[FotiosF90M5]

Originally Posted by Jamesons Viggen

I am almost positive in 07 I saw a few 300whp dynos.

Yeah the early early n54's were very strong. Mine was built in 06 and was a beast. It's this tranny and gearing that makes this n55 seem quicker I think.

[135Pats]

Originally Posted by fotios335i

Yeah the early early n54's were very strong. Mine was built in 06 and was a beast. It's this tranny and gearing that makes this n55 seem quicker I think.

Yea the DCT really works well, until you get to monster wtq figures it’s objectively superior to 6AT and 6MT. As for “early” N54s being different, I’m fairly certain that’s just an urban legend that got legs on the internet. All N54 teardowns I’ve seen (granted, not many) showed a similar setup with cast pistons and forged rods. There’s always been a debate about whether early run N54s were “forged”, but again that seems to be the product of idle speculation. The N54 is a stronger motor than the N55 when you power mod, and is in many ways overbuilt from the factory, my personal guess is that BMWAG over-engineered the hell out of it to make sure their first FI motor in quite some time wasn’t weak at the knees. That’s great for power hungry people, but for a stock motor there is no doubt in my mind that the N55 is superior. More fuel efficient, more civil and quiet, fewer complexities/greater reliability, less oil hungry, and a really nice OE twin scroll. No, it doesn’t flow as well up top, but for people who don’t plan on serious power modding; it’s the better choice. You guys really shouldn’t be worrying about a mid-decade 350z, it’s not in the same zip code of automobile as your F30. There are 10 second Honda Civics that would put bus lengths on my car from a roll, doesn’t mean I spend my days worrying about them

[FotiosF90M5]

Originally Posted by 135Pats

Yea the DCT really works well, until you get to monster wtq figures its objectively superior to 6AT and 6MT. As for early N54s being different, Im fairly certain thats just an urban legend that got legs on the internet. All N54 teardowns Ive seen (granted, not many) showed a similar setup with cast pistons and forged rods. Theres always been a debate about whether early run N54s were forged, but again that seems to be the product of idle speculation. The N54 is a stronger motor than the N55 when you power mod, and is in many ways overbuilt from the factory, my personal guess is that BMWAG over-engineered the hell out of it to make sure their first FI motor in quite some time wasnt weak at the knees. Thats great for power hungry people, but for a stock motor there is no doubt in my mind that the N55 is superior. More fuel efficient, more civil and quiet, fewer complexities/greater reliability, less oil hungry, and a really nice OE twin scroll. No, it doesnt flow as well up top, but for people who dont plan on serious power modding; its the better choice. You guys really shouldnt be worrying about a mid-decade 350z, its not in the same zip code of automobile as your F30. There are 10 second Honda Civics that would put bus lengths on my car from a roll, doesnt mean I spend my days worrying about them

+1. I don't know why so many people talk like the n55 is some weak ass engine. It's an amazing motor and its very powerful. Every journalist in the world thinks that minus a bunch of n55 bashing forum members.

[justinnum1]

335i owner probably got scared after hitting 70mph.

Also, my old 07 N54 felt noticeably stronger than the N55 in my F30

[buildbright]

Originally Posted by justinnum1

335i owner probably got scared after hitting 70mph.

Also, my old 07 N54 felt noticeably stronger than the N55 in my F30

Different power curve most likely but it might have been. I only say that because I have drove 14 sec cars that feel faster then my F30. I know it's not because I have killed some fast cars.

[inChargeOfIT]

It's a compliment that people compare dedicated 2 seater sports cars to our 4 door sedans.

This is my first 4 door sedan, and i love the fact that I can compete with some pretty amazing sport cars, and still go on a 1000 mile road trip with a few friends and their luggage, all without requiring back surgery when I get home

[NotQuickEnough]

Originally Posted by inChargeOfIT

It's a compliment that people compare dedicated 2 seater sports cars to our 4 door sedans.

This is my first 4 door sedan, and i love the fact that I can compete with some pretty amazing sport cars, and still go on a 1000 mile road trip with a few friends and their luggage, all without requiring back surgery when I get home

I doubt the coupe will be much quicker.. it's embarrassing is what it is. How hard was it to tune the F30 335i to 350hp or thereabouts. BMW was on top of the game in 2007 but now they've slipped back into their old ways.. underpowered compared to competition

[shivaswrath]

Originally Posted by ManiacGT

You can clearly see the kid in the 335i give up after a short burst. The 350z was pulling away slowly only, until the 335i gave up making it look like the 350z pulled away quickly.

Yeah...it totally seemed rigged to me.

[FotiosF90M5]

Originally Posted by NotQuickEnough

I doubt the coupe will be much quicker.. it's embarrassing is what it is. How hard was it to tune the F30 335i to 350hp or thereabouts. BMW was on top of the game in 2007 but now they've slipped back into their old ways.. underpowered compared to competition

Haha, then why does the 335i smoke the competition, all of it, in acceleration in every test?? In acceleration and engine power the F30 n55 and n20 obliterate the competition. How can you not see that? Just because a car claims to have more horsepower or torque does not mean its always faster. Caddy ats 3.6 327 or something, Infiniti g37 330 HP, Lexus IS350 306 HP so on and so forth. The 335i is faster than all of them. Acceleration and power wise it's still not behind the competition. Add a tune and forget it. I do agree however they should have made it at least 330hp. I don't get BMW sometimes.

[Alpine F31]

Originally Posted by JDane07

Driver of the f30 looks about 10...
I'm inclined to blame that

First thing I thought was "driver error".... even if the Z is faster, it shouldn't be THAT much faster. That was a royal ass whoopin'

[NotQuickEnough]

Originally Posted by fotios335i

Haha, then why does the 335i smoke the competition, all of it, in acceleration in every test?? In acceleration and engine power the F30 n55 and n20 obliterate the competition. How can you not see that? Just because a car claims to have more horsepower or torque does not mean its always faster. Caddy ats 3.6 327 or something, Infiniti g37 330 HP, Lexus IS350 306 HP so on and so forth. The 335i is faster than all of them. Acceleration and power wise it's still not behind the competition. Add a tune and forget it. I do agree however they should have made it at least 330hp. I don't get BMW sometimes.

I agree for now but most of those cars are due for a redesign..and now caddy has a twin turbo v6 400hp.

[Roki_014]

Originally Posted by fotios335i

Haha, then why does the 335i smoke the competition, all of it, in acceleration in every test?? In acceleration and engine power the F30 n55 and n20 obliterate the competition. How can you not see that? Just because a car claims to have more horsepower or torque does not mean its always faster. Caddy ats 3.6 327 or something, Infiniti g37 330 HP, Lexus IS350 306 HP so on and so forth. The 335i is faster than all of them. Acceleration and power wise it's still not behind the competition. Add a tune and forget it. I do agree however they should have made it at least 330hp. I don't get BMW sometimes.

y change something if its working, you bought their car rite, me too

[Jadar]

Originally Posted by buildbright

A win is a win but that 350z would have to pull Mid 12's to pull like that. 350z HR are quite fast with test pipes, tune, and Nitrous.

Yeah sorry this is very much a modded 350z, doesnt even sound close to stock. Even with light mods it wouldnt have pulled like that. I ran a Infiniti G37 (328 hp) and we were neck and neck up to 120mph then I started to pull on him a bit. We both maxed out at 155mph my rev limiter hit. We ran agaon from a roll around 80mph he pulled me about 1/2 a car to 100 and I started to reel him in very slowly.

Originally Posted by shivaswrath

2 vs 4 doors...great comparison!

The comparison doesnt bother me, I mean how many times do you see a jb4 N54 running a lambo or porsche on youtube. Nothing wrong with it, a race is a race.

Originally Posted by JDane07

Driver of the f30 looks about 10...
I'm inclined to blame that

Kid looked like he was overly excited and didnt even know what the hell to do. Ive neve seen such a huge grin on someones face while running lmao. Put your damn window up kid JESUS! I bet you he didnt switch that car into sport. Was it even a 335i?

[schnell13]

Also, the 350 has higher gear ratios for a higher top speed. This is why I could take 350's all day with my Altima SE-R. Same motor, same tune, just lower gear ratios for more torque off the line. Thus, this race might have had different outcomes had it started from a stand-still. However, with all of the mods that the 350 had, maybe not. Definitely sounded far from stock in the video...

[infinitekidM2C]

the dorky bmw driver takes away 30 hp

[Lorde]

Originally Posted by DrivenByE30

Well why dont we ask "ScheerSpeed" about it??

he should be able to enlighten us on this ? Did he forget to shift down? did he forget to switch to Sport + ?

"Hi, I was street racing and lost to a 350z! No amount of Euro Delivery can make up for crappy driving. Derp."

[infinitekidM2C]

no words

[Liquid2.0T]

That looks like it took place somewhere in Miami, and there is a 328i with a similar front plate, same color running around. Im questioning whether the car in the video is actually a 335i