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My sportline has the additional oil cooler behind passenger fog.
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Well, BMW certainly succeeds in confusing everyone with their upgrades. I just took delivery of my 2013 335 with performance power kit and M Sport exhaust. Based on this current info, I would assume the M Sport power kit to be released in March 2013 is a "different" power kit. I just wish BMW would let everyone know what the supposed differences are between the 2 power kits. Based on what I can find on the internets, the only difference may be that the installer is wearing a shirt with the M logo on it.
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12-23-2012, 06:19 AM | #53 |
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My understanding is Z3B is just black grilles with M performance exhaust. It has nothing to do with the PPK.
We worked that out in this misleading thread http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=769870
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12-23-2012, 09:31 AM | #54 |
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and it will cost way more
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12-23-2012, 09:46 AM | #56 |
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The value just isn't there.
Unless you don't care about spending more money than it should be.
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Look at it this way - you can buy "used" for less than you can CPO, right? The CPO comes with an extended warranty, which you pay a little more for. If I were offering a tune with a parallel warranty, I'd need to get something extra for it as a reserve against claims, just like an insurance company does. I also like the fact that Dinan builds racing engines and suspension components for professional venues (such as the BMW-Rileys in ALMS) and has done so for 20+ years. Yes, Dinan's not for everyone, but to say the value isn't there is just not accurate. It depends heavily on what your definition of "value" is, and there are multiple points of view on that issue. You can buy a Challenger R/T, Mustang GT, or Camaro SS with more horsepower than a 335 - all in stock configuration - but which would you rather drive? Bang for the buck, the Mustang is probably going to be the best, but we (on this forum) all drive BMWs because we feel like they're the better value, mostly in terms of overall feel and quality. So we pay more and get less, if you look at it from a pure raw-performance viewpoint.
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I've also ordered the ZB3 option. I forget the exact name. It does deceptively have the word "Power" in it. It's just the exhaust and black grills. I hope you didn't think you took delivery of anything more than that. I say that because of the stickers comment, your second PPK, and your comment about lack of badges in the engine bay. Hopefully, I just misread or interpreted you posts. |
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Z3B is their heavily promoted black grilles and exhaust "power" package for $1387 installed or something.
Yeah most of us got that too. Dinan is actually cheaper per HP/TQ than the PPK, there's no contest ($1700 for 30 ft/lb vs $2000 for ~100 ft/lb) I just wanted to entertain the PPK because the stickers looked sick. Seriously though, I wanted some pep and thought the PpK would safely cover my a$$ until Dinan finishes its exhaustive R&D and I'm impatient. My dealer Installs and warrants Dinan products like crazy-I just saw a customer with an '09 order $10k of Dinan parts and had it installed and warranted by them. My only hesitation is that IF I leave my home dealer, what happens to my 6 year/100k warranty...not too many dealers are as generous.
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It's been my experience since 2001 that any dealer who sells/installs Dinan software and parts will work with Dinan via the parallel warranty provided by Dinan. The dealers themselves don't provide any warranty, but they will not try to pass off problems to the presence of Dinan mods unless it appears that they may somehow be responsible. Most dealers will recognize that an intake or exhaust can't be blamed for a suspension problem, and so forth. Your best bet is to do some investigation of other dealers you might encounter and whether or not they are also Dinan dealers or mod-friendly in general. You are correct in saying that not all dealers are such.
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"Peak engine torque varies with according to selected gear. The performance increase, brought about through engine data modifications, introduces new thermal challenges. This is why, as well as a new control unit that processes the data, there is a larger intercooler." :
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Yeah, no I know, I meant for our F30 series: http://www.bmw.com/com/en/owners/acc...ies_sedan.html
I didn't mean to link the pre-2012 link above...(try this one...http://www.bmw.com/com/en/owners/acc...l=F30&cat=1009)
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