"Unacceptable fault in an almost $50k car"

RPM90 · 07-07-2012, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by jtuds

It's all part of the feel of the passionate BMW driving experience, right?

1 of how many?

Troll much?

Look, you too can become a happier person.
Just go ahead and get the car you really want, the BMW 3 series.
If you didn't lust for it, then why would you be here trying to make your Lexus selection seem "better"? Hmm...?

RPM90 · 07-07-2012, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by r3dbimmer89

+1

Another F30 bash from a long term Automobile mag review. Seems like everyone agrees this car sucks dynamic wise without the sport line or M sport.

I've never read a single review that stated the F30 "sucks", dynamic or otherwise.
Your use of "everyone" is hyperbole, or more so, flat out false.

Perhaps your source material is from people who haven't driven an F30 and/or look for reasons not to get an F30.
All of the negative comments about how much the F30 "sucks" come from non BMW owners, and E90 owners.
Give it up already.

svache · 07-07-2012, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DrivenByE30

wow ... so the F30 is a RWD that only wants to live in the colder climate ?

That's why I have the cold weather package in Hawaii

Robin_NL · 07-07-2012, 05:10 AM

Talking about flaws in the F30 interior.

This is a picture of the passengerside front door of a 320d EDE sportline @ my dealer.

You can see the exterior colour(silvergray) where the arrow is pointing at...

I'm happy I chose a dark colour(BSM)

Cheers
Robin

DrivenByE30 · 07-07-2012, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by svache

That's why I have the cold weather package in Hawaii

so do i ! what i wuss i am..

together with the comfort pack, i am ready for my retirement home...

Seems like This thread will be the F30's hall of shame!

Let's gather here the "7" errors of the car...

I wonder what else is imperfect about my car...
but am still waiting a few more days before getting my car...

dmontic71 · 07-07-2012, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by doublevanosrc

BMW always seems to have some issues from cars being exposed to extreme heat. Don't they test these cars in the middle east where temperatures can hover around 120 degrees?? I remember in my E46 coupe the A pillar trim would fall off during the summer due to weak glue.

That happened to my E46 as well, but they did fix it even out of warranty... Every car company has some minor fit and finish issues...

r3dbimmer89 · 07-07-2012, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by RPM90

I've never read a single review that stated the F30 "sucks", dynamic or otherwise.
Your use of "everyone" is hyperbole, or more so, flat out false.

Perhaps your source material is from people who haven't driven an F30 and/or look for reasons not to get an F30.
All of the negative comments about how much the F30 "sucks" come from non BMW owners, and E90 owners.
Give it up already.

Correction...every review of the F30 without sport line seems to say that it isn't as good as it used to be dynamic wise...not really a bad thing since BMW is obviously going a different direction with this car.

r3dbimmer89 · 07-07-2012, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Robin_NL

Talking about flaws in the F30 interior.

This is a picture of the passengerside front door of a 320d EDE sportline @ my dealer.

You can see the exterior colour(silvergray) where the arrow is pointing at...

I'm happy I chose a dark colour(BSM)

Cheers
Robin

Every 3er has had that same part of the door exposed from the interior...its sort of a BMW thing.

bimmerjph · 07-07-2012, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Robin_NL

Talking about flaws in the F30 interior.

This is a picture of the passengerside front door of a 320d EDE sportline @ my dealer.

You can see the exterior colour(silvergray) where the arrow is pointing at...

I'm happy I chose a dark colour(BSM)

Cheers
Robin

My E46 is like that a little bit too. I don't think that is anything new to the F30.

patrice03 · 07-07-2012, 12:53 PM

you have it in other cars as well.
as for fit and finish so far no issue in my series 3 (although i had on my f20), but clearly bmw is behind audi, the problem is that the driving gap is also narrowing, with audi a3 , 4 etc being seen, evaluated as procuring as much or almost "joy" to drive than bimmers. bmw has to be careful as it can not loose in all fronts..

patrice03 · 07-07-2012, 12:54 PM

now talking about doors, if you push the plastics in the lower part of the door, it feels somewhat loose and generates some noises, not very reassuring..

BMWrules7 · 07-07-2012, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by gatoman39

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The 100-degree highs took another toll on the car: the driver's side dashboard endcap -- the piece of hard black plastic between the dashboard and the driver's door cutout -- warped and pulled away from the dashboard. "I wouldn't say that it's broken," wrote associate web editor Jake Holmes, "but that's an unacceptable fault in an almost $50k car that is only six months old."

Well, BMWs like Ball Park Franks...

They plump when you cook 'em!

(haha remember that commercial growing up?)

bmw246 · 07-07-2012, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DrivenByE30

big deal...

cant you just push it in?

do you now know why BMW is one of the most desirable & profitable companies...
you get to participate to the final assembly of your car LOL

hahahaha

jwickers · 07-08-2012, 06:46 AM

That's kind of disappointing for sure, leave your car in the sun, find it falling apart ... BMW is the new Lancia ?

Seriously though, that's probably a manufacturing defect on that car that just manifested itself with the heat, hence it happened on a "6 month old car". Unless you want to believe all F30 will self disassemble in a year.

David328M-Sport · 07-08-2012, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Robin_NL

Talking about flaws in the F30 interior.

This is a picture of the passengerside front door of a 320d EDE sportline @ my dealer.

Probably because it wasn't built in Rosslyn, S.A. hehehehe

chip2058 · 07-20-2012, 11:39 PM

My car has always done this. Its a habit for me to push it back in the morning. It has nothing to do with the heat but rather a broken clip. I've been meaning to bring it in. But frankly I hate my dealer and don't want to spend the time.

Jadar · 07-21-2012, 09:09 AM

Is this a DIY guie or something?

Jadar · 07-21-2012, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by dmontic71

That happened to my E46 as well, but they did fix it even out of warranty... Every car company has some minor fit and finish issues...

Yep so true.

crow · 07-25-2012, 02:04 AM

This doesn't surprise me. When I went to the dealer and looked at the f30. I thought the inside finish felt cheap. The f30 inside doesn't feel solid for a $50k car. I thought the e90 was built better inside.

The X Men · 07-25-2012, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by crow

This doesn't surprise me. When I went to the dealer and looked at the f30. I thought the inside finish felt cheap. The f30 inside doesn't feel solid for a $50k car. I thought the e90 was built better inside.

I agree, if you push on the interior trims and panels of the F30, some of them will make a squeaking noise or crackling noise, whereas the E90 is solid. This might be due to the increase use of hard plastic in the F30's interior.

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patrice03 Private First Class 13 Rep 164 Posts Drives: z23 318d f30 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: europe iTrader: (0)	you have it in other cars as well. as for fit and finish so far no issue in my series 3 (although i had on my f20), but clearly bmw is behind audi, the problem is that the driving gap is also narrowing, with audi a3 , 4 etc being seen, evaluated as procuring as much or almost "joy" to drive than bimmers. bmw has to be careful as it can not loose in all fronts..
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patrice03 Private First Class 13 Rep 164 Posts Drives: z23 318d f30 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: europe iTrader: (0)	now talking about doors, if you push the plastics in the lower part of the door, it feels somewhat loose and generates some noises, not very reassuring..
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jwickers Second Lieutenant 5 Rep 243 Posts Drives: 328i GT Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Shanghai - China iTrader: (0)	That's kind of disappointing for sure, leave your car in the sun, find it falling apart ... BMW is the new Lancia ? Seriously though, that's probably a manufacturing defect on that car that just manifested itself with the heat, hence it happened on a "6 month old car". Unless you want to believe all F30 will self disassemble in a year.
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