[lens]

Originally Posted by stvding

it's not

Ignore that dude, the fact that he says reckless driving is exactly why you have idiots on the road with all seasons on or just overall driving 30-50kmph under the limit. Those conditions on your dashcam is 100-120kmph easily.

[stvding]

Originally Posted by chaungo

Ignore that dude, the fact that he says reckless driving is exactly why you have idiots on the road with all seasons on or just overall driving 30-50kmph under the limit. Those conditions on your dashcam is 100-120kmph easily.

100-120 kph was exactly what i was going last night. Really, the road was not that bad. Winter tire is the key. Some fools have fwd or awd or suv, they just think they will be fine but it really isn't.

[PK2348]

Originally Posted by chaungo

Ignore that dude, the fact that he says reckless driving is exactly why you have idiots on the road with all seasons on or just overall driving 30-50kmph under the limit. Those conditions on your dashcam is 100-120kmph easily.

it is the presence of the idiots on the road, mentioned by you above, that makes this type of driving reckless.

[Billfitz]

AWD is great for getting you going, but it doesn't do diddly for stopping. Your main concern in snow should always be how to avoid everyone who doesn't have AWD.

[smithf80]

Originally Posted by teaston

In the Grand Theft Auto area?

If anyone on this forum should be used to people not understanding locations that other people say it should be you, the leader of the UK forum.

[KGB_123_99]

+1 for winter tires!

[bad karma]

Came into this thread thinking "who does 100MPH in the fucking snow??" only to realize the Canadians were posting today.

[BimmerMat135]

I find a way to get stuck with x-drive for the first time earlier on today traction is excellent but ground clearance is low. Otherwise I'm having alot of fun with it make me like winter even more!

[lens]

Originally Posted by bad karma

Came into this thread thinking "who does 100MPH in the fucking snow??" only to realize the Canadians were posting today.

If you americans use the metric system like the rest of us, it would make life so much easier.

STOP BEING SO DIFFERENT

[stvding]

Originally Posted by bad karma

Came into this thread thinking "who does 100MPH in the fucking snow??" only to realize the Canadians were posting today.

Man, 100mph is crazy even for dry summer condition

[stvding]

Originally Posted by BimmerMat135

I find a way to get stuck with x-drive for the first time earlier on today traction is excellent but ground clearance is low. Otherwise I'm having alot of fun with it make me like winter even more!

Yes. Ground clearance is too low. I got my front bumper full of snow. See my pic above. If it is a x5 or x3. I will really dashing thru the snow. Lol

[bad karma]

Originally Posted by stvding

Man, 100mph is crazy even for dry summer condition

You're telling me. I just got a ticket on the eve before Christmas Eve doing 105 (that's 170km/h in the rest of the world ) bombing through a nearly deserted stretch of I-5 in the California desert on the way to visit family. The cop was not super thrilled about that.

I wasn't a dickhead to him, which he appreciated, so he knocked it down to 100 in a 70 instead. The 5MPH decrease was the difference between a $380 and $760+ ticket, plus since I'm from Oregon I can just pay the $380 ticket. The more expensive one would have also required that I appear in court or have counsel appear for me ($$$). So all things considered I got off easy.

In other news, though, driving this F31 going 75MPH in a straight line for hours on end is boring.as.hell.

[Blubaron79]

Originally Posted by chaungo

If you americans use the metric system like the rest of us, it would make life so much easier.

STOP BEING SO DIFFERENT

I'm one American who wishes we used the metric system..

[stvding]

Originally Posted by bad karma

You're telling me. I just got a ticket on the eve before Christmas Eve doing 105 (that's 170km/h in the rest of the world ) bombing through a nearly deserted stretch of I-5 in the California desert on the way to visit family. The cop was not super thrilled about that.

I wasn't a dickhead to him, which he appreciated, so he knocked it down to 100 in a 70 instead. The 5MPH decrease was the difference between a $380 and $760+ ticket, plus since I'm from Oregon I can just pay the $380 ticket. The more expensive one would have also required that I appear in court or have counsel appear for me ($$$). So all things considered I got off easy.

In other news, though, driving this F31 going 75MPH in a straight line for hours on end is boring.as.hell.

Well, maybe a radar detector for xmas gift?

[Beowulf65]

Gee whiz...I've been driving in Canadian winters on AS tires for 47 years now and have never had a problem. I've never had an accident due to snow or ice and the one time I went off the road, I was going 15kph in a blizzard and made the mistake of following another guy. I watched his tail lights go slowly towards the left and then gently tilt a bit off horizontal...and I very slowly followed him into the ditch in the median of the highway. I've never done that again.

In any case, it is possible to drive in the winter with AS tires without causing or getting into trouble. I regularly drive the speed limit on snowy roads by following four simple rules:

1. Watch out for other drivers who do not know how to drive in slippery conditions.

2. Always keep an eye on road conditions...they can change very quickly,

3. Never do anything quickly...braking, steering, accelerating...drive so you only change the car's velocity or direction very gradually. I've seen so many cars go off the road when the front wheels are pulled left or right by a large rut or deeper snow and the driver tries to swing the car back on track too quickly, or brakes heavily...bang, around she goes and you're in the ditch...or worse, an accident.

4. If you cannot see well enough to follow the above three rules...slow down or get off the road.

This approach is not for everyone...but it is how I was taught and learned to drive in the winter, and it works for me.

I do appreciate the xDrive and I've never driven with AWD.

[stvding]

Originally Posted by Beowulf65

Gee whiz...I've been driving in Canadian winters on AS tires for 47 years now and have never had a problem. I've never had an accident due to snow or ice and the one time I went off the road, I was going 15kph in a blizzard and made the mistake of following another guy. I watched his tail lights go slowly towards the left and then gently tilt a bit off horizontal...and I very slowly followed him into the ditch in the median of the highway. I've never done that again.

In any case, it is possible to drive in the winter with AS tires without causing or getting into trouble. I regularly drive the speed limit on snowy roads by following four simple rules:

1. Watch out for other drivers who do not know how to drive in slippery conditions.

2. Always keep an eye on road conditions...they can change very quickly,

3. Never do anything quickly...braking, steering, accelerating...drive so you only change the car's velocity or direction very gradually. I've seen so many cars go off the road when the front wheels are pulled left or right by a large rut or deeper snow and the driver tries to swing the car back on track too quickly...bang, around she goes and you're in the ditch...or worse, an accident.

4. If you cannot see well enough to follow the above three rules...slow down or get off the road.

This approach is not for everyone...but it is how I was taught and learned to drive in the winter, and it works for me.

Alright. But driving all season in winter is not a good idea, no traction during braking. Or maybe it is just my performance tires...but u cant go wrong with winter tires...

[613Bimmer]

Just had the same storm you got walloped by today in ottawa with more than 30cm of snow on the ground. Tons of people were getting stuck in residential streets that hadn't been plowed but Pirelli Sottozeros + xDrive on the 320 loaner I have means that I had no issues with getting stuck. The only time I nearly got stuck is when I drove onto a packed mound that I didn't see until the last minute and nearly beached the car. Backed out and drove around with no issue. So glad I have xDrive in these conditions.

[stvding]

Originally Posted by 613Bimmer

Just had the same storm you got walloped by today in ottawa with more than 30cm of snow on the ground. Tons of people were getting stuck in residential streets that hadn't been plowed but Pirelli Sottozeros + xDrive on the 320 loaner I have means that I had no issues with getting stuck. The only time I nearly got stuck is when I drove onto a packed mound that I didn't see until the last minute and nearly beached the car. Backed out and drove around with no issue. So glad I have xDrive in these conditions.

I have pirelli as well, bought it from dealership. See my video above. The car got stuck probably had more ground clearance than my f32, but i got through anyway.

[floydarogers]

Originally Posted by Beowulf65

...I do appreciate the xDrive and I've never driven with AWD.

xDrive is AWD. "xDrive" is just the marketing name for BMW's transfer case design, along with the various software systems in the ABS/DSC that support it.

[Beowulf65]

Originally Posted by stvding

Alright. But driving all season in winter is not a good idea, no traction during braking. Or maybe it is just my performance tires...but u cant go wrong with winter tires...

Absolutely, winter tires are a good thing...just sayin' that I get enough traction during braking for my needs with ASs. I have staggered Pirelli Cinturato P7 ASs on my bimmer.

[Beowulf65]

Originally Posted by floydarogers

xDrive is AWD. "xDrive" is just the marketing name for BMW's transfer case design, along with the various software systems in the ABS/DSC that support it.

I meant that before my bimmer with xDrive, I had never driven with AWD. Yes, xDrive is variable ratio AWD.

[floydarogers]

Originally Posted by Beowulf65

I meant that before my bimmer with xDrive, I had never driven with AWD. Yes, xDrive is variable ratio AWD.

Aha! Clarity, just like the skies here in Seattle today! It's a beautiful morning, sorry rest of the continent!