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      06-03-2013, 10:37 PM   #243
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Honestly I chose the 335I because of the torque (which is not even comparable during normal driving conditions) and for the sound it makes. The exhaust and intake note from the 328 did not seem as refined or as sporty. Purely my opinion, which is all this tread is about in the first place, isn't it?

Also, no one on here is really discussing how the drivetrain associated with the engine impacts the cars overall handling. I drove all of the variants available in the US, and the 335i xdrive 8AT with DHP was, to me, the obvious winner in terms of balance and predictable power delivery. For my specific situation, it is the car.

By the way, anyone who thinks aftermarket companies invest even a 10th as much R&D effort into their part optimization as an OEM is out of touch with the industry. The reason a lot of people on forums mod their cars and buy aftermarket components is because they are looking for their vehicle to be a different compromise than the OE intended. Designing a car is all compromise. Very few vehicle can lay claim to purely being focused on performance optimization.

Finally, claiming a version of a vehicle is better or worse is frankly ridiculous, everyone makes their buying decisions based on compromise. For some, that compromise is cost, for others it is performance or driving feel, and for others it is even the ability to be comfortable when necessary and 80-90% a performance car when called upon.

Personally, that is what I think the F30 does perfectly. It combines the confident handling and performance we all expect from BMW, while playing a dual role in being much more comfortable and grown-up than previous versions, without venturing into the slightly lazy/comfort realm of the current 5 series. With the F30, BMW is able to appeal to more buyers and thus increase their sales, which is their goal after all.
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      07-11-2013, 10:15 AM   #244
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      07-11-2013, 10:17 AM   #245
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Honestly I chose the 335I because of the torque (which is not even comparable during normal driving conditions) and for the sound it makes. The exhaust and intake note from the 328 did not seem as refined or as sporty. Purely my opinion, which is all this tread is about in the first place, isn't it?

Also, no one on here is really discussing how the drivetrain associated with the engine impacts the cars overall handling. I drove all of the variants available in the US, and the 335i xdrive 8AT with DHP was, to me, the obvious winner in terms of balance and predictable power delivery. For my specific situation, it is the car.

By the way, anyone who thinks aftermarket companies invest even a 10th as much R&D effort into their part optimization as an OEM is out of touch with the industry. The reason a lot of people on forums mod their cars and buy aftermarket components is because they are looking for their vehicle to be a different compromise than the OE intended. Designing a car is all compromise. Very few vehicle can lay claim to purely being focused on performance optimization.

Finally, claiming a version of a vehicle is better or worse is frankly ridiculous, everyone makes their buying decisions based on compromise. For some, that compromise is cost, for others it is performance or driving feel, and for others it is even the ability to be comfortable when necessary and 80-90% a performance car when called upon.

Personally, that is what I think the F30 does perfectly. It combines the confident handling and performance we all expect from BMW, while playing a dual role in being much more comfortable and grown-up than previous versions, without venturing into the slightly lazy/comfort realm of the current 5 series. With the F30, BMW is able to appeal to more buyers and thus increase their sales, which is their goal after all.
That is a great answer, probably the best on the page. Well written too.


But with the interduction of the M proformance update, has anyway seen such great improvement to the 335i that it makes the 328i less of a competitor?
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      07-11-2013, 10:28 AM   #246
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That is a great answer, probably the best on the page. Well written too.


But with the interduction of the M proformance update, has anyway seen such great improvement to the 335i that it makes the 328i less of a competitor?
I won't comment on 335i vs 328i, we already have pages of this so there is enough information to make an informed decision.

If you meant the introduction of the PPK, I will make a comparison between my 335i pre and post PPK. I would take my post PPK car to my pre PPK. Other than the added performance, which is noticeable, the throttle mapping is much better and the steering feels right in each mode. My Eco-Pro is boring as hell to drive (akin to driving a corolla), much slower than pre PPK. I like it that way since it encourages me to drive slow in eco pro and in the process save fuel. My Sport + mode is the exact opposite of eco pro. Comfort mode feels like the old sport mode.

Hope this helps.
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      07-16-2013, 04:26 AM   #247
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Honestly I chose the 335I because of the torque (which is not even comparable during normal driving conditions) and for the sound it makes. The exhaust and intake note from the 328 did not seem as refined or as sporty. Purely my opinion, which is all this tread is about in the first place, isn't it?

Also, no one on here is really discussing how the drivetrain associated with the engine impacts the cars overall handling. I drove all of the variants available in the US, and the 335i xdrive 8AT with DHP was, to me, the obvious winner in terms of balance and predictable power delivery. For my specific situation, it is the car.

By the way, anyone who thinks aftermarket companies invest even a 10th as much R&D effort into their part optimization as an OEM is out of touch with the industry. The reason a lot of people on forums mod their cars and buy aftermarket components is because they are looking for their vehicle to be a different compromise than the OE intended. Designing a car is all compromise. Very few vehicle can lay claim to purely being focused on performance optimization.

Finally, claiming a version of a vehicle is better or worse is frankly ridiculous, everyone makes their buying decisions based on compromise. For some, that compromise is cost, for others it is performance or driving feel, and for others it is even the ability to be comfortable when necessary and 80-90% a performance car when called upon.

Personally, that is what I think the F30 does perfectly. It combines the confident handling and performance we all expect from BMW, while playing a dual role in being much more comfortable and grown-up than previous versions, without venturing into the slightly lazy/comfort realm of the current 5 series. With the F30, BMW is able to appeal to more buyers and thus increase their sales, which is their goal after all.
I am new to this forum and currently trying to decide between a 328i or a 335i

The post by arnerj has helped me focus on the 335i. I will be retiring soon so don't want to spend all that money and then regret not spending a few thousand more to get the 335i
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      09-12-2013, 09:32 AM   #248
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I agreed what is said above!!!
I have driven both and but I mostly prefer 335i. It still delivers a grin to my experience. If your on a price range than i would look at the 328i. But if your from the 330 than you will really like the Energy and the managing of the 335i even with a automatic transmitting.
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      09-12-2013, 02:53 PM   #249
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The fuel economy advantage in the 328 makes the smaller motor my default choice, but I have been considering sacrificing leather and HUD to get into a 335 at near the same price.
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