[jjrandorin]

Originally Posted by InsideMan

Dealership has to deal with 3 payments and 3 are waived. It's a 6 month window for dealership payoff.

If a dealership does a pull ahead, they must buy the car. This is an important aspect of the transaction that most forum people don't take into consideration. If you try and negotiate a skinny deal and have a trashed lease, it won't always work well for you.

Forum sales account for .0001% of a dealerships total sales. The sales aspect comes into play when a dealer can call a client and waive 6 payments and get them in a new car. Client appreciates the offer and moves on to the next one...

This is what I was trying to say in my post above, but said better with fewer words (lol). I tend to be wordy...

I am not a dealer rep or a person on the "inside" but do understand how a lot of this works, which is why I was trying to give an explanation to why "I heard mileage will be waived if you lease another car with them?" statement was not really true (but could happen in some cases).

[omaralt]

Originally Posted by InsideMan

Dealership has to deal with 3 payments and 3 are waived. It's a 6 month window for dealership payoff.

If a dealership does a pull ahead, they must buy the car. This is an important aspect of the transaction that most forum people don't take into consideration. If you try and negotiate a skinny deal and have a trashed lease, it won't always work well for you.

Forum sales account for .0001% of a dealerships total sales. The sales aspect comes into play when a dealer can call a client and waive 6 payments and get them in a new car. Client appreciates the offer and moves on to the next one...

i see. thanks for the explanation. so in my case, i have 5 payments left. So there are two payments to deal with ($1400) so i'm coming into the deal with pretty much $1400 in negative equity.. sounds right?

[jjrandorin]

Originally Posted by omaralt

i see. thanks for the explanation. so in my case, i have 5 payments left. So there are two payments to deal with ($1400) so i'm coming into the deal with pretty much $1400 in negative equity.. sounds right?

Sounds right to me, yes, if your payments are $700 each.

Now it depends on the buyout price from your current vehicle (to the dealer) vs what its current value is (not its RV), and some other factors.... but if I were you I would wait unless your dealership can make that 1400 go away.

They might be able to, depends on a bunch of factors, but financially it does not make sense to take that hit so close to the end of your lease.

[omaralt]

Originally Posted by jjrandorin

Sounds right to me, yes, if your payments are $700 each.

Now it depends on the buyout price from your current vehicle vs what its current value is (not its RV), and some other factors.... but if I were you I would wait unless your dealership can make that 1400 go away.

They might be able to, depends on a bunch of factors, but financially it does not make sense to take that hit so close to the end of your lease.

ya i agree. and this month there arent any incentives (loyalty, etc). i'll wait and see what the situation is like in march, or i may go ahead and order a car now for march delivery. thanks

[InsideMan]

Originally Posted by omaralt

i see. thanks for the explanation. so in my case, i have 5 payments left. So there are two payments to deal with ($1400) so i'm coming into the deal with pretty much $1400 in negative equity.. sounds right?

Correct.

If you have a good relationship with your dealer then you can get deeper into the technicalities with your specific car. If not then they aren't going to explain much more than what is in front of you. Does that make sense?

[MG 228i]

Anyone know the EOP for 2017 340i?
My 3 month pull ahead would be March.

[TonyUF]

Originally Posted by MG 228i

Anyone know the EOP for 2017 340i?
My 3 month pull ahead would be March.

340i EOP for 2017:

06/17 for Munich builds
07/17 for Rosslyn builds

[TonyUF]

Originally Posted by TonyUF

340i EOP for 2017:

06/17 for Munich builds
07/17 for Rosslyn builds

Also I'd check in with you CA. Your pull ahead may be "tactical" meaning at the dealers discretion they may be able to pull you ahead up to 6 months to move inventory.

[Brenzo]

Would a dealer be less open to participating in a pull-ahead program if you didn't originally lease the car from them? I am thinking of going to a different BMW dealership (closer to my home/work) than the one I leased my current vehicle from.

I'm thinking no since I would be giving them my business on the new vehicle, but just curious if anyone else has been through an experience like this?

[jjrandorin]

Originally Posted by Brenzo

Would a dealer be less open to participating in a pull-ahead program if you didn't originally lease the car from them? I am thinking of going to a different BMW dealership (closer to my home/work) than the one I leased my current vehicle from.

I'm thinking no since I would be giving them my business on the new vehicle, but just curious if anyone else has been through an experience like this?

Where you originated the lease does not really matter. The new dealer should be happy to work with you to start to develop a relationship with you. The fact that you did not start with them does not (should not) matter. When you start working with them, let them know that you are looking forward to working with them etc.

[omaralt]

so for the pull ahead the dealer has to buy the car; so is there the same lease turn in inspection? tires certain tread, etc? or is it treated as a trade in?

[Joe1627]

Originally Posted by InsideMan

3 payment waiver on everything except M cars and 7s

5 month payment waiver on 7s

6 month window meaning, dealer can work a deal on cars that are 6 months from maturity (3 payments waived, 3 payments dealt with by client, dealer, rolled into new payment etc.)

There is a page two that has the remaining months. You get the idea

This is great info my lease is up on 7/20/18 I have plans to employee lease anther car August 2017 I was gonna just roll in the 11 payments I am eligible for this program?

[Joe1627]

Originally Posted by InsideMan

3 payment waiver on everything except M cars and 7s

5 month payment waiver on 7s

6 month window meaning, dealer can work a deal on cars that are 6 months from maturity (3 payments waived, 3 payments dealt with by client, dealer, rolled into new payment etc.)

There is a page two that has the remaining months. You get the idea

This is great info my lease is up on 7/20/18 I have plans to employee lease anther car August 2017 I was gonna just roll in the 11 payments I am eligible for this program?

[MG 228i]

Originally Posted by InsideMan

3 payment waiver on everything except M cars and 7s

5 month payment waiver on 7s

6 month window meaning, dealer can work a deal on cars that are 6 months from maturity (3 payments waived, 3 payments dealt with by client, dealer, rolled into new payment etc.)

There is a page two that has the remaining months. You get the idea

Dealer said this does not apply if my next car is an Executive Demo.
Can anyone confirm?

[InsideMan]

Originally Posted by MG 228i

Dealer said this does not apply if my next car is an Executive Demo.
Can anyone confirm?

Confirmed.

Must be NEW. No dealer demo, executive demo or loaner.

[BMWMico]

Originally Posted by Joe1627

This is great info my lease is up on 7/20/18 I have plans to employee lease anther car August 2017 I was gonna just roll in the 11 payments I am eligible for this program?

You are not, because you have more than 6 payment left. You will have to wait until next year to see what kind of pull-ahead program will be available.

[BMWMico]

Originally Posted by omaralt

so for the pull ahead the dealer has to buy the car; so is there the same lease turn in inspection? tires certain tread, etc? or is it treated as a trade in?

Yes, same inspection, but if you have damage and no SafeLease - the dealer will have to take the car in trade, and the damage will be shown as negative trade equity, as opposed to a charge from BMW FS.

[bmw-again]

I received email about pull ahead and I am giving car back tomorrow as I ordered new 17 440xi gran coupe

[MattTheCarNut]

My lease expires OCT 8, so next month I'm eligible for this program.

I've started to shop (M3, yay!). Just a heads up, some dealers really want to work and will take those extra three payments while some are like "hell no".

I really believe the dealer paying three payments takes away from the discount you could get on a particular car. I don't see how not waiting until three months out is the best answer.

Has anyone taken advantage of this program w/ 6 months remaining on lease?

[jjrandorin]

Originally Posted by MattTheCarNut

My lease expires OCT 8, so next month I'm eligible for this program.

I've started to shop (M3, yay!). Just a heads up, some dealers really want to work and will take those extra three payments while some are like "hell no".

I really believe the dealer paying three payments takes away from the discount you could get on a particular car. I don't see how not waiting until three months out is the best answer.

Has anyone taken advantage of this program w/ 6 months remaining on lease?

The program is "within 6 months, BMW will pay for 3 months" as I understand it... so that means BMW FS will cover the 3 months payment, anything else is on you (or the dealer if you negotiate for them to eat it).

If you negotiate for them to eat it, the money has to come from somewhere, which would be the deal on the new car.

What I am saying is, in most cases, you will need to do this 3 months from the end of your lease, or be prepared to eat some payments yourself for the rest of the months that are outside of the 3 months pull ahead.

[MattTheCarNut]

Originally Posted by jjrandorin

The program is "within 6 months, BMW will pay for 3 months" as I understand it... so that means BMW FS will cover the 3 months payment, anything else is on you (or the dealer if you negotiate for them to eat it).

If you negotiate for them to eat it, the money has to come from somewhere, which would be the deal on the new car.

What I am saying is, in most cases, you will need to do this 3 months from the end of your lease, or be prepared to eat some payments yourself for the rest of the months that are outside of the 3 months pull ahead.

We are speaking the same language, my friend. Now if I could only find an M3 with a $10k cap reduction....LOL