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MId 20's more like. This 328i I have loaned is doing 36MPG out of town being "Nursed" and I mean "Nursed", when I drive it like I would drive a diesel it shows 25MPG if I am lucky.
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And I'm talking about normal driving conditions. For 95% of driving, the 30D does sound better and go better than the 35i. Between 1000 and 3000 rpm it has a nicer, more bassy rumble, more useable power and returns better mpg. I'm not denying that on full reheat the 35i is the nicer engine in every way but to enjoy what it does better than the 30D, you'd have to be getting less than 20mpg average and driving pretty hard. The 30D can do 20mpg at 155mph
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I'd bet the 330d is better than the M135i in pretty much all aspects as well.
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http://cars.uk.msn.com/blog/inside-t...8-fa83cfbfbe08 The M135i is getting low 40s on mway cruise as well. Quote:
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Why I oughta put you over my knee and spank yo' ass. In a purely parental way, you understand, not ... you know ... gay or owt.
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We need more mpg data, and that takes time and experience to get the true picture of a model's consumption. The average showing up on Honest John's Real MPG site for the 328i saloon is 38.6mpg for the auto, so setting the pattern of what it can do. Don't forget the 6-pot petrols can deliver some impressive results when cruising at around 70mph. My 5-series will be around 40mpg at a constant 70mph. We still haven't got much data on the 330d, but first 'longer use' postings on this site, averaged about 41mpg, didn't they? I jest, but that is giving us a clue to consumption. The Honest John Real MPG figure for the F10 530d auto is showing 38.8mpg. What's the typical 3-series improvement on the five, for a similar engine, about 3mpg as an average? Of course we will get the high figures, "my 330d does 50mpg", etc., but the averages are what sets the true baseline for comparing consumption. HighlandPete |
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It is impressive BUT no booting involved at all, just a cruise. I had the 330D M Sport touring for a days drive and it showed 53MPG on the same driving areas with some Booting thrown in So in my area with my style the diesel shows more driving grunt and way better MPG> I must be lucky to live out of town. If I lived in London no way would I bother with any engine size above 1 litre, you just sit in first gear all day long. My conclusion would be your MPG is only relevant to the local environment the car lives in.
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Whilst I don't yet know, I fully expect that my most common commute will return me over 50mpg once I get the 330D. I get around 25mpg in my current car so that's gonna be epic I have a ten minute drive to the M42 then a forty minute cruise on the M42 followed by a ten minute drive into south Birmingham. My second most common commute is the same to the A5 then a few junctions of the M6 Toll to Cannock so I hope to get similar mpg from that journey too. It's also motorway all the way to ten minutes from the in-laws, motorway to within fifteen minutes of my Sister's house, an A50 cruise to 5 minutes from me Mum's house. One of the main reasons we moved to Castle Donington in 2004. We live on the intersection of the M1, M42 and A50 The only awkward place to get to from here is Manchester. So we don't go
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Not long now. It's November
TBH, my target is 45+ for an "average" tank which will include both commuting and being a little more ... playful ... on trips out
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I'm in a similar position, my driving is rural and light driving conditions. So can get quite impressive figures in some of the driving. But a lot of my current driving is short trips, school runs for the grandsons, so influences the long term average. My 330d was 37mpg over 55k miles, I would call the use 'mixed' conditions. 535i is showing 31.5mpg (brim to brim) over 2k miles, so pleased with that for 'mixed' driving. Cost is about 2 pence per mile more for fuel, about 10%, (due to fuel choice, premium diesel vs. RON 97), so it is not really a cost of fuel issue. I'd certianly not have bought the 535i if I lived in a city or dense urban environment. Same when I had the V8, I'd see high 20's even into the 30's up here, but driving in Wiltshire and around Bath with work, I'd not see 20mpg. HighlandPete |
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Hovering around the 20s is just depressing. It's what prompted me to get rid of the MPS even though I've loved this car more than any of the other twenty or so I've had.
my old man's about to retire and looking to buy his "dream car" to keep for the foreseeable future. He's currently favouring a Porsche Panamera to replace his 530DGT and whilst it's an epic car, 20mpg has gotta grate over the years ... but then you consider cruising to his house in the Dordogne in a Panamera and suddenly it makes sense
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He's had a stream of Range Rovers and 5 series recently and loves the GT. It is a brutish thing from behind though
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It is amazing how two drivers can do the same trip in the same car and record wildly differing consumption figures. I don't try to 'hypermile' any car I own. I am very good at predicting and forward thinking my drive, which saves a huge amount of fuel. My fuel consumption as a result is in the mid to high returns for a particular car. My current C220CDI merc has averaged just over 52mpg throughout it's life (50k miles), which is not in the realms of 'My 220 just did 65mpg' type headlines, but way above the average of mid 40's. Fuel consumption, is therefore unique to the owner IMO, being plus or minus x% over/under base line figures for a particular car. |
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I understand how different my driving is when I am a passenger in with someone else (I used to do driving audits, so was often in with colleagues on drives). For example if I am lets say 500m from a traffic light that is green, I know damn well it won't be green when I get there so automatically come of the gas. Usually, other drivers will stay on the gas, and even if the light changes to red they still stay on the gas until 'braking time'. I usually time it right so that I am still in motion by the time the light has turned to green again. This 'not stopping' technique saves a massive amount of fuel, but many drivers are oblivious to the situation just mentioned. If people think that eco driving means going slow, they should see me enter a roundabout when there is no other cars to give way to, taken near the limit, as again, I avoid slowing too much which means I don't have to accelerate much the other side either. Acceleration is the killer of economy. |
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A European study on reducung fuel consumption, concluded the biggest fuel savings could be made by 'driver training' on how to drive for fuel efficiency. So many variables, but we still read across the forums, magazines, etc., "my car doesn't get the mpg the manufacturer states....", as if there is one rate of consumption. I still come across folks who don't grasp electrical load uses fuel. HighlandPete |
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I've driven the A82 up to Inverness (along Loch Ness) many times, in all kinds of conditions. The most economical in virtually any car, is when the road is empty and you can keep up a decent speed. Slow uses more fuel as you waste on slowing and accelerating. As an example, when I was running a Passat TDI I did the trip several times in one week, all in similar weather conditions. One trip I didn't have any cars causing me issues, or need to slow down unnecessarily in 60 miles. So could set my pace and I returned home with a better mpg, (over 60mpg) but more importantly a much higher average speed. HighlandPete |
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