[Hooded]

Originally Posted by The0pportunist

What scares me about all this is with the car so heavily dependent on electronics, what if you go under and the car refuses to let you open the door or window.

Kick a window out like James Bond would ?

[teaston]

Originally Posted by Wills2

Which is actually piss poor for an SUV, RR's can do 900mm

I just discovered the Land Rover Defenders wading depth is the same as the X3, 500mm!

https://forums.lr4x4.com/topic/39788...pth-for-a-td5/

[The0pportunist]

Originally Posted by Hooded

Kick a window out like James Bond would ?

I hear this is easier said than done. Especially with the typical items found inside a car's cabin.

Happy to be corrected though, for my anxiety sake.

[teaston]

Originally Posted by The0pportunist

I hear this is easier said than done. Especially with the typical items found inside a car's cabin.

Happy to be corrected, for my anxiety sake.

You have to wait for the cabin to completely fill with water, for the pressure difference to neutralise.

[Hooded]

Originally Posted by teaston

You have to wait for the cabin to completely fill with water, for the pressure difference to neutralise.

There you go.. from the voice of experience

[RENT-A-GOAT]

Originally Posted by The0pportunist

I hear this is easier said than done. Especially with the typical items found inside a car's cabin.

Happy to be corrected though, for my anxiety sake.

This is what pointed ends of the metal legs of the head restraints are for, hit the windows hard and in the corner and they will put through.

[Wills2]

Originally Posted by teaston

I just discovered the Land Rover Defenders wading depth is the same as the X3, 500mm!

https://forums.lr4x4.com/topic/39788...pth-for-a-td5/

Ah bless you....meanwhile the LR defender you can order new is also 900mm, keep googling!

[teaston]

Originally Posted by Wills2

Ah bless you....

I didn't sneeze!? :

[RobUK]

Originally Posted by RENT-A-GOAT

This is what pointed ends of the metal legs of the head restraints are for, hit the windows hard and in the corner and they will put through.

Never knew that

[RENT-A-GOAT]

Originally Posted by RobUK

Never knew that

That would be a last resort effort tbh.

For the sake of £5 or less it's better to have one of these in the glove box or drivers side storage compartment (if you have the extended storage option)

https://www.screwfix.com/p/fire-safe...lt-knife/48101

[JNW1]

Originally Posted by Ronstein

Nope, they just expect you to NOT DRIVE THROUGH if you don't know how deep it is.

But if, as he says, the OP had seen other saloon cars drive through without a problem I think he was reasonable to expect his car would be able to do the same. Therefore, if it gets to an insurance claim and his insurers try to say he was negligent I think he's got a reasonable counter argument....

[Hooded]

Originally Posted by JNW1

But if, as he says, the OP had seen other saloon cars drive through without a problem I think he was reasonable to expect his car would be able to do the same. Therefore, if it gets to an insurance claim and his insurers try to say he was negligent I think he's got a reasonable counter argument....

Indeed

[Randolph13]

Got the 1st estimate from the dealer which has now been sent on it insurers, total £4.3k which includes oilflush through, replace all oils and filters, steering rack and starter motor replacement. After this work the engine will be run to assess any further damage.
R

[teaston]

Originally Posted by Randolph13

Got the 1st estimate from the dealer which has now been sent on it insurers, total £4.3k which includes oilflush through, replace all oils and filters, steering rack and starter motor replacement. After this work the engine will be run to assess any further damage.
R

Ouch, do you know if your insurers are going to play ball yet?

[Londoner]

Originally Posted by Randolph13

Got the 1st estimate from the dealer which has now been sent on it insurers, total £4.3k which includes oilflush through, replace all oils and filters, steering rack and starter motor replacement. After this work the engine will be run to assess any further damage.
R

Awful luck mate. Although at least they can't claim "beyond economic repair".

And sounds like you were on an open public road - just can't see how they could refuse to pay out.

[335d Rocco]

Originally Posted by Randolph13

Got the 1st estimate from the dealer which has now been sent on it insurers, total £4.3k which includes oilflush through, replace all oils and filters, steering rack and starter motor replacement. After this work the engine will be run to assess any further damage.
R

I hope they haven’t noticed you’ve got one of the faulty “knocking” steering racks & they're replacing it & chucking it on the insurance bill

[JNW1]

Originally Posted by Randolph13

Got the 1st estimate from the dealer which has now been sent on it insurers, total £4.3k which includes oilflush through, replace all oils and filters, steering rack and starter motor replacement. After this work the engine will be run to assess any further damage.
R

Sorry to hear that.

However, are they saying the damage is a result of water entering the engine via the air intake? I do find that surprising if the flood water didn't even get to the bottom of the doors; as per an earlier post, I though the air intake on the F31 was mounted behind the grille and hence the flood water you described shouldn't have got anywhere near it?

[Eddamoo]

So they haven't even taken the spark plugs out and air filter to check the engine?! Over 4 grand for that lot is simply fraud in my opinion. Most of that stuff will be just fine, it's subject to water all the time being the lowest components. Crazy, no wonder our premiums are ridiculous

[Watsey]

Originally Posted by Eddamoo

So they haven't even taken the spark plugs out and air filter to check the engine?! Over 4 grand for that lot is simply fraud in my opinion. Most of that stuff will be just fine, it's subject to water all the time being the lowest components. Crazy, no wonder our premiums are ridiculous

Totally agree. Cashing-in on an insurance claim.

New steering rack and starter motor because the car went through a puddle ?

Oil flush-through and new seals yet the engine hasn't been checked to see whether it's been structurally compromised ?

What good is new oil going to do if the valves are bent, con rods are bent, block is cracked, etc ?

What a joke.

OP, you should call them out on this.

[teaston]

Originally Posted by Watsey

Totally agree. Cashing-in on an insurance claim.

New steering rack and starter motor because the car went through a puddle ?

Oil flush-through and new seals yet the engine hasn't been checked to see whether it's been structurally compromised ?

What good is new oil going to do if the valves are bent, con rods are bent, block is cracked, etc ?

What a joke.

OP, you should call them out on this.

Totally agree, their course of actions sound totally bizarre! The spark plugs need to be removed ASAP and the engine cranked to ascertain if there’s water in the cylinders (if there’s currently water in there it will soon corrode the cylinders!), so their delaying could actually be what kills the engine.

[Randolph13]

they did take the spark plugs out and checked cylinders at the beginning.
After a week of "discussion" dealer and insurance agreed to just do the oil work and then see how the engine behaved. Dealer conformed on Friday that oil work done and compression checked with the result that insurance have agreed to a full repair, expect more news next Friday.
Thanks for the advise
R

[JustChris]

Originally Posted by teaston

I just discovered the Land Rover Defenders wading depth is the same as the X3, 500mm!

https://forums.lr4x4.com/topic/39788...pth-for-a-td5/

The old one? New Defender is 90cm which is a little below the door handles on that car. Bonkers! Who actually wades as you never quite know without measuring the whole path how deep but is.

The new Defender is at the Traf this week coming up. I'll be taking a peek.