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      10-06-2013, 03:48 PM   #221
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Regardless what anyone thinks. The 4er GC will 100% be my next car. It's absolutely perfect for what I want. Putting in an order as soon as BMW lets me. This car tastefully modded will be stunning. I also love the hatch. Very cool car. Hopefully even more power though. I also happen to think my 335i is an amazing car and as far away from an "epic fail" as anything can get. Some of you guys IMO are crazy. my 2 cents. Fire away.
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      10-06-2013, 04:49 PM   #222
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      10-06-2013, 05:52 PM   #223
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looks like a 3 series. waht's the point of a 3 series when you make this? unless they are ditching the 3. I don't understand.
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      10-06-2013, 07:17 PM   #224
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I disagree. I am a single male that has a 2011 e92. I love it but there are occasions where I drive my friends around or even my parents, who aren't getting any younger. I've been thinking about going to the new 335i but lamenting some of the loss in sporty appearance. The 4GC then, could be the best of both worlds. It will all depend on pricing for me. If it is a couple grand more than a regular 4 then that may be too much. $1,000 more than the 4 and I'm sold.

I've only read 5 pages so far but didn't see a release date yet (in U.S.) Hopefully, it's before March as that's when my existing lease is up
I read somewhere the pricing will be similar to the 6er system-- in other words, 4GC base price will be between the coupe and sedan models.

I would consider a 4GC if they made a ///M version and it wasn't too big/heavy vs a F80 M3.
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      10-06-2013, 11:26 PM   #225
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Dont like all these new lineups from BMW, 4gc is absolutely pointless
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      10-06-2013, 11:48 PM   #226
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If you look up the definition of coupé, most definitions will mention "two door".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coupé

For me, adding 4 doors converts it into a sedan, which is the 3 series. There's no reason they couldn't make a 3 series with a large backdoor. In fact, I thought that's what the 3 series GT was :-)

The 4 series gran coupe will be heavier, longer, and more expensive than the 3 series. So basically, it's a 5 series.
I REALLY wish the marketing of anything fusiform was not considered a coupe' perhaps im a purist but 4-doors will never be a Coupe' to me
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This has a very high probability of being my next car.

I love the idea of a coupe, especially while I am still a young adult without kids. They are sporty and sleek and typically tuned to provide a more exhilarating ride.

While I can almost count on two hands how many times I've had back seat passengers, I still find myself opening the back doors quite often to get to bags, briefcases, or other items I've placed in the back seat. I'm not sure how I would feel about losing the convenience of this.

I think a "gran coupe" would provide the best of both worlds in terms of looks, practicality and fun.
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I REALLY wish the marketing of anything fusiform was not considered a coupe' perhaps im a purist but 4-doors will never be a Coupe' to me
I completely agree. BMW has some serious bloat with their model lines. Between "Gran Coupes", "GT" models, and putting five M badges on every car that rolls out of the plant, they're going to lose focus. Too much energy is going into these weird models, and the core models are going to suffer long term.

I fear as BMW becomes more mainstream (and adds all these models to "fill out their product line"), they're going to lose what made them so good.

I hope I'm wrong, but I'm afraid that in the next 5-10 years, Porsche is going to be the only "mass market" enthusiast brand left.
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why do we need two different style 3 series again?

so you rename the 3 series coupe, the 4 series to set it apart from the sedan. ok fine. But now we need to have a four door 4 series too? this all seems like a huge waste of R&D. why not put more money in to the quality (fit and finish) test drove the new model and it drives and feels like a Hyundai. it was soo bad I kept my e90. Wayy better car IMO.

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      10-07-2013, 02:29 PM   #230
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what's next, a 4 series 3 doors??? I don't get it, they want a coupe not called series 3 and now they will have a series 4 grand coupe... when it will stop...
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I disagree. I am a single male that has a 2011 e92. I love it but there are occasions where I drive my friends around or even my parents, who aren't getting any younger. I've been thinking about going to the new 335i but lamenting some of the loss in sporty appearance. The 4GC then, could be the best of both worlds. It will all depend on pricing for me. If it is a couple grand more than a regular 4 then that may be too much. $1,000 more than the 4 and I'm sold.

I've only read 5 pages so far but didn't see a release date yet (in U.S.) Hopefully, it's before March as that's when my existing lease is up
I read somewhere the pricing will be similar to the 6er system-- in other words, 4GC base price will be between the coupe and sedan models.

I would consider a 4GC if they made a ///M version and it wasn't too big/heavy vs a F80 M3.
If that pricing model holds true I could deal with that.
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So, just for fun... Based on 2013 Q1 & Q2 Global figures....

6 series GC accounts for over 50% of all 6 series sales, with the Coupe doing about 25% and the Cabriolet picking up the remainder.
Sales of the two door variants dropped by ~2800 units, vs a gain of ~6470 units of the four door 6-er.
On either side of the 6er GC, the 5er Saloon increased volume by ~7380 units whilst the 7er saloon dropped by ~3410 units.

So.. it appears the GC models will be popular... but, are they increasing sales, or moving them about? It's simple cigarette-packet statistics, but the contribution to the sales numbers the 6GC made, maybe offset by customers moving from the Coupe or the Cabriolet, or to something sportier than a 7er...

... not to forget though that some of the customers will have been retained to the BMW brand rather than looking to a CLS or an A7.

Also, noticed that with over 10,000 units in this period the 5GT outsold any of the outgoing coupe or convertible 1's & 3's (bar the E92 which sold a few hundred more), and still outsells the Z4, and each 6er variant.

Like I say, there appears to be a market for these new models, people are buying them. So, is it that hard to make sense of a 4GC?
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It's odd that people who seem to profess their love for BMWs would dislike additional models to choose from.
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