[BMV///M3]

Originally Posted by ///M235i

Right. One could purchase a 5 series and have all the same options of a 6 series GC for less. Hmmm ...

Good challenge.

I suppose the way I see it, the 6 series holds a certain prestige as it's near the top of BMW hierarchy. When I see 650 M sport, I think "man that's a nice car." On the other hand. When I think of a 4 series GC, it just doesn't have that same effect.

[deadlyrhythm]

Originally Posted by ///M235i

Q: Why?
A: Because Audi A5 Sportback


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^^^^ And these are popular in Germany. Direct competitor. It'll do well vs the A5 in my opinion.

Not my cup of tea though... Yet

[///Mangler]

Originally Posted by w3rkn

I think BMW execs are drinking too much coolaid...


Can someone please explain the purpose of this car, been a BMW enthusiast for 30+ years.. I am lost as to why they would even put forth the effort, let-alone the massive costs.

China.

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[Pure]

Cool!

[F30_JC]

Ewww..

[btbossman]

Originally Posted by ///M235i

Shittier headroom? Comes with the coupe design territory
Equal handling? Shows how much you know about the 4 series
Less performance? Please elaborate
Weak styling? Sure, that's subjective
Sub par quality? Again, not sure where you are getting your information

Driven quite a few 3's and 4's with and without DHP...My 3 has DHP and feels exactly the same as the 4 with DHP minus some body roll in tight corners(which I attribute to low CofG) If Im not mistaken the new m3 is faster around nurburgring than the M4...I suppose in the same way m5 is slightly faster than m6.

I dont own a 4 but my 3 is made like shit(compared to all the other bimmers Ive had in recent years)...all the 4s Ive been in rattle and creak in the same spots when you apply pressure, and seem to be made with the same quality standards(sub par to 5er and above) If you dont know that yet IDK where you get the impression you're so knowledgable on 3/4?

[SoCali E36]

Originally Posted by ///M235i

The Audi does look amazing. We have yet to see an actual f36 (only renders and camo'd tester cars so far), so I'm reserving judgement on which one will actually look better. I have a pretty good hunch the 4 GC will not disappoint.

With BMW I no longer hope for the best but always expect the worst. Since the e9x generation ended, I have been impressed all but only 3 times by their work. the Z4, 6 Series, and now the 2 Series. Other than that, its hard to like any of their other line ups. The 5 and the 7 are great looking cars too but nothing to say WOW about. The 3 and the 4 are so-so but have potential to look good with mods.

[Falafel Combo]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Very,very soon.

Scott said very, very soon. Not just soon. Not very soon. Very, very soon. Keeping my fingers crossed for a reveal this Friday or the following Monday. Come on baby! Let's see how ugly and pointless this car really is!

[Yay-Z]

Originally Posted by AlanCorey

so basically its a 3 series. got it.

Exactly

[aajami]

Originally Posted by w3rkn

I think BMW execs are drinking too much coolaid...


Can someone please explain the purpose of this car, been a BMW enthusiast for 30+ years.. I am lost as to why they would even put forth the effort, let-alone the massive costs.

I'm not a fan of this car, but what massive costs are you talking about?

This car is built on the F3x platform and will use two of BMW's three existing gasoline engines (the N26 and the N55). As you can tell from the spy shots, there are minimal design changes in the exterior and none in the interior. BMW is simply amortizing the cost of R&D work it did on existing platforms, engines, and designs across this model.

As far as BMW's bean counters are concerned, making this car saves them money.

[Falafel Combo]

Originally Posted by aajami

I'm not a fan of this car, but what massive costs are you talking about?

This car is built on the F3x platform and will use two of BMW's three existing gasoline engines (the N26 and the N55). As you can tell from the spy shots, there are minimal design changes in the exterior and none in the interior. BMW is simply amortizing the cost of R&D work it did on existing platforms, engines, and designs across this model.

As far as BMW's bean counters are concerned, making this car saves them money.

Absolutely. Not sure what massive costs he was referring to either.


This will be the easiest and quickest money BMW ever makes. Existing platform, engine, transmission, suspension, interior and pretty much everything else ---> call it something fancy like 'Gran Coupe' and mark the price way up.


Easy money for BMW, and plenty of fools like myself to pay for it.

[Paulotheb]

Forget about the looks. I just love the way they taped over the badges on those spy shots. Cos that's NEVER a BMW underneath is it??!!!!

[Saphirschwarz]

When the F**K

are we goin to see

that F*CKING THING ????

(ahem just lettin go a little)

[Falafel Combo]

Official reveal is March at the Geneva auto show (whatever that is called). "Accidental" reveal can be any day now. I'm speculating here, but I think we will see something "un-officially leak" in the next couple of weeks.

[kevinlevrone]

This looks worse than the sedan, there is no reason to build it.

[Falafel Combo]

Originally Posted by kevinlevrone

This looks worse than the sedan, there is no reason to build it.

Agreed. Keep your sedan. Problem solved.

[kevinlevrone]

First official pictures of the 4-series Gran Coupe:

http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=941358