.

Sorry that you're going through this. It's supposed to be fun buying a new car for yourself.

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08-31-2015, 02:30 PM	#1
lucasszy Enlisted Member 7 Rep 42 Posts Drives: 2012 F30 Sedan 6MT Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: NorCal iTrader: (0)	Bought CPO F30 6MT...Problems begin...advice?! I wont name dealerships quite yet! Two weeks ago I bought a beautiful 2012 Melbourne red 328 Sedan with pretty much all the options. 6MT Sportsline with a black leather interior. LOVE THIS CAR. When I picked the car up, I noticed a few paint chips on a few spots, but nothing to bad. I drove the car home 75 miles, and immediately got a message that brakes need servicing. "WTF" I said to myself. Its CPO, it should have been checked. I complained to the selling dealer, only to get told that all services are included in the remaining warranty... a bit of a pain to have to deal with it, but I made the appointment with my local dealership thats taken care of my E60 before. Before the appointment date, I had a couple more error messages come up. Oil service needed. Front camera error and malfunction Key Fob error (engine wont start) lane departure system errors get to my local dealer and the first thing they tell me. We wont cover the camera or lane departure error, AS YOU HAVE A NON BMW windshield AND the front bumper was a respray and it was done poorly. All this interferes with those two systems. Sorry! "Damn, WTF kind of happy BS is that?" I say to myself. My local dealer has been good to work with, and I left the car this morning with them. They'll call and let me know what BMW can do for me. They did mention that a selling dealer should have done all the services, as well as picked up on the NON BMW glass. Question? Has anyone bought a CPO car, still in original warranty, and had it sold with NON BMW glass? Which seems to be interfering with the camera? Called BMWNA and they've been really good to talk to. First question was: "Do you want us to buy the car back, or fix it and get all the right parts on it? So... what do I do? If it was in an accident and had a bad respray, I dont think I want the car.... otherwise? What about the glass? Was the selling dealer in the wrong by selling me a car that doesnt meet BMW specs? Depending on how this goes, I'll start calling dealerships out on the problems. Problem... There are so few F30 6MT cars out there, that finding another will not be possible. Let alone with all the Msport options and everything else my car has. Last edited by lucasszy; 08-31-2015 at 02:36 PM..
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lucasszy Enlisted Member 7 Rep 42 Posts Drives: 2012 F30 Sedan 6MT Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: NorCal iTrader: (0)	My concerns are about the respray being a result of an undocumented accident. Which makes me wonder about the selling dealership and their "inspection." Second, the glass is a crazy big item to miss, and have to fix. How is the buyback experience from a BMW perspective? Is BMWNA good to deal with? The car is still under warranty, active CPO, and Carfax buyback certified. I hope to god that I dont have to deal with this kind of crap from the start. SIGH!!!
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lucasszy Enlisted Member 7 Rep 42 Posts Drives: 2012 F30 Sedan 6MT Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: NorCal iTrader: (0)	More details about my car: Can anyone tell me what the 903 code at the end of the whole list means? Vehicle information VIN long WBA3A5C51CFJ89514 Type code 3A5C Type 328I (USA) Dev. series F30 () Line 3 Body type LIM Steering LL Door count 4 Engine N20 Cubical capacity 2.00 Power 180 Transmision HECK Gearbox MECH Colour MELBOURNEROT METALLIC (A75) Upholstery LEDER DAKOTA/SCHWARZ/AKZENT ROT (LCL3) Prod. date 2011-10-19 Order options No. Description 2A5 18"LT/ALY WHEELS DOUBLE SPOKE 397 2VB TYRE PRESSURE INDICATOR 2VF ADAPTIV M SUSPENSION 2VL VARIABLE SPORTS STEERING 248 STEERING WHEEL HEATING 255 SPORTS LEATHER STEERING WHEEL 3AG BACKUP CAMERA 3BE MIRROR CAPS BLACK 3DZ WITHOUT ADDITIONAL DESIGNATION OUTS 319 INTEGRATED UNIVERSAL REMOTE CONTROL 322 COMFORT ACCESS SYSTEM 4AT INT.TR.FINI. BLACK HIGH-GLOSS 4DN HIGH.TRIM FIN. CORAL RED MATT 403 GLAS ROOF, ELECTRIC 430 INT/EXT RR VW MIRROR W AUT ANTI-DAZZLE 431 INTERIOR RR VW MIRROR W AUT ANTI-D 459 SEAT ADJUSTM., ELECTR. W. MEMORY 465 THROUGH-LOAD SYSTEM 481 SPORT SEATS F DRIVER/FRONT PASSENGER 488 LUMBAR SUPPORT DRIVER/FRONT PASSENGER 493 STORAGE COMPARTMENT PACKAGE 494 SEAT HEATING F DRIVER/FRONT PASSENGER 5AC AUTOM. HIGH-BEAM HEADLIGHTS CONTROL 5AD LANE DEVIATION WARNING 5AG LANE CHANGE WARNING 5AP DECODING FOR NO-DAZZLE HIGH-BEAM AS 5DP PARK ASSISTANT 508 PARK DISTANCE CONTROL (PDC) 521 RAIN SENSOR 522 XENON LIGHT 524 ADAPTIVE HEADLIGHTS 534 AUTOMATIC AIR CONDITIONING 563 LIGHTS PACKAGE 575 ADDITIONAL 12V POWER SOCKET 6AA BMW TELESERVICES 6AB CONTROL TELESERVICES 6NF EXT.CON.OF THE MUSIC PLAY.I.MOBILPH 6NL CONNECT. BLUETOOTH A.USB DEVICES IN 6NR APPS 6UH TRAFFIC INFORMATION 6VA CIC CONTROL 6WA INSTRUMENT CLUSTER W. EXTENDED CONT 609 NAVIGATION SYSTEM PROFESSIONAL 610 HEAD UP DISPLAY 615 EXTENDED BMW ONLINE INFORMATION 655 SATELLITE RADIO 688 HARMAN/KARDON SURROUND SOUND SYSTEM 697 AREA-CODE 1 7AC SPORT LINE 775 INDIVIDUAL ROOF-LINING ANTHRACITE 8KC OELSERVICEINT. 24.000KM/24MONTHS 8SC COUNTRY SPEC. RELEASE OF TELESERVICE 8S4 DECODING VARIABLE LIGHT DISTRIBUTIO 8TN DAYTIME DRIVING LIGHTS SELECTABLE B 840 HIGH SPEED SYNCHRONISATION 903 SPECIAL CHECK TRADE FAIR/PHOTO VEHICLE
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the_phew Lieutenant 352 Rep 556 Posts Drives: '17 GTI 6MT, was 320i ZSP/ZMT Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: United States iTrader: (0)	I've read far to many of these CPO horror stories. I honestly believe the dealerships will certify a vehicle without even inspecting it, just because it'll command a higher price if it has "CPO" on the sticker. Besides, if the vehicle is a lemon, it doesn't cost the dealership anything extra; BMW has to pay for all the repairs. I actually trust a Carmax extended warranty much more than a manufacturer CPO, because the inspection is performed by the same entity that is underwriting the warranty. i.e. Carmax has a financial incentive to make sure the car they warrantied isn't a lemon.
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casualDIYer Major 446 Rep 1,369 Posts Drives: 340i xDrive M Sport Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	What's the point of a CPO car that clearly wasn't CPO'd? A CPO car carries an almost 2k premium over comparable models sold in the used car market. Something needs to be worked out. If you really want the car though it may not be all bad. Had the car been in accident i can tell you a respray wouldn't do much. The bumper cover will break in even low speed accidents. Either a crack is hidden or the cover was simply scratched. Windshield needs to be replaced along with oil and brake service. Seems easier to have BMW make the car right rather than a buy back but whatever happens don't give them a penny more for that car.
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Heel328 First Lieutenant 79 Rep 369 Posts Drives: 2013 328i 6MT Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Carolina iTrader: (0)	More and more F30 6-speeds are finally hitting the used market. __________________ 2013 328i 6MT 1995 S6* 1993 S4* 1984 944* 1988 16V GTI*
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Emilim Dust Bunny 98 Rep 189 Posts Drives: 2016 F31 328i xDrive M Sport Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Vancouver iTrader: (0)	I'd just count my blessings that they offered to buy back the car without a fight, take your money back, and try your luck another time. More F30s are just starting to show up as lease returns so you're bound to find another 6MT if you're patient. I know it may seem like the problems are fixable and it's tempting to think this is just a hiccup, but the reality is you can no longer trust this car and you will always worry if something else will go wrong.
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F32Fleet Lieutenant General 3570 Rep 10,351 Posts Drives: 2015 435i Join Date: May 2005 Location: Southeastern US iTrader: (0)	Re spray is probably nothing. It could be just a scratch or bad road rash. Some half@ss repair by the original owner or dealer. Personally I would do a buy back under the assumption that'll really get the selling dealership in trouble. Shame on them for doing a half@ss CPO inspection but it would not surprise me if they knew about the issues and decided not to charge the original owner because he/she was 'a valued customer'. __________________ "Drive more, worry less. " 435i, MPPK, MPE, M-Sport Line
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Golden Arrow Lieutenant 195 Rep 522 Posts Drives: F36 430i GC Join Date: May 2014 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	Unless you have some sentimental attachment to this particular car, take the buy back! It's great that BMWNA is offering to do that. Sorry that you're going through this. It's supposed to be fun buying a new car for yourself. : __________________ 2017 430i GC 2013 335i 2004 330ci 2003 330xi (Forever in my heart )
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