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      10-23-2019, 06:02 AM   #1
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Run flats or normal tyres?

Hi. My tyres tread are quite low and they need changing. As I know bmw are going to charge me a lot to get new ones fitted on my car which Is a F30 320i m sport non x drive. What type of tyres would you recommend? And what brand is popular? Thanks.
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I am sure that non run flats will be more compliant and give a better ride but I do like the convenience of run flats.

On my last car (320i M-Sport S drive with adaptive suspension) I had Bridgestone Potenza S001 run flat tyres. I could live with them but they were noisy, although they were hardwaring and lasted a long time.

On my current car (420i M-Sport S drive, with passive M-Sport suspension) I find the tyres much better, with less road noise, almost as good as a non run flat. They are Goodyear Eagle F1's.

I did also see that some other new 420i cars had Pirelli P-zero run flats. Don't know how good they are.

I think when the time comes I will continue with run flats as the difference is minimal and I don't want to be stuck at the side of a motorway with a flat tyre.

So firstly if you go for run flats ensure they are good ones.
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I've got the bridgestone originals on mine. My winters are go flats and i honestly cant tell the difference.
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I am sure that non run flats will be more compliant and give a better ride but I do like the convenience of run flats.

On my last car (320i M-Sport S drive with adaptive suspension) I had Bridgestone Potenza S001 run flat tyres. I could live with them but they were noisy, although they were hardwaring and lasted a long time.

On my current car (420i M-Sport S drive, with passive M-Sport suspension) I find the tyres much better, with less road noise, almost as good as a non run flat. They are Goodyear Eagle F1's.

I did also see that some other new 420i cars had Pirelli P-zero run flats. Don't know how good they are.

I think when the time comes I will continue with run flats as the difference is minimal and I don't want to be stuck at the side of a motorway with a flat tyre.

So firstly if you go for run flats ensure they are good ones.
I currently have continentals conti sport all round. There is a true company only 5 mins from my house and he says he has the following run flats available at his place Pirelli's and Bridgestone. As I'm looking to get them fitted this week before the car goes for its mot next week
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I currently have continentals conti sport all round. There is a true company only 5 mins from my house and he says he has the following run flats available at his place Pirelli's and Bridgestone. As I'm looking to get them fitted this week before the car goes for its mot next week
I wouldn't go for Bridgestone, I think they are universally thought of as the worst. Maybe someone on here has experience with Pirelli.
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Hi. My tyres tread are quite low and they need changing. As I know bmw are going to charge me a lot to get new ones fitted on my car which Is a F30 320i m sport non x drive. What type of tyres would you recommend? And what brand is popular? Thanks.
Why on earth would you go to a BMW dealer to get your tyres changed ?

Get a number of quotes, blackcircles, camskill ... lots of supplier/fitters out there.
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I have Bridgestone RFTs. No issues. Drive absolutely fine. Yes they are less compliant than a normal tyre due to stiffer side walls. But stiffer side walls gives me more feel and sharper ride.
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I currently have continentals conti sport all round. There is a true company only 5 mins from my house and he says he has the following run flats available at his place Pirelli's and Bridgestone. As I'm looking to get them fitted this week before the car goes for its mot next week
I wouldn't go for Bridgestone, I think they are universally thought of as the worst. Maybe someone on here has experience with Pirelli.
Bridgestone Driveguards in my area are considered best runflats compared to stock Continental or Pirelli. They are quieter and better in wet and snow. Still goflats drive better and are much better over rough roads. By comparison runflats are old wooden wagon wheels
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Both types of tyre have their benefits and disadvantages in terms of ride and handling vs. convenience so which you choose really depends on what your priorities are, e.g. potentially having to change a tyre at the side of the road vs. ultimate ride and handling quality. I have always chosen (Goodyear) RFTs as for my driving style they are quite acceptable and my priority is trying not to get stranded on the side of a road perhaps at night in the pouring rain, but it's horses for courses.

Your dealer will quote you a lot more than specialist tyre firms, in my experience about £30-£40 per tyre so I have always gone to an independent tyre company.
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I had a blow out on the motorway a couple of weeks ago and I would have been in big trouble without runflats so i will stick with them. I have Brisgestone also. they have done 30000 miles and still have 5mm left so actually very cost effective.
My local BMW dealer does a price match on tyres so why not go to them!
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Mine came with Goodyear Efficient Grip and they are ok. I would imagine that any runflat similar in price to these would be fine. Just make a couple of calls and get a decent price. Kwik Fit were pretty cheap for me and did it the same day.
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This would be an easy choice for me.
If you're going to retain runflat (which I would, personally) then the GoodYear F1 Asymmetric is a brilliant tyre. Quiet, decent ride quality & loads of grip. By far the best runflats I've had.
If you go non runflat, then on your car, I'd go Michelin Pilot Sport 4. You just don't need the more sportier (and expensive) 4S. The normal 4 is a great tyre. Just put these on my daughters Merc A Class & they're night/day better than the Conti's that were on.
As has been said, shop around. You'll get a local, very competitive price I'm sure.
Before you book it though, do ring your BMW dealer, as many will try & price match or beat a genuine quote.
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We've had a set of Bridgestone Driveguards as well. Initially, very pleased with grip, especially in the wet. But (and it's a big but), they wore down to the tread bars in less than 14K miles, and only on a diesel small family hatchback.
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I run P Zero RFTs and have no complaints. They're a good tyre. Grip well in both wet and dry and aren't too noisy and will do 30k on the rear and around 40k on the front (and I drive like a cock) But I have nothing to compare to on my 420d. It had p zeros when I bought it and I just put 4 new ones on, purely because I bought a full set of new tyres second hand off these forums for £400.

Had I not done that, I would have stayed with RFTs but gone for Eagle F1s. They seem to be a comparable tyre to the PZero but are around £180 versus £225 per tyre fitted according to black circles.

If you're sticking with RFTs then I would certainly go with Eagle F1 Asy 2s according to the extensive research I did.

As others have said, why on earth would you buy tyres from BMW???? Massive premium for zero gain
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I saw this on the BMW site a while back. If they promise to price match then BMW may be a good choice.
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Ok let's start from the beginning!
You state that BMW will probably charge a fortune for tyres. That my friend is correct!
Always remember, BMW do not 'make' tyres they only 'source' them!
You will find lot of options, Tyreleader, Camskill to mention a few!
I am currently running run-flats,( no by choice!)440i
But I will be back on conventional tyres when these run out!
Used to own 335 and the difference from r/t to 'conventional' was unreal!
I really wish you could specify what tyres you would like on your car!!
Take your time and trawl the 'net' for tyre deals!!
Good luck!
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As soon as my run-flats wear out I'll be ditching them and going for Pilot Sport 4's.
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I am sure that non run flats will be more compliant and give a better ride but I do like the convenience of run flats.

On my last car (320i M-Sport S drive with adaptive suspension) I had Bridgestone Potenza S001 run flat tyres. I could live with them but they were noisy, although they were hardwaring and lasted a long time.

On my current car (420i M-Sport S drive, with passive M-Sport suspension) I find the tyres much better, with less road noise, almost as good as a non run flat. They are Goodyear Eagle F1's.

I did also see that some other new 420i cars had Pirelli P-zero run flats. Don't know how good they are.

I think when the time comes I will continue with run flats as the difference is minimal and I don't want to be stuck at the side of a motorway with a flat tyre.

So firstly if you go for run flats ensure they are good ones.
My car came with P Zeros. They're ok and grip well enough but I wouldn't say they're especially quiet and they seem to be wearing quickly. I'll probably go for something else when I need to change them.
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I've swapped the RFT's to Continental non-rfts. I won't be going back. Probably more risk of breaking down with a puncture, but I've one puncture in 5 years.
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I've got a 330dX, tyres need doing imminently so changing all four to Michelin Pilot Sport 4S after reading up on these forums.
Just can't take the horrendous ear-ringing bang when going over even a moderate sized pot hole. Also can't be doing the 19"s any good.
Will buy the foam stuff just in case of a serious puncture, looked at spare wheel kits but expensive for a space saver to fit over the brakes. May just buy a spare full sized wheel in case
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I've got a new f33 420i with Pzeros on it from factory.

They are the loudest thing in the car. Never had Run Flats on a car before (came from Merc) and I was surprised how loud they are. I've heard BMW owners moan about them before and can see why.

I do like the thought of them and the knowledge they are there, but am surprised how loud they are. Unsure currently if I will swap them for non run flats when there done. Car only has 2000 on it so will be a while yet.
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I had a blow out on the motorway a couple of weeks ago and I would have been in big trouble without runflats so i will stick with them. I have Brisgestone also. they have done 30000 miles and still have 5mm left so actually very cost effective.
My local BMW dealer does a price match on tyres so why not go to them!
30000 miles and still 5mm left on them? So you're saying you're going to get 60000 miles+ on a set of tyres? Pull another one...
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