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      06-16-2014, 03:47 PM   #89
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Agree, every one bar 1 Ive seen has been Lapiz blue. Great work on the deal!
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Not to the extent of Lapiz Blue.

Posted 2 weeks ago:

Lapiz Blue 65
Pearl Black 18
Pure White 12
Red 3
Oryx White 5
Limestone grey 7
Night Blue 9
Reflex Silver 2

League Table on colours

1st Lapiz Blue
2nd Pearl Black
3rd Pure white
4th Night Blue
5th Limestone Grey
6th Oryx White
7th Red
8th Silver

Lapiz Blue 65
All other colours 56
What's the figures for F3* EBII v's the rest? quite a high % certainly on here anyway.
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A friend at work has bought a Golf R with DSG so we went out today to compare the cars straight line performance. We did not include country roads as the comparison could be distorted by the drivers willingness to push quicker than the other. As both are auto boxes it made it very easy to test the acceleration as you both plant your foot and go! There were 2 of us in my car and him alone in the R.

We did quite a few standing start runs with me in front and then role reversing. Each time the 335D was quicker off the mark. I guess the amount of torque definitely benefits the initial take off.

In mid range it was negligible! We both put the cars in whatever gear was required from 40mph rolling start and floored it.
The DSG made very good work in mid range as when I tested the manual R it was slower I guess due to the gear changes. i ended up 3-4 car lengths in front of the manual R.

I must admit the R does sound very nice and you can hear the gear changing from within the 335D.

This Saturday we are both off on the RR to dyno the cars so that will also be interesting to see what they are both putting out!
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      07-28-2014, 07:31 AM   #93
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A friend at work has bought a Golf R with DSG so we went out today to compare the cars straight line performance. We did not include country roads as the comparison could be distorted by the drivers willingness to push quicker than the other. As both are auto boxes it made it very easy to test the acceleration as you both plant your foot and go! There were 2 of us in my car and him alone in the R.

We did quite a few standing start runs with me in front and then role reversing. Each time the 335D was quicker off the mark. I guess the amount of torque definitely benefits the initial take off.

In mid range it was negligible! We both put the cars in whatever gear was required from 40mph rolling start and floored it.
The DSG made very good work in mid range as when I tested the manual R it was slower I guess due to the gear changes. i ended up 3-4 car lengths in front of the manual R.

I must admit the R does sound very nice and you can hear the gear changing from within the 335D.

This Saturday we are both off on the RR to dyno the cars so that will also be interesting to see what they are both putting out!
Interesting stuff... what speed were you measuring the rolling starts up to? I suppose in my head I was thinking that the lighter Golf would have the advantage off the line, but perhaps the Rear biased xdrive has better traction than the Golf, which is FWD biased I believe? If so then it will waste some time shuffling torque to the rear i guess.
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Interesting stuff... what speed were you measuring the rolling starts up to? I suppose in my head I was thinking that the lighter Golf would have the advantage off the line, but perhaps the Rear biased xdrive has better traction than the Golf, which is FWD biased I believe? If so then it will waste some time shuffling torque to the rear i guess.
We measured the rolling starts on up to 70mph but i wasn't paying attention to my speedometer!!

I am unsure why but every time same result from a standing start. Regardless of who got there foot down first.
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      07-28-2014, 09:21 AM   #95
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All the torque of the D will be helping the standing starts. Over a longer distance the Golf may pull it in but interesting results. Both pretty swift cars.

Not surprised the test did not include a handling aspect, the Golf would walk all over the 335d on that aspect.
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All the torque of the D will be helping the standing starts. Over a longer distance the Golf may pull it in but interesting results. Both pretty swift cars.

Not surprised the test did not include a handling aspect, the Golf would walk all over the 335d on that aspect.
I know how good the handling is on the Golf R but mine does have some respectability of having the ACS springs fitted.
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Very interesting bladders. Will be interested to see how much they are both pushing out and to compare the RR figure to Guys car. Take note what Guy said with the difficulties he had on his run, something about tieing it down well and being I'm the right gear/ mode. Can't remember now.
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      07-28-2014, 12:07 PM   #98
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We have both a DSG Golf R and a f31 335D with plenty of extras so even heavier than standard.

Done this on a cheapo iphone app. Probably not the most accurate of things. Both using launch control. Although the DSG is so much easier to engage launch control.

335D times


Golf R times


So very similar performance
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Interesting figures Ross. Very close.

You also must let us know where you have your private road in NI to let you get up to 90 mph
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Guess Ross the big question is - which of your cars do you prefer to drive???
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      07-28-2014, 05:51 PM   #101
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@rosshutchie's figures:

335d £50k Hearse:
0-60 4.36s
0-80 7.18s

Golf R DSG £35k Hatchback:
0-60 4.35s
0-80 6.94s

Would you say the Golf R is a touch faster? Seems to be pulling away at higher speeds.

I know for certain that the R is far better on the twisty bits than my 330d M Sport. The 330d rolls like a drunken sailor in comparison.

Different cars fulfilling different purposes. Both excellent IMO. However, I would prefer driving the R any day and every day.
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      07-29-2014, 02:56 AM   #102
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I hope you've spec'd nice wheels....

As my friends red one looks awful with the standard wheels.

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@rosshutchie's figures:

335d £50k Hearse:
0-60 4.36s
0-80 7.18s

Golf R DSG £35k Hatchback:
0-60 4.35s
0-80 6.94s

Would you say the Golf R is a touch faster? Seems to be pulling away at higher speeds.

I know for certain that the R is far better on the twisty bits than my 330d M Sport. The 330d rolls like a drunken sailor in comparison.

Different cars fulfilling different purposes. Both excellent IMO. However, I would prefer driving the R any day and every day.
There's not £15k of a difference more like £6-7k... when spec'd the same and discount is taken into consideration, or even less!.. the performance difference is negligible (in a straight line) a car length or two at 80.
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      07-29-2014, 04:33 PM   #104
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We both haven't tried out cars in launch control so cannot say the times for that. Based on our tests without LC then it was different.
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      07-29-2014, 06:09 PM   #105
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Quite a hard comparison and I can't see very many people considering either a Golf R or a F31 335D as they are in completely different markets. A Golf R estate if of comes out maybe

I would sooner go out for a blast in the R than the F31, more than likely because I only have the Golf just over a week. But have to remember ones a family estate car and ones a 'hot hatch'.

I find without launch control the 335D will be away quicker. I think it is down to the 8 speed box, very short first gear along with stacks of low end torque.

The R has a 6 speed DSG, so a longer first gear and it not reaching its peak power figures for that split second longer would help the 335D pull away.

I would say the launch control benefits the Golf more so. Its quite an aggressive launch compared to the 335D. Holds the revs around 4k rpm.
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Any pics of the Golf Ross to show the masses what they are missing lol.
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Golf R is an excellent choice as it ticks so many boxes as it's so competent in so many areas. I've come from the VAG stable into F31 ownership purely for the change from that and Audi.
This particular power plant installed in the past S3 / MK6 R / Edition 30 is soooo tuneable. The major differences now are integral turbo and manifold going back to an IHI turbo from the old Garrett K04 and using a much more sophisticated Haldex 4WD drivetrain.
I sold a tuned Edition 30 running KW Clubsports Quaiffe Diff running 360+bhp and it was a brilliant all rounder. Great for the supermarket runs and long halls and a brilliant track tool.
The new Golf R will be the same even if Autocar say the new Seat Cupra pips it on track.

APR LLC the biggest VAG tuner worldwide using their interchangeable stock thru to performance map via cruise control have already cracked the MK7 GTI via the ECU without the need for a piggy back solution. They are the only tuner to accomplish this at present. I spoke to Awesome GTI in Manchester the main agent for APR who state the initial testing of the R and S3 are giving an amazing 370+ bhp on stage 1 mapping. Stage 2 and 3 with fuel pump intake and exhaust changes will sue reel yield well over 400bhp.
A great cat as standard and an even greater pocket rocket to mod for the track excursions. Manual for track in my experience is the way to go though!

http://www.goapr.co.uk/products/ecu_..._gen3_mqb.html

Take a look at their R&D on their main web site. They support VW Germany factory teams VW Cup in the past few years and produce very high end products in the VAG tuning stable.

This maybe the car I may look at next after my F31 320d X drive!
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I hope you've spec'd nice wheels....

As my friends red one looks awful with the standard wheels.

Good call, the forged (?) 19s are very very nice in the grey and any VW forum has pages of diamond cut wheel woe.
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      07-31-2014, 11:09 AM   #109
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Sound likes the R's are very tune-able! I guess the new Golf 400R is keeping the same engine so it shows the power achievable by this engine!
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Op, I came from a Golf mark VI to an F30 and I love the switch. Obviously more money but I have noticed the upgrade in ride and build quality. Having said that I agree on size - I like the smaller Golf and the F30 is a bit of a beast. Parking sensors and rear camera sorted my concerns but maneuvering in/out of the drive surrounded by the neighbors' cars is harder.
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