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      07-04-2013, 04:03 PM   #67
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Sam... the $1000-difference only gives HUD. Everything else is standard with Nav-only for 2014 in all 3/4-Series.

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That extra $1000 for the Tech package gets you extended display in the instrument panel, BMW Apps, Enhanced USB and Bluetooth plus Smartphone Integration (without this, you're not streaming BT music to your phone, or over USB) as well as HUD. Also Advanced Real Time Traffic with routing assistance.

HUD is incredible, and I'll never get a car without it again. I test drove some 5 series, and the first one had no HUD. The first thing I noticed when I got in the car was "where's the HUD, how fast am I going?" The second car (535i) had HUD, but no Speed Limit Info. As I cruised out of the dealership, I kept wondering "what is the speed limit around here", because I wanted to push it a bit.

You never know how much you miss something until you try/have it for a week or so.
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Unfortunately, 704 (M-Sport suspension) is no longer standard in this 4-Series.

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Cool.

Bless you BMW for maintaining the tradition and putting sport suspension standard on the coupe! At least that way one can pick whatever line, or no line, and still have the better handling. It actually makes buying the coupe in the base trim a viable option, even without opting for the DHP.

Were I to buy one today, I'd go base with black vinyl seats, DAP, nav, heated seats and HK radio and it would come in for less money than then sedan, which frankly, having two fewer doors is as it should be. LOL

(Much as I love red seats, there's no way I would pay $2K+ for the sport line just to get them, particularly when they only think I want from the sport line, which doesn't actually provide them, it just enables them, and they would still be an additional $1400.)
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      07-04-2013, 04:53 PM   #69
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It doesn't let me choose the M-sport brakes. Anyone else have this problem?
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      07-04-2013, 04:56 PM   #70
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Anyone else having these problems?

When you choose the M-Sport package, you can't choose the 19 inch wheel option without losing the M-Sport package.

The Technology Package de-selects itself? Specifically, I have the Premium Package Selected (with Black leather), Driver's assistance, Driver's assistance plus (with the navigation system sub-box checked) - all of this on an M-Sport Car. Anytime i go to check the technology package, it selects it, then a second later, automatically removes/de-selects it.

Anyone had either of these problems?
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      07-04-2013, 05:16 PM   #71
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Anyone else having these problems?

When you choose the M-Sport package, you can't choose the 19 inch wheel option without losing the M-Sport package.

The Technology Package de-selects itself? Specifically, I have the Premium Package Selected (with Black leather), Driver's assistance, Driver's assistance plus (with the navigation system sub-box checked) - all of this on an M-Sport Car. Anytime i go to check the technology package, it selects it, then a second later, automatically removes/de-selects it.

Anyone had either of these problems?
I have this problem with M-sport brakes
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      07-04-2013, 05:23 PM   #72
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The Canuck configurator isn't up yet so I have not been able to compare it what I paid for my fully loaded e92.

Compared to a comparably equipped US spec e92, is the F32 materially more?
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Waiting for the M4, and I would like more control over options and packages.
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      07-04-2013, 06:37 PM   #74
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Imperial Blue Metallic
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Cold Weather Package
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Premium Package
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      07-04-2013, 06:39 PM   #75
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As much as I want to like this series, I can't. It looks to vanilla, especially after seeing the concept. I wish they made that one, I would be all over it.

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      07-04-2013, 06:43 PM   #76
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My 435i CoupeDetails
TwinPower Turbo 3.0-liter inline 6-cylinder
Rear-wheel drive
See all standard features

BASE MSRP
$46,000
Luxury Line
$1,400

Imperial Blue Metallic
$550

Leather Dakota Venetian Beige exclusive stitching
$0

Ash Grain Fine Wood Trim with Metal Inlay
$0
Cold Weather Package
$700
Lighting Package
$1,900
Premium Package
$2,200
19" Light Alloy Wheel Multi-spoke Style 399 with Mixed Performance Tires
$900
Manual Transmission
$0
Harman Kardon surround sound system
$875
Destination & Handling:
$925

That F30 has 403M wheels should be exclusive to the MSport line. Glitch, or something new for '14?
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Sam... the $1000-difference only gives HUD. Everything else is standard with Nav-only for 2014 in all 3/4-Series.
Interesting. That is new for 2014.
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      07-04-2013, 07:38 PM   #78
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Unfortunately, 704 (M-Sport suspension) is no longer standard in this 4-Series.

In light of your comment, I went back a checked what I looked at yesterday. It appears BMW have altered the information that was there. The pop-up window most certainly had a line that said sport suspension was a standard feature, although it didn't say "m-sport."

Perhaps things are still being refined as goes the configurator. for example, I see a lighting package priced at $1900 that only includes automatic high beams. Personally, I can't see anyone spending that sum for automatic high beams when the car already has the adaptive Xenons. Also, the standard feature list also says the car has power front and rear windows with one-touch up and down, but the pictures on the configurator don't show buttons that would appear to operate the rear windows. Also, judging by BMW's site, the 3er coupe is still available.
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Lets be honest..........

I just configured 435i with navigation, premium, sport, heated seats, metallic color, leather, etc. Price close to $59,000. Now lets remember, this is really just a 3 series coupe based on the sedan with 2 doors chopped off and very similar in style.

NOW...............

I just configured a 2013 Cayman with 275hp, V6 with PDK (both are Porsche marvels of engineering), adaptive bi xenon lights, full leather, 14 way power sport seats (way better than BMW's), auto dimming, heated seats, metallic color. compared to BMW missing Navigation only, price at $65,000.......

Now one must be honest, there 4 series (really a 3 series debugged 4) isn't event in the same league as the Cayman and I am talking about the new designed 2013 cayman. Drive, performance and luxury isn't even close. Wouldn't you just wait and save 6 to 7 grands more and buy a car that is way above the 4 series and not even in the same league? Come on guys, well all love BMW but look at the competition.
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      07-04-2013, 07:41 PM   #80
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Please let the M4 not look like this! And what bothers me the most is that interior, looks like a Nissan or something.
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I just configured 435i with navigation, premium, sport, heated seats, metallic color, leather, etc. Price close to $59,000. Now lets remember, this is really just a 3 series coupe based on the sedan with 2 doors chopped off and very similar in style.

NOW...............

I just configured a 2013 Cayman with 275hp, V6 with PDK (both are Porsche marvels of engineering), adaptive bi xenon lights, full leather, 14 way power sport seats (way better than BMW's), auto dimming, heated seats, metallic color. compared to BMW missing Navigation only, price at $65,000.......

Now one must be honest, there 4 series (really a 3 series debugged 4) isn't event in the same league as the Cayman and I am talking about the new designed 2013 cayman. Drive, performance and luxury isn't even close. Wouldn't you just wait and save 6 to 7 grands more and buy a car that is way above the 4 series and not even in the same league? Come on guys, well all love BMW but look at the competition.
A Cayman doesn't have a backseat. You are comparing apples and oranges.
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And what bothers me the most is that interior, looks like a Nissan or something.
The interior is the exact same as the F30 3-series. Few owners complain.
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And again, BMW forces you to buy packages instead of giving you options. *Sigh...
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A Cayman doesn't have a backseat. You are comparing apples and oranges.
True, but the guy has a point. What is the main reason that we would want a 4? The way it drives. We love BMW because they are incredibly fun to drive. Now, if a 4's price is that close to a mid-engine Cayman, I think it's too much. If you really want a car that is fun-to-drive and yet very practical like you said, it is called the 3.

Besides, the 4 isn't as good looking as the concept IMO. I'm a little disappointed. Oh well, at least I'm not buying a new car anytime soon.
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True, but the guy has a point. What is the main reason that we would want a 4? The way it drives.

The majority of people that buy BMW 3 series (now 4 series coupes) buy the 328i model. Yes, they love the way it drives, but they also like the way it looks, and that it is somewhat practical. A Cayman is not a practical car, for the person looking for a $500 lease payment (i.e. 428i buyer).

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We love BMW because they are incredibly fun to drive. Now, if a 4's price is that close to a mid-engine Cayman, I think it's too much. If you really want a car that is fun-to-drive and yet very practical like you said, it is called the 3.
Just because you need the backseat 10 times a year doesn't mean you want 4 doors on your car 365 days of the year.
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The majority of people that buy BMW 3 series (now 4 series coupes) buy the 328i model. Yes, they love the way it drives, but they also like the way it looks, and that it is somewhat practical. A Cayman is not a practical car, for the person looking for a $500 lease payment (i.e. 428i buyer).



Just because you need the backseat 10 times a year doesn't mean you want 4 doors on your car 365 days of the year.
I can't imagine a back seat being a major factor here... I just ordered a fully loaded 435i M Sport, and I was well in the Cayman territory. I have never been a fan of Porsche - never liked the way they look, and but for the real high-end models, never really liked the driving experience either (I know I'm a minority, spare me the hate). If anything, my alternative was a new M3.

I personally love the way the new 4 looks, but I admit, I have some reservations. I hope they all go away when I see it with my own eyes!
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The interior is the exact same as the F30 3-series. Few owners complain.
I guess I'm used to my 5 series then. I just don't think $60k car when i see this.
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