[justinnum1]

will they bill me the dealer rate?($440 per tire)

[Dcarter15]

I was told by a CA that you need to "qualify" for the pull ahead program. Is this true? What would qualify you?

[Thumper333]

Originally Posted by DS_BMW

How about a 2 year pull ahead. That's what I want.

That's how I got my S4. Dealer wanted the Q5 TDI we were driving, swapped keys with nothing out of pocket after only 10 months in the Q5. LOL

Never hurts to ask.

[sr5959]

Originally Posted by justinnum1

if i do a pull ahead and i need new tires, how does that work? i am not buying tires to drive on for 2 months until my car gets here...

Get some used tires off ebay.

[bmw-again]

Went to dealer other day for one year service on GT and they said at 2 years they will be contacting me about pull ahead. My car does not have a mark on it and 8400 miles after one year. They told me they make all of their money on pre owned really clean cars like mine thats why they want to pull ahead. Im going to order f-36 just like I ordered this GT. No money down 3yr 12k. Dealer told me they will make rest of payments and I will drive car until new ordered comes in. I have been thinking about going back to Porsche again and get a Panamera but I really like the Gran Coupe.

[dreamspeed]

Originally Posted by rjc32000

The "inspection" performed on the 328 I turned in early was perfunctory at best, and I wasn't charged for anything (despite presence of a dent in passenger rear fender). My CA literally did a quick walk around the car, briefly looked inside through driver's door, and that was it. I got the impression that so long as you agree to lease/buy another car, the dealership isn't too particular about condition of vehicle you are turning in.

From dealer's perspective, lease pull-ahead is likely a great $ maker. You've already paid depreciation for 3 years/30k miles (or whatever your terms) through your initial deposit and interest/MF fees (i.e., your "low" monthly payments are subsidized by your initial downpayment). Dealer gets car back with fewer miles, less wear, and more value than they originally bargained for. And gets you to provide another downpayment and agree to make payment for 3 more years! No wonder they aren't too picky when you turn the car back in.

Another good reason to never put anything down on a lease.

[atg4]

Originally Posted by dreamspeed

Another good reason to never put anything down on a lease.

Just MSDs if you can afford it.

[the_phew]

Originally Posted by dreamspeed

Another good reason to never put anything down on a lease.

My state is one of the handful that requires sales tax on the ENTIRE price of the car when leased. I paid the sales tax up front (perhaps foolishly? I thought I was avoiding paying interest on the tax), but most people choose to spread it out over all 36 payments. FYI, in VA, tax ends up being ~10% of the cost of the lease.

If your dealer pulls your lease ahead, do they cover the remaining tax payments also?

Anyway, I'd be inclined to do the opposite of "pull ahead": order a new BMW with like a week left on my lease, since apparently BMW will extend your lease if you have a new car on order. That way you get to amortize the acquisition fee, doc fee, tax, etc. over a couple more months. I'll also probably be under on mileage, so the extra 6-8 weeks will let me use those up. Shame my lease is up in May; that's about the worst month to order a BMW (since it will arrive right as the new model year is available).

[atg4]

Originally Posted by justinnum1

will they bill me the dealer rate?($440 per tire)

Lease return penalties on tires are cheaper than replacing them yourself. Had 19s turned in bald and only 300 per. Dealer list was 459 a tire for the fronts, rears were more.

[atg4]

Originally Posted by the_phew

My state is one of the handful that requires sales tax on the ENTIRE price of the car when leased. I paid the sales tax up front (perhaps foolishly? I thought I was avoiding paying interest on the tax), but most people choose to spread it out over all 36 payments. FYI, in VA, tax ends up being ~10% of the cost of the lease.

If your dealer pulls your lease ahead, do they cover the remaining tax payments also?

Anyway, I'd be inclined to do the opposite of "pull ahead": order a new BMW with like a week left on my lease, since apparently BMW will extend your lease if you have a new car on order. That way you get to amortize the acquisition fee, doc fee, tax, etc. over a couple more months. I'll also probably be under on mileage, so the extra 6-8 weeks will let me use those up. Shame my lease is up in May; that's about the worst month to order a BMW (since it will arrive right as the new model year is available).

Bad idea. You have to pay a full years worth of registration for only a couple months. In CA, this equates to at least $350.

[the_phew]

Originally Posted by alexandertg21

Bad idea. You have to pay a full years worth of registration for only a couple months. In CA, this equates to at least $350.

In my location, we don't have annual registration, but annual property tax on autos. That tax is incurred on Jan 1 each year, so keeping the car through June instead of May doesn't affect anything. Best way to avoid the tax is turn in your lease on Dec 31, and lease your new one on Jan 2.

On a lease, it's actually BMW that's billed for the tax. Apparently they pass it on to the lessee, but it's almost April and I haven't seen a bill.

[sr5959]

Originally Posted by bmw-again

Went to dealer other day for one year service on GT and they said at 2 years they will be contacting me about pull ahead. My car does not have a mark on it and 8400 miles after one year. They told me they make all of their money on pre owned really clean cars like mine thats why they want to pull ahead. Im going to order f-36 just like I ordered this GT. No money down 3yr 12k. Dealer told me they will make rest of payments and I will drive car until new ordered comes in. I have been thinking about going back to Porsche again and get a Panamera but I really like the Gran Coupe.

F36 M-Sport looks better than a Panamera in my opinion.

[geddylee]

Originally Posted by dreamspeed

Oddly enough I was only able to find 2-3 threads on the topic and the information wasn't very comprehensive.

1. I understand that BMWNA pays the remaining lease payments so does that mean you physically return the car to the dealer you leased from and then you can do the new lease at another dealer?

2. What happens if you are over mileage [if you calculate it monthly] but are still under the total allotted mileage? For example, if your lease is 30month/30k miles that means by month 24 you should only have used 24k miles...but what about if you are at 29k miles? You are under the allotted 30k miles but over what you are supposed to be at for that month.

Thanks

I just did this. They only count the total miles against your existing agreement. Thus there is no pro-ration which also makes it a no brainer if you are going to continue to be over your miles on the existing car.

[Cyberdemon]

Went to do the pull ahead yesterday, dealer ended up buying the car outright instead of pulling it ahead and waived the fees for all damages and mods.

End of the quarter, great time for people to meet their sales goals!

[the_phew]

Originally Posted by sr5959

F36 M-Sport looks better than a Panamera in my opinion.

So does Rosie O'Donnell.

In that segment, I'd probably go A7 or Model S long before considering the Panamera.

[335BOY]

Originally Posted by alexandertg21

Lease return penalties on tires are cheaper than replacing them yourself. Had 19s turned in bald and only 300 per. Dealer list was 459 a tire for the fronts, rears were more.

You can ALWAYS find a used set for next to nothing at a tire shop for very little $. Always.

[sr5959]

Originally Posted by the_phew

So does Rosie O'Donnell.

In that segment, I'd probably go A7 or Model S long before considering the Panamera.

Well not quite sure about this...the Panamera isn't a classic design but some versions do look really impressive.

[karupspc]

I'm on my 4th BMW lease all with same dealership. Here's my experience so far..
On the first two BMW leases, I was over the contracted miles by 10-15,000 miles did not have to buy any additional miles nor was there a penalty fee because I was rolling into another lease. If I had decided to return the car without leasing another vehicle then the dealership would have made me pay the miles.
Returned all of the cars with the original OEM tires and returned the cars on nearly empty gas tank too. The week leading up to the trade-in I was driving everywhere!

My recent BMW e92 lease trade-in I was able to do a pull ahead into a F36 by 1.5 months and since I was under the contracted miles, BMW actually cut me a check for nearly $900 (a new job where I traveled weekly, so wasn't driving that much during the week).

I hope that helps.

[atg4]

Originally Posted by the_phew

In my location, we don't have annual registration, but annual property tax on autos. That tax is incurred on Jan 1 each year, so keeping the car through June instead of May doesn't affect anything. Best way to avoid the tax is turn in your lease on Dec 31, and lease your new one on Jan 2.

On a lease, it's actually BMW that's billed for the tax. Apparently they pass it on to the lessee, but it's almost April and I haven't seen a bill.

I'd say do it then! If you can't lose, then why wouldn't you?

[fshubert]

Originally Posted by justinnum1

will they bill me the dealer rate?($440 per tire)

No, as I recall, they charged me less than $300 for the rear 255's. Was not a bad deal. But I got that figure from my CA and then he delivered when I got the bill from BMWFS.

[chrisny]

Originally Posted by alexandertg21

Bad idea. You have to pay a full years worth of registration for only a couple months. In CA, this equates to at least $350.

You can't transfer plates in CA? In NY, you just transfer the plates to the new car for a much smaller fee than the registration, and keep the remainder of the registration. Our reg is also 2 years long, so it usually makes sense to do so.

[chrisny]

Originally Posted by the_phew

So does Rosie O'Donnell.

In that segment, I'd probably go A7 or Model S long before considering the Panamera.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you guys are nuts. Panamera looks way better than a 4GC. Not a fair comparison given the size and price though. But, I would take a 6GC or Panamera, then Model S, then A5 Sportback (if they would ever bring it here!) then 4G..