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F30 328i M Sport vs IS250 F-Sport vs ATS 2.0T (by Edmunds)
Featured on BIMMERPOST.com This test is an summer tire equipped 328 MSport vs the smaller engined cars. This is a pretty decisive win for the F30. The wider summer tires and Euro brakes proved their merit with a short 109ft stopping distance, .90 on the skidpad oh and a new record for 1/4 mile time of 13.8 second at a LOW 97.7mph, which indicates it HOOKED well off the line. Full review: http://www.edmunds.com/bmw/3-series/...ison-test.html
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Makes me feel good about my decision - can't wait for it to arrive. Thanks for passing the link along.
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05-13-2013, 11:31 AM | #3 |
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good read.
the 328i has similar 1/4 mile as the 328hp G37
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Yeah, it must be the torque+8spd auto.
C&D had a 13.9 with an 8spd auto Sport, so this is no longer a "unicorn time" to break 14's. The C&D car trapped 1-2mph higher showing the MSport may hook better at the expense of wheel speed.
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i will say your statement seems to imply the 328 is better than the 335 as it wins more comparos. I think it's more cause the 328 is the big fish in its class, rather than superior per se than it's brother. ( you're not saying that but seems to hint at it.). Another way of looking at it is, for 2500-3k more the 335 would have whoooped these cars too,, and also hang with some others in a slightly more powerful class. It's up to the buyer to see if that's worth it. It's almost like a boxer kicking ass in middle weight class. And one slightly heavier in heavy weight, with more competitors. They are both good boxers, just cause the heavy weight gets pushed around more it's more because the heavy weight class has stronger opponents. And if the middle weight guy went up to heavy weight he too would struggle. the price difference between 2 similarly equipped cars isn't thaat much in my opinion. That doesn't mean more money is better either, its almost as if the cars are designed for us to pick what we need/want. (fuel economy, 4 vs 6 cylinder, power, balance etc etc)And well positioned at that. Not starting 328 vs. 335 here, both fantastic cars, and good share. Just responding to the way your first sentence was phrased.
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i dont see why people say lexus is ugly. doesnt look ugly in nebula grey or ultra sonic blue. But i would say the lexus has the better interior
the is250 is also getting a turbo 4 in 2015MY |
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I see what you are getting at-but it's not the intent of my first sentence. It was stated as why I started a NEW thread instead of posting in what had already become 11 pages. See my definitive post in the 328 vs 335 post below. I state, examples where the media might even say the 328 is better and I summarize that I do not have to agree-that the person who selects either car is getting something of benefit, there is no winner or loser. But as you said, the 328 does a good job right now of flying the F30 flag as its very class competitive and the 335 has more work cut out for it. Quote:
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IS250 fascia=Hannibal
Is it just me or does the IS250's fascia:
Look like this:
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No, it's more this:
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I try and be even keel and not be overly biased about the subject. So I figured pointing out that post is like the cliff notes of it all and my take at least.
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Let's put this way... I owned a 2010 IS 250 RWD and I replaced that car for a 335xi, why? The engine, it sucks big time... slow, week, sounds good but that is about it, I could no longer live with it so I trade on a Honda odyssey for my wife, it was that bad. So if lexus just moved over that engine in to their new body style model expecting to compete with BMW, they were sooo wrong, and that is a done deal. 328i has the best engine on its class, as you mention, but 335i has an engine that is called "a marvel", and if combine the 8 automatic = perfect, of course add more weight, but who tracks their car every day??? I want to feel the power and sound while I'm driving and be happy with my decision for a lonnnnggg time... that is why I choose the 335i If I wanted the fuel efficiency + nice and yet powerful engine, I would choose the 328i but I would hate myself every time that engine hits idle as it sounds 4 cyl diesel like. |
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Great to see another comparo win.
I gotta say, 6 months into ownership I still enjoy the drive, the power is nice (and gives a great feel off the line in sport mode) and I guess coming from a GTI with a 4-banger turbo with DI the sounds are what I'm used to. I only wish M-Sport was available in Canada when I bought mine but hey, you can't have everything. As an added bonus the X-drive worked fabulously with my winter tires to keep me out of trouble despite some heavy snowfalls. Now it's time to take it to the track but I'm still in the chicken stage of ownership and dread what the track will do to my tires and brakes. |
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My X5 at the 1/4 will smoke the IS250 and match the ATS 2.0 and not too far off the 328i with trac on.
I think this says a lot about the competition BMW has, they are just not at the same level, save for the S4
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"Where the Lexus does trump the BMW is in steering feel and precision. We'll say it again: The 2014 Lexus IS 250 F Sport has better, more precise, sharper and more communicative steering than the BMW 3 Series."
Hahaha ... wasn't this what use to make a BMW a BMW?
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Did this 328 have DHP. Every day I drive both my e70 with the hydraulic set up and my 335 with DHP and the difference is not night and day if any. Anyone else here with an Exx and the f30 with DHP who can either confirm or deny this? It's funny the E70 steering was criticized by car and driver for being too heavy at parking speed, this is exactly what DHP fixes. Lol
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well as a soon-to-be F31 328i touring guy, i had researched a lot from C250 Estate, A4 2.0 Quattro Avant. After driven the bmw, it is so much powerful and fast than the other two. In addition, the other two are ageing in their model lifecycle.
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Thanks for sharing. Unfortunately for BMW, you can get an IS 350 F-sport for $43k. Add the Nav/Lev and you're at $46k.
http://pressroom.toyota.com/releases...4+is+sedan.htm I'd like to see a price-based comparison of the IS 350 F-Sport against the $45k 328i.
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That ATS had a higher slalom than the 335i, 328i and S4 edmunds tested.
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I drove an e46 for eight years before getting my f30, and I can say that the f30 is vastly more nimble and responsive, even though it is a larger car. BMW also has managed to almost entirely dial out any feel and feedback from the steering, pedals, etc. I think BMW sees this new approach as an advantage over the competition. Audi doesn't do steering feedback either.
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