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So do I. I am in the UK.
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having little choice in the uk buying at a year old.
most of the BMW AUC cars don't seem to have xenons/angel eyes. it's one option i wouldn't be without if buying from new... (though i don't see why BMW couldn't have all their cars with angel eyes, even if they kept the halogens.) i thought an easy solution would be a blue coated halogen bulb that could filter the yellow out and leave a crisp white light, but couldn't even find anywhere selling any PW24W lamps.... so doing a search here i found the link for the IJDM LED replacements http://www.f30post.com/forums/showth...=645684&page=3 ordered them on the 22nd through ebay and they arrived today the 30th. (not a bad post time from California) it took just a couple of minutes to fit them and they worked perfectly with no errors. they are not as powerful as the 24w bulbs, but are still quite bright, very white, and easily visible. they could probably actually do with having 3-4 LED's on each side and make them longer as they only just reach inside the reflector. i've also ordered MTEC 'white 4350k' halogens for my high beam,low beam, and fog lamps that i had on my previous E90. they also are a little dimmer than yellow halogens but plenty bright enough with a crisp white light. i'm happy enough with the end result, (though not as happy as i would have been with xenons....) anyway here's a pic with them fitted. |
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It isn't law to use them in the UK - only to have them fitted for EU type approval.
I've been through the loop with BMW UK as I took an F30 for a test drive in June/July and the option to turn them off was on the iDrive. When I picked up my new car on 1st September 2012 it wasn't and I wasn't very happy. I wrote to BMW UK and asked them what had happened to the option so they pointed me to the handbook I acknowledged that the information of how to turn off the DRL was in the handbook but, unfortunately, not in the car and asked for an explanation as I wanted the option reinstated. They then implied that the handbooks were "universal" which was why they had mistakenly referred me to it. I then asked if that was so why didn't the the USofA version of the handbook (which I had found online) mention anything to do with diesel engines (for instance) if the handbook was universal. No plausible response. They next told me it was EU law to use the DRL so I found the EU regulations, which I sent them, confirming that the fitting of DRL was necessary for type approval but there was no legal requirement to use them. Then I was told it was UK law so I contacted the Department for Transport and sent BMW UK the response confirming that it wasn't UK law either and requesting that the option be reinstated. They then told me they had contacted the Technical Department who said that the option to reinstate the DRL option was not possible. I then sent them a copy of the code required (which I'd got from this site) which would reinstate the DRL option but they then said that there were lots of things floating around the internet but they weren't genuine. I finally suggested that I would get the option reinstated (I don't think I've got the bottle to do it myself so I'd have to find somebody in the UK to do it for me - any offers gratefully accepted and of course I'd pay) but would not expect them to delete the option if it went in for a service and had a software upgrade from BMW. I pointed out to them that this obviously wouldn't be a problem as they had already told me that it was technically impossible to reinstate the option so it must be technically impossible for them to delete it, wouldn't it, and if they did I would charge them for getting the option put back again and expect to be paid. Flat refusal! The upshot is that they won't reinstate the option (despite there being no legal reason why they shouldn't) but they won't guarantee that they wouldn't delete the option if I had it reinstated "unofficially". I get the impression that if it was an official "option" which they could charge a couple of hundred quid for after you'd ticked the box when it was being built they could do it but, as it isn't, you can go and boil your head. Very sour taste in my mouth not helped by the bloody dreadful disc (and caliper) corrosion my car is suffering from. |
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I think it depends on software version, which is what he is complaining about. My pro nav doesn't have the option to switch off DRL.
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The DRL LED rings really make the car standout, so glad I ticked that option. |
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Yeah... In bright sunshine, would rather not have them off tbh. If you could turn them off, would that mean in auto, the DRL wouldnt be on when it's sunny?
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A few years ago if you were driving along minding your own business and saw something with lights on during the day it was likely to be a motorcycle and you made sure that the vulnerable person on it had plenty of room to do what motorcyclists do best. I believe that their safety has been compromised by every vehicle on the road now having lights on - not that it makes a lot of difference to some of the dozy buggers I see driving around. Additionally, in bright daylight, I think DRLs look bloody pretentious. I'm quite capable of turning on my lights in the dark or inclement weather conditions - I don't need to be treated like a buffoon by a car manufacturer. Apart from that everything in the garden is almost rosy and it'll be better when I've been down the pub in a couple of hours! |
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Just make sure you hav'nt had a "Skin Full" and keep your lights on.
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I don't agree with the motorcycle argument at all I also think the premium car manufacturers in particular want their DRLs to be instantly recognisable as their brand.
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Personaly, I loath the "fairy light" approach to DRLs - Audi and Jaguar being prime perpetrators of this crime against good taste! One reason I didn't buy a second Jaguar XF was the horrid lights, and it was one reason why I left Audi for Jaguar before that! Ok, I didn't move solely because of the lights, but it was a contributory factor. I like the BMW approach with the rings - clean, simple but still distinctive, and even the non-Xenon approach with a simple, squared light is tasteful, especially in comparison to the overly ornate designs of some manufacturers. |
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From then many governments suggested driving with lights on was a 'good idea', which has gained momentum. Understood that Baz P doesn't want to be treated like a buffoon, but it is very clear how many buffoons are out there. Just look at the number that drive around in dusk with only side lights (i.e. parking lights) on or nothing at all. I for one, am glad about the introduction of DRL's. (except for those little Citroens that have lasers for DRL's) |
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