[fe7565]

Originally Posted by 0taman

Thanks for your help! The pin code matched, but I decided not to update anything for now so as not to take any chances. I deleted all pairings between the phone and the car's internal Bluetooth and CarPlay again, and also went into the CarPlay settings on the IPhone and deleted the device there. Then I did all the necessary pairings again and everything finally worked!

Make sure in your iPhone under Bluetooth settings designate your device as “car stereo”

[haikf20]

Hallo Firefly1337 , ich habe mittlerweile sehr viele Posts von dir durchgelesen auf Bimmerpost über das Andream Head Unit und den updates. Meine Version ist
MCU: 415199BT-HW7-210416(B1280)
Ich habe folgendes Produkt im Jahr 2021 gekauft: https://www.android-car-dvd.de/colle...-f21-2013-2017

Ich kann seit langem kein handy mehr automatisch verbinden und teilweise freezet der Bildschirm. Da du so viele threads über updates gepostet hast, wollte ich dich fragen und bitten ob du die neuste updateversion mir schicken könntest und vielleicht kurz sagen könntest wie ich das update anschließend durchführe. Ich wäre dir so unendlich dankbar, da mir der Andream support nicht helfen will mit Updates.
Danke und dein f20 ist echt schick!!!

[haikf20]

Hello everyone, I‘m new here!
I have a head unit for apple carplay from andream:
https://www.android-car-dvd.de/colle...-f21-2013-2017

MCU: 415199BT-HW7-210416(B1280)
Does anybode know the newest software update? Because I have some issues with mine from 2021.
Also would be nice how to install the software.
Thank you very much!!!

[Mandinca]

I am really hoping someone can help me before I completely lose my mind.

2016 F85.

I bought an MMI box from eBay, it looks just like any other MMI with the added harness, bluetooth antenna, USB connector etc.
At first I had an Android phone so set it up to use AA. I programmed the radio preset 8 to be the Aux in as it says to do in the instructions and connected the harness and optical cable as per the instructions. I tucked everything away and also tucked away the BT antenna and the USB port (didn't use it).

So my issues are :

AA is sporadic. Most of the time Spotify works but then for no apparent reason at all it just doesn't. The only thing that seems to fix it is to turn the car off and on again - hardly ideal on the highway :-)
Also, the phone.....this is the part that is driving me insane. Almost every time someone calls me they can hear me but I can't hear them. If I dial out it is the same problem, they can hear me but I can't hear them. Here's the really bizarre part......if I just use the phone as a normal phone handset when this happens the phone is somehow posessed and won't dial out at all.....as if the MMI has control of it.

So then my Android reached the end of it's life so I bought an iPhone 12.
Went to use Carplay and everything worked as it should.....once. Now the iPhone is doing exactly the same as the Android did. Spotify works most of the time but the phone functions might just as well not be there.

Tonight I tried to use the maps and get directions - the carplay voice control didn't appear to work so I switched over to the BMW OEM and tried voice control - it clearly couldn't "hear" me.
When I went back to Carplay the maps were open with the directions for the destination !!!

This thing is so random and I do not do random with tech. It either works or it doesn't - this has a mind of it's own....and mostly doesn't work.

Lastly, when any of this is happening I can't even use the in car (BMW OEM) BT phone option. It's as if the MMI somehow has control.

Does anyone please have any suggestions before I give up and rip this POS out ?
Like I said, the Spotify works most of the time but the phone....it's so unreliable that I can't use it.
I asked the seller on ebay and they said - try plugging it into the USB port....very helpful, what is the point of having BT then ?

Thanks in advance and sorry for the rant - it's infuriating me.

[fe7565]

Originally Posted by Mandinca

I am really hoping someone can help me before I completely lose my mind.

2016 F85.

I bought an MMI box from eBay, it looks just like any other MMI with the added harness, bluetooth antenna, USB connector etc.
At first I had an Android phone so set it up to use AA. I programmed the radio preset 8 to be the Aux in as it says to do in the instructions and connected the harness and optical cable as per the instructions. I tucked everything away and also tucked away the BT antenna and the USB port (didn't use it).

So my issues are :

AA is sporadic. Most of the time Spotify works but then for no apparent reason at all it just doesn't. The only thing that seems to fix it is to turn the car off and on again - hardly ideal on the highway :-)
Also, the phone.....this is the part that is driving me insane. Almost every time someone calls me they can hear me but I can't hear them. If I dial out it is the same problem, they can hear me but I can't hear them. Here's the really bizarre part......if I just use the phone as a normal phone handset when this happens the phone is somehow posessed and won't dial out at all.....as if the MMI has control of it.

So then my Android reached the end of it's life so I bought an iPhone 12.
Went to use Carplay and everything worked as it should.....once. Now the iPhone is doing exactly the same as the Android did. Spotify works most of the time but the phone functions might just as well not be there.

Tonight I tried to use the maps and get directions - the carplay voice control didn't appear to work so I switched over to the BMW OEM and tried voice control - it clearly couldn't "hear" me.
When I went back to Carplay the maps were open with the directions for the destination !!!

This thing is so random and I do not do random with tech. It either works or it doesn't - this has a mind of it's own....and mostly doesn't work.

Lastly, when any of this is happening I can't even use the in car (BMW OEM) BT phone option. It's as if the MMI somehow has control.

Does anyone please have any suggestions before I give up and rip this POS out ?
Like I said, the Spotify works most of the time but the phone....it's so unreliable that I can't use it.
I asked the seller on ebay and they said - try plugging it into the USB port....very helpful, what is the point of having BT then ?

Thanks in advance and sorry for the rant - it's infuriating me.

Cannot suggest much until you post firmware information of the MMI. Read the fist page of this thread.

[Jenly Tang]

Originally Posted by hagncola

For my opinion, the youtube app is useless. Airplay could be related,that for your device, the firmware has issues but i don´t know. Get in touch with your reseller to get the last version.

As far as i know the last versions for Andream/RoadTop devices:

Andream 1.6.16R2
Roadtop XX176R2 (XX is the placeholer for the model)

Since Iphone was updated to IOS17, there will occasionally be some problems with the Airplay connection.
Before connecting Airplay, you need to disconnect carpaly's Bluetooth and Wi-Fi connections. Even then, you need to try many times before you can connect it normally. Because the IOS system has updated some programs, we are also changing our software for Adapted to IOS17 and later systems.

[haikf20]

Originally Posted by Jenly Tang

Since Iphone was updated to IOS17, there will occasionally be some problems with the Airplay connection.
Before connecting Airplay, you need to disconnect carpaly's Bluetooth and Wi-Fi connections. Even then, you need to try many times before you can connect it normally. Because the IOS system has updated some programs, we are also changing our software for Adapted to IOS17 and later systems.

Do you know the newest version for:
https://www.android-car-dvd.de/colle...32-f33-f36-f80
That would be very helpful for my device. Thank a lot!!!

[usta83]

The bonus with the 176 firmware is that you will have an option to use full Bluetooth audio instead of AUX-IN. Read the posts about that in this forum.

Could you please explain more? What is the best settings with that firmware? Connect car and MMI or just the MMI? I have not found it here...
Thank you?

[fe7565]

Originally Posted by usta83

Could you please explain more? What is the best settings with that firmware? Connect car and MMI or just the MMI? I have not found it here...
Thank you?

Here we go. Only 7 pages back.

https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...ostcount=12893

[usta83]

Thank you. Will try that.

Anyone an idea why sometimes I have to connect my phone manually with Carplay BT?

[AbnormallyAspirated]

Hi all!

I haven't posted here since 2022. I have this box which I bought from a aliexpress seller in 2021. I have since forgotten everything I knew on this topic LOL:

MCU Version 21.6.7.116
CUST Version v3.6.0.2.ly.b2
HW Version BMW_NBT2_1_G

I was never able to get any support out of the seller, but I did get [the current] firmware from another supplier that seemed to help.

I'm having frequent disconnects and warm [never full/cold] reboots. No idea if it is hardware, installation, firmware, or some combination.

Any advice? is there newer firmware I can get from anyone (I cant get it from seller).

At this point, I'm considering "starting over" with a new box if there is a cheap one that is better, and can still use my cheap aftermarket front and rear cameras I added to this box.

Advice/help appreciated.

Dave

[usta83]

Originally Posted by fe7565

Here we go. Only 7 pages back.

https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...ostcount=12893

This has reduced the latency of the music a lot!

[fe7565]

Originally Posted by usta83

This has reduced the latency of the music a lot!

Good information. Glad it helped!

[Coderedpl]

Recently got mine and installed in my F80. I purchased the MMI box from Andream for the sole purpose of Android Auto, my 2018 VW had it and my wife's 2018 Q7 has it but my 2018 BMW doesn't 🤦‍♂️

Pretty easy to install, a bunch of fiddling with the wires to get it all back together. The screen right angle connector gave me a bit of trouble to find that perfect spot to put the screen back on.

Everything appears to work properly, thankfully we can use full Bluetooth from the car which is awesome, plays music and takes calls without an issue. I tested it a few times.

Some things I noticed:
* No factory touchscreen capabilities, not a big deal as i rarely use the factory one anyway

* Can't change to next song using wheel controls like you normally would (while on the MMI/Android Auto screen)

* When you're on a call with someone, you'll see it on Android Auto, but if you go back to the BMW menu mid call, you'll still see the call there too.

* Same goes for the music. I have Spotify playing on Android Auto, I see it there but if I go back to main screen, I also see it on the car side

* Get in car, start car and it connects via wireless pretty quick for Android Auto.

* Wired android auto works aswell with the USB connection but there is a delay. You'll connect it, go to wired auto. It'll say to connect device, and then a few seconds later on that screen it'll start.

* Minor annoyance is the delay of shut off, I'm assuming it has to do with the 10-15 minutes before car goes to sleep. I rarely lock my car in my garage and sometimes I'll come home and start doing things inside said garage, and I'll turn on my Bluetooth speaker. During that 10-15 minute window, my phone just keeps trying to connect and reconnect to both the WiFi and Bluetooth of the MMI box, causing interruptions of playback but also notifications on the phone saying, oh android auto is available blah blah. This also seems to happen if I wake my car up for whatever reason like when I went to vacuum the interior, and it kept causing my music to stop because it would try to connect to the MMI box.

* If you want to use the "YouTube" app, you'll have to turn off use Car Bluetooth option. Makes sense to me.
* Rear camera works without issue
* Microphone works without issue

I haven't messed around with it much more yet but it does seem to work for what ifs supposed to do, granted it will have some limitations but what I'm most happy about is that there isn't a loss in Audio Quality thanks to using car BT.

[fe7565]

Originally Posted by Coderedpl

Recently got mine and installed in my F80. I purchased the MMI box from Andream for the sole purpose of Android Auto, my 2018 VW had it and my wife's 2018 Q7 has it but my 2018 BMW doesn't ��‍♂️

Pretty easy to install, a bunch of fiddling with the wires to get it all back together. The screen right angle connector gave me a bit of trouble to find that perfect spot to put the screen back on.

Everything appears to work properly, thankfully we can use full Bluetooth from the car which is awesome, plays music and takes calls without an issue. I tested it a few times.

Some things I noticed:
* No factory touchscreen capabilities, not a big deal as i rarely use the factory one anyway

* Can't change to next song using wheel controls like you normally would (while on the MMI/Android Auto screen)

* When you're on a call with someone, you'll see it on Android Auto, but if you go back to the BMW menu mid call, you'll still see the call there too.

* Same goes for the music. I have Spotify playing on Android Auto, I see it there but if I go back to main screen, I also see it on the car side

* Get in car, start car and it connects via wireless pretty quick for Android Auto.

* Wired android auto works aswell with the USB connection but there is a delay. You'll connect it, go to wired auto. It'll say to connect device, and then a few seconds later on that screen it'll start.

* Minor annoyance is the delay of shut off, I'm assuming it has to do with the 10-15 minutes before car goes to sleep. I rarely lock my car in my garage and sometimes I'll come home and start doing things inside said garage, and I'll turn on my Bluetooth speaker. During that 10-15 minute window, my phone just keeps trying to connect and reconnect to both the WiFi and Bluetooth of the MMI box, causing interruptions of playback but also notifications on the phone saying, oh android auto is available blah blah. This also seems to happen if I wake my car up for whatever reason like when I went to vacuum the interior, and it kept causing my music to stop because it would try to connect to the MMI box.

* If you want to use the "YouTube" app, you'll have to turn off use Car Bluetooth option. Makes sense to me.
* Rear camera works without issue
* Microphone works without issue

I haven't messed around with it much more yet but it does seem to work for what ifs supposed to do, granted it will have some limitations but what I'm most happy about is that there isn't a loss in Audio Quality thanks to using car BT.

Nice write up!

I use CarPlay, but some of these may apply universally or to AA...

For steering wheel control scroll, try to code (Bimmercode expert or other).
These are CIC and NBT, so if you have NBT EVO use the equivalent codes:


BASIS_KOMBI_MMI_LIST = aktiv

or...

HU_NBT > KOMBI_CIC > kombi_low

and MMI_List > aktiv


----------------------
Phone call issues:

Make sure that in the phone Bluetooth settings the device is set to "car speaker" and that you have given the myriad of permissions that Android requires for BLE and wifi connections.

If no go: try to delete all BLE connections from car and MMI and phone and re-pair all of them again ( I know it's a pain)

If no go: then may want to try to use only BLE between the phone and the MMI only...or the phone and the car only (do not see much benefit).

==================

The MMI seems to boot up at times a fraction later than the HU. This causes an internal CID bus error that you cannot see unless you use ISTA+, but you can ignore it. But this is also happening when powering off the HU and the MMI. That's when you see the "No Signal" in the CID. This is something that short of a hardware solution the Chinese manufacturer should be fixing via coding.
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I tried using YouTube but could not set it up. Gave up after a couple of tries since it's not a priority. How did you get yours working?

--------------------------

Yes, as long as you are in BLE range of the car with your phone, it will want to stay connected or may reconnect.

At times, if you go out of BLE range, and then return about 10-20 mins later (assuming that the HU did not yet go to sleep) the MMI will not reconnect to my phone via BLE. May be 1 out of 10 times. I have to press BACK button for 3+ secs to reboot MMI and then it reconnects 19 out of 20 times. If that does not work, I may have to delete the phone to MMI BLE link and re-pair again.

[Nath4n]

Originally Posted by Migz71

This is not version 1.7x update its just a mcu update. Is there a 1.7x update out for the Andream mmi's yet? Cheers

What about re-reading my post again? Try it a bit slower...

I never said it's FW update.

[davidalme]

Originally Posted by fe7565

Nice write up!

I use CarPlay, but some of these may apply universally or to AA...

For steering wheel control scroll, try to code (Bimmercode expert or other).
These are CIC and NBT, so if you have NBT EVO use the equivalent codes:


BASIS_KOMBI_MMI_LIST = aktiv

or...

HU_NBT > KOMBI_CIC > kombi_low

and MMI_List > aktiv


----------------------
Phone call issues:

Make sure that in the phone Bluetooth settings the device is set to "car speaker" and that you have given the myriad of permissions that Android requires for BLE and wifi connections.

If no go: try to delete all BLE connections from car and MMI and phone and re-pair all of them again ( I know it's a pain)

If no go: then may want to try to use only BLE between the phone and the MMI only...or the phone and the car only (do not see much benefit).

==================

The MMI seems to boot up at times a fraction later than the HU. This causes an internal CID bus error that you cannot see unless you use ISTA+, but you can ignore it. But this is also happening when powering off the HU and the MMI. That's when you see the "No Signal" in the CID. This is something that short of a hardware solution the Chinese manufacturer should be fixing via coding.
-------------------------------------

I tried using YouTube but could not set it up. Gave up after a couple of tries since it's not a priority. How did you get yours working?

--------------------------

Yes, as long as you are in BLE range of the car with your phone, it will want to stay connected or may reconnect.

At times, if you go out of BLE range, and then return about 10-20 mins later (assuming that the HU did not yet go to sleep) the MMI will not reconnect to my phone via BLE. May be 1 out of 10 times. I have to press BACK button for 3+ secs to reboot MMI and then it reconnects 19 out of 20 times. If that does not work, I may have to delete the phone to MMI BLE link and re-pair again.

Hi,

I have the same problem regarding the connection between the phone and the car only when I unlock it. Spotify starts playing music and a message pops up on my phone that Android Auto or Waze is running. This annoys me so much because when I vacuum my car without switching on the ignition, there is a connection between the RoadTop box and my phone. Do you see a solution to this?

What exactly do you mean by what you wrote: "This is something that short of a hardware solution the Chinese manufacturer should be fixing via coding." It is something that can be solved via a local USB update?

Full text from you for a bit more context:
The MMI seems to boot up at times a fraction later than the HU. This causes an internal CID bus error that you cannot see unless you use ISTA+, but you can ignore it. But this is also happening when powering off the HU and the MMI. That's when you see the "No Signal" in the CID. This is something that short of a hardware solution the Chinese manufacturer should be fixing via coding.

Best,

David

[fe7565]

Originally Posted by davidalme

Hi,

I have the same problem regarding the connection between the phone and the car only when I unlock it. Spotify starts playing music and a message pops up on my phone that Android Auto or Waze is running. This annoys me so much because when I vacuum my car without switching on the ignition, there is a connection between the RoadTop box and my phone. Do you see a solution to this?

What exactly do you mean by what you wrote: "This is something that short of a hardware solution the Chinese manufacturer should be fixing via coding." It is something that can be solved via a local USB update?

Full text from you for a bit more context:
The MMI seems to boot up at times a fraction later than the HU. This causes an internal CID bus error that you cannot see unless you use ISTA+, but you can ignore it. But this is also happening when powering off the HU and the MMI. That's when you see the "No Signal" in the CID. This is something that short of a hardware solution the Chinese manufacturer should be fixing via coding.

Best,

David

The MMI powers on when it gets power from the car. The power on time depends on the internal hardware of the MMI and the software boot time. The engineers would have to make either hardware or firmware changes to make the MMI boot up faster than the HU and CID as to avoid errors on the car’s bus not seeing the CID. The MMI sits between the CID and the HU.

The auto music play at start up is written in the firmware. It starts if you have the HU menu set to Multimedia => Phone. You maybe able to set your phone not to allow auto play. Some others suggested to set an automation routine in the iPhone that stops the music playing when Carplay starts/connected.

I rather have the MMI connect to the car automatically when the phone is in range, even if annoying, than not.

Do not expect Apple or Samsung level sophistication and user integration from a $220 Chinese hack.

[perfegram]

Originally Posted by perfegram

Hi there! I installed Andream (CIC version) on my E63. CAN bus is connected in-line between the iDrive controller and the car.

Generally it works, but after getting in the car the MMI unit does not work for a while, like 30-60 seconds until CarPlay appears on the screen. Till then I can't control CIC, but I see the OEM picture. Is there a fix for it?

The problem has been solved by the updating MCU to the version 23.8.1.116 (August 2023 I guess) from here:
https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...ostcount=12373

And ISPBOOOT.BIN (1.6.16_n the latest one for CIC) from the sharepoint link post:
https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...ostcount=11917

There's also an update for MCU at the sharepoint, but the file modification date is Feb 2023, so I guess it's not the one I have and not the latest.

[usta83]

Originally Posted by fe7565

Good information. Glad it helped!

But I have switched back. The sound quality is way lower.

[Gee Cee]

Hi All,

New to the forum. Decided to move away from leasing and picked up a 335D Touring at the weekend.

The car was highly spec'd, inc. Pro Nav, but being a 2015 model and NBT does not have the Apple Carplay functionality I'd like.

I've been reading through this thread at the various MMI options and like the sound of the Mr12Volt one, but that would use the existing 8.8 screen which is a noticeable step backwards in terms of screen resolution, clarity & colour etc, from the screen in the 2021 3 series touring I had as my last lease.

I've seen (from reading on here) that integrated automotive offer an OEM upgrade to the newer ID6 screen that already has carplay and is touchscreen. Their case study video on their website talks about the other benefits of the upgrade, namely nav, full-width screen, GPS, reversing camera, etc, but my car has all of those already. And at £1.2k it's not a cheap upgrade, so I'm wondering if there's an alternative I've not seen yet to upgrade the screen as well as adding carplay?

TIA

[fe7565]

Originally Posted by Gee Cee

Hi All,

New to the forum. Decided to move away from leasing and picked up a 335D Touring at the weekend.

The car was highly spec'd, inc. Pro Nav, but being a 2015 model and NBT does not have the Apple Carplay functionality I'd like.

I've been reading through this thread at the various MMI options and like the sound of the Mr12Volt one, but that would use the existing 8.8 screen which is a noticeable step backwards in terms of screen resolution, clarity & colour etc, from the screen in the 2021 3 series touring I had as my last lease.

I've seen (from reading on here) that integrated automotive offer an OEM upgrade to the newer ID6 screen that already has carplay and is touchscreen. Their case study video on their website talks about the other benefits of the upgrade, namely nav, full-width screen, GPS, reversing camera, etc, but my car has all of those already. And at £1.2k it's not a cheap upgrade, so I'm wondering if there's an alternative I've not seen yet to upgrade the screen as well as adding carplay?

TIA

There is another thread here (look for Android HU 11 / 12 /13) for Android Head Units that is built into an after-market Chinese screen. I installed one a few years ago for $450 and uninstalled it after two weeks. It was too reflective. Check with that thread and ask them if this glare issue was resolved and also what the current screen resolution is.

The other option is to go OEM screen, but that brings with it more hardware upgrades and coding issues for a 2015 car, which are time consuming and takes time to learn unless you are willing to spend over $1K for someone else to do it.