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      12-19-2013, 08:18 PM   #1
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435i vs 335i

I have f30 335 i, can you gime a reason why i should go w 435i m sporrt , i never had a two door car, plus it b eb2 m sport just like my 335i? Can you please list few reasos, i dont think 435 is any faster than 335 at least that i would even notice
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      12-19-2013, 09:14 PM   #2
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335 over 435 any day. 4 doors are better than 2. I had a 2 door GTI because they didn't sell it as a 4 door when it came out. Not very practical.
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I have f30 335 i, can you gime a reason why i should go w 435i m sporrt , i never had a two door car, plus it b eb2 m sport just like my 335i? Can you please list few reasos, i dont think 435 is any faster than 335 at least that i would even notice
Your money would be better spent on a car that will provide a better experience.......like the new ///M3 or ///M4. A lateral move - which is what a 335i-to-435i is - is pointless my friend.
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      12-19-2013, 09:26 PM   #4
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Your money would be better spent on a car that will provide a better experience.......like the new ///M3 or ///M4. A lateral move - which is what a 335i-to-435i is - is pointless my friend.
For me 20k move is pointless my friend especially with what i had to go through with the 335, only reason i would go w 435 is its little different from 335 and also only if they give me a good deal w buy back
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For me 20k move is pointless my friend especially with what i had to go through with the 335, only reason i would go w 435 is its little different from 335 and also only if they give me a good deal w buy back
Just out of curiosity, where are you getting the 20k figure from? The new M3/M4 will base in the low 60's (..somewhere between 61-65k estimated), and will include more standard equipment. The MSRP on my 335i was 57k; I paid 53k. There isn't that much of a price gap between a fully loaded 335i and a base ///M3 or ///M4 with more standard equipment (..i.e..navigation, etc.).
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Your money would be better spent on a car that will provide a better experience.......like the new ///M3 or ///M4. A lateral move - which is what a 335i-to-435i is - is pointless my friend.
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Just out of curiosity, where are you getting the 20k figure from? The new M3/M4 will base in the low 60's (..somewhere between 61-65k estimated), and will include more standard equipment. The MSRP on my 335i was 57k; I paid 53k. There isn't that much of a price gap between a fully loaded 335i and a base ///M3 or ///M4 with more standard equipment (..i.e..navigation, etc.).
Ok i exaggerated but i also feel like if u r getting m3 or m4 base w out any option like some guy at might work dont even get it, if i was to spend extra 8 k i think i would go w corvette looks more sportier
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I have f30 335 i, can you gime a reason why i should go w 435i m sporrt , i never had a two door car, plus it b eb2 m sport just like my 335i? Can you please list few reasos, i dont think 435 is any faster than 335 at least that i would even notice
Umm…your car is max 2 years old…why are you even asking the question?
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Umm…your car is max 2 years old…why are you even asking the question?
1 year 3 months they might be buying it back finding out on monday cuz of problems i had w it, plus once a month in shop for multiple days, so i am trying to figure out what to do
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Just out of curiosity, where are you getting the 20k figure from? The new M3/M4 will base in the low 60's (..somewhere between 61-65k estimated), and will include more standard equipment. The MSRP on my 335i was 57k; I paid 53k. There isn't that much of a price gap between a fully loaded 335i and a base ///M3 or ///M4 with more standard equipment (..i.e..navigation, etc.).
Ok i exaggerated but i also feel like if u r getting m3 or m4 base w out any option like some guy at might work dont even get it, if i was to spend extra 8 k i think i would go w corvette looks more sportier
I'd drive a lightly optioned M3 over a loaded 335i.
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I'd drive a lightly optioned M3 over a loaded 335i.
I said base no options lol lightly options is different and now we talking 70k
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I'd drive a lightly optioned M3 over a loaded 335i.
I said base no options lol lightly options is different and now we talking 70k
Base now includes navigation and some other things, so is the car really 'base'????
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F32 is slightly faster across lines if that matters to you. Not by a huge margin though. For example, a 435i with xDrive is rated to 60 in 4.7 seconds; a 335i with xDrive is rated to 60 in 4.8 seconds (both with automatic). A 435i without xDrive is rated to 60 in 5.0 seconds; a 335i without xDrive is rated to 60 in 5.1 seconds (again, both with automatic). Similar differentials for manuals I believe, i.e., .1 second spreads to 60 for the F32 vs. F30.
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F32 is slightly faster across lines if that matters to you. Not by a huge margin though. For example, a 435i with xDrive is rated to 60 in 4.7 seconds; a 335i with xDrive is rated to 60 in 4.8 seconds (both with automatic). A 435i without xDrive is rated to 60 in 5.0 seconds; a 335i without xDrive is rated to 60 in 5.1 seconds (again, both with automatic). Similar differentials for manuals I believe, i.e., .1 second spreads to 60 for the F32 vs. F30.
Thanks finally an answer to my question, anything else?
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Thanks finally an answer to my question, anything else?

Since I'm Mr. Helpful this evening, here's what else you can generalize about the differences between the cars: the F32 is more expensive vs. the F30 for any comparable line. However, my understanding is that the on-paper price differential isn't as big as it first looks because the price on the F32 includes a few things standard that are options on the F30. Still ends up being more expensive vs. an F30 though, just not as much as on first impression. There's also at least one option that you cannot get on the F30 that is available on the F32: the LED headlights. BMW does this in part to distinguish the F32 as more upmarket.


An F32 will ride lower (by about 2") than an F30 -- it has the lowest center of gravity of any production BMW right now. The chassis of the F32 is more rigid than the chassis of the F30 which means better control and handling, particularly in corners -- both changes were done to make the F32 the more "sporty" choice between the two models.
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I had a f30 335i that caught on fire on thanksgiving due to my friends evo parked right behind my it. I replaced it with a 435i, and while i miss the sedan, i am loving the coupe. it sits much lower and the cockpit has a more enclosed feeling. the backseats are also pretty big for a coupe. I also initially liked the f30 msport look more than the f32 but the f32 looks amazing in person.

I will post pictures of the fire and the damage to my old car when i have time. it was quite the ordeal, but it ended up working out in the end
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I had a f30 335i that caught on fire on thanksgiving due to my friends evo parked right behind my it. I replaced it with a 435i, and while i miss the sedan, i am loving the coupe. it sits much lower and the cockpit has a more enclosed feeling. the backseats are also pretty big for a coupe. I also initially liked the f30 msport look more than the f32 but the f32 looks amazing in person.

I will post pictures of the fire and the damage to my old car when i have time. it was quite the ordeal, but it ended up working out in the end
Do you miss anything else about the car, is the 4 any better in interior, faster, louder, can you tell its longer and wider and lower?
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Since I'm Mr. Helpful this evening, here's what else you can generalize about the differences between the cars: the F32 is more expensive vs. the F30 for any comparable line. However, my understanding is that the on-paper price differential isn't as big as it first looks because the price on the F32 includes a few things standard that are options on the F30. Still ends up being more expensive vs. an F30 though, just not as much as on first impression. There's also at least one option that you cannot get on the F30 that is available on the F32: the LED headlights. BMW does this in part to distinguish the F32 as more upmarket.


An F32 will ride lower (by about 2") than an F30 -- it has the lowest center of gravity of any production BMW right now. The chassis of the F32 is more rigid than the chassis of the F30 which means better control and handling, particularly in corners -- both changes were done to make the F32 the more "sporty" choice between the two models.
thanks and honestly i dont even like led headlights, i ll wait for them untill they become standard on this car
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F32 is slightly faster across lines if that matters to you. Not by a huge margin though. For example, a 435i with xDrive is rated to 60 in 4.7 seconds; a 335i with xDrive is rated to 60 in 4.8 seconds (both with automatic). A 435i without xDrive is rated to 60 in 5.0 seconds; a 335i without xDrive is rated to 60 in 5.1 seconds (again, both with automatic). Similar differentials for manuals I believe, i.e., .1 second spreads to 60 for the F32 vs. F30.
BMW does seem to market the F32 as being "sportier", but with the same engine, hp/torque numbers, transmission and final drive ratio - but 55 lbs heavier, I kinda doubt that the coupe is actually a tenth of a second faster than the sedan.
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BMW does seem to market the F32 as being "sportier", but with the same engine, hp/torque numbers, transmission and final drive ratio - but 55 lbs heavier, I kinda doubt that the coupe is actually a tenth of a second faster than the sedan.
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BMW does seem to market the F32 as being "sportier", but with the same engine, hp/torque numbers, transmission and final drive ratio - but 55 lbs heavier, I kinda doubt that the coupe is actually a tenth of a second faster than the sedan.
i don't think the F32 is any faster in a straight line but if you read any of the numerous reviews it's been stated the F32's stiffer chassis and lower center of gravity make it handle a bit better around the track...many have also said the steering has been corrected...so yes you won't feel anything, if at all, in a straight line but it "should" handle somewhat better being lower and wider based on simple physics alone
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