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I don't know if this is normal but my car doesn't see to get up to temperature likeit used to. It's been around 25-30 degrees Celsius here and the temp just stays around 95-100 degrees. Haven't had a limp mode in maybe 5k and I've been driving it fairly hard
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In the past I would get a reduced power mode, fan on max, but revs are not restricted. I could almost replicate it if I went for a long spirited drive...so maybe not a total "limp" mode.
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07-17-2014, 02:58 PM | #1303 |
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I have a automatic sport 335i, I had the same issue. I turned off the car & it was normal after that, I had this issue twice, my car is only 3 months old.
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07-17-2014, 08:59 PM | #1305 |
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Start documenting it with the dealer.
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1st Limp Mode to Dealership Trip Report - Part 1
Upfront disclaimer - After 9 months I'm still loving my F30 335i. I've added some great mods to the car and it really hauls ass when you put the pedal down. So if you are reading this, don't expect to read a whiny bitch gram as I'm not unhappy with my car, but want to see if BMW has addressed this issue. Like most of you, I've been a bit bothered by the odd rattle and high pitched buzzing noise, but overall I'm still thrilled with the car. I'm reporting here to simply help folks who may need to have this similar problem addressed and to collaborate on how different dealerships are addressing the problem. Stats - 2013 SA Build F30 M Sport 335i, MPPK and Akrapovic Exhaust. 4000 miles. Two Limp modes have occurred since new. One after a few months of ownership, and one two weeks ago. In both cases I had no idea that something was wrong as I received no engine warning (such as a check engine light), no high speed fan, nothing. In the first instance, I simply kept driving and kept to normal speed under significantly reduced acceleration. On the second instance, I pulled over to the side of the road, turned the car off, and restarted. Like has been reported by others, car immediately returned to non-limp mode capability. The only other instance of something strange was after a few months of ownership, when I pulled into the garage one day after a short drive and turned the car off, the fan turned on and was spinning unusually fast. Dealership Visit. Dropped car off at Valencia BMW this morning. SA that I worked with the first time I visited Valencia four months ago for the TSB on the low rev vibration (640114) and drain grommet (510514) was long gone, so I dealt with a new guy. Seemed nice enough, asked a few reasonable questions, gave me a loaner (POS), and I was off. However, it was interesting to note, that when codes were run on the car, SA said there was a 'DSC' fault that was detected. Anyone know what this? I don't have the code value. Just received a call back this afternoon that they will be replacing the fan in the car (as has been reported by others), and will be recoding the DME with updated software. I will print out the dealer report when I pick up the car tomorrow.
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I'll bet my M-sport steering wheel that there is no fix for this. Last night a random sensor blipped on the highway and informed me to drive carefully and a logo came on my dash of a car. Never saw it and I took a picture in case it pops up again but this is now the 4th or 5th different random sensor error in 4000 miles that my car has. Some of these random errors are going to relate to the engine so they will trip the limp mode safety system on. There will never be a single fix that stops a dozen different sensors all over the car from randomly tripping.
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There was no new fan part# for my January 2015 build, but they did give me the standard DME flash. The trouble is that an intermittant error like this can pop up at any time or maybe never again. ANd if it doesn't pop up for a year, who knows what helped or increased the odds? We would need a pool of thousands of F30's to experiment with.
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Just happened to me in a 2015 M235i... exactly as you guys describe it... so there is no FIX yet? should I wait? Mind you I have ER catless dp, intercooler and chargepipe... So I am not very keen on going to the dealer...
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2015 335i M Sport with fog lights
I have a 2015 335i M Sport with fog lights on order. Is this issue still prevalent on model year 2015 cars? Is it only an issue for M Sports without the fog lights?
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10-21-2014, 04:33 PM | #1313 |
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Problem Solved?
Ever since the software upgrade and new fan installed last April, all has been good. Any more Limp Modes out there post the new flash?
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Wow... over the past 2 days I read all 60 pages of this thread.
I purchased a used 2013 335i M-Sport w/ 6MT back on 9/13/14 w/ 14K. Drove to Atlanta to purchase the car b/c it was color (ext + int), MSport w/ a manual... a rare find these days. For the 1st time, on Mon 11/24 I experienced a sudden loss of power from roughly 2500RPM to 400RPM. I could press the pedal all the way to the floor & the car had no more power. I came up to a stop light after 15 minutes of driving (was just at a stop light less than 1/2 of a mile, in fact I was in stop & go traffic the entire morning up to that point), I was in the middle lane needing to get over into the turning lane rather quickly. I released the clutch & was going to to get on the car to zoom by this truck & get in the turning lane & all the sudden my car had no power at all. My car didn't accelerate anymore if i pressed the gas pedal to the floor. I had no lights on my dash, my fan didn't make any noise that was out of the ordinary... just had no power. It seemed to pick back up once i got to past 3500 or so RPM's... was just very difficult to get to that point. I was in comfort mode, i'm in comfort mode 99% of the time. Here is where it gets dangerous (and quite frankly makes me angry when i see people on here say do nothing b/c the dealer doesn't have a fix & your wasting your time having them throw parts at it, etc... you obviously haven't had this put you in harms way yet). Not everyone can just pull over, cut the car off/on & be done with it.. that's a very naive position. I was trying to merge onto a 65mph highway that I could only manage to get up to 45mphs & the exit lane was running out. I had a car behind me all over my a$$ b/c i wasn't accelerating like i was getting on a highway. An 18 wheeler was trying to slow down to let me speed up & get on the highway, i ran out of lane to get on the highway, had to almost stop & then had no lane to get up to speed. Talk about dangerous. Meanwhile everyone is honking the horn at me, i almost caused a very serious accident. I drove another 30 minutes to my destination, which was in a very busy part of town. Had to cross over 6 lanes of traffic on the off-ramp of this exit to get in the far left turning lane & couldn't get out of my own way. It's a very dangerous situation. I have a kid on the way in 2 months, this is not acceptable. From what I have gathered this happens to some people while accelerating (i believe snowghost was trying to pass on a two lane road & all the sudden the problem happened) but I have seen a lot of people say it was when they stopped at a stop sign or stop light. My 2013 doesn't remember my A.S.S setting like my 2014 X3 does so i'm constantly turning that d@mn thing off. I called the dealer & made an appointment (not until 12/11, I require a loaner) so will curious what they find. As anyone had the problem come back AFTER they had the 850w Fan + DME software update? I haven't seen anyone with that combo come back & say they have had the problem again after that specific fix. I live off a busy road in a development. There are many times that people come flying over this sorta of hidden curve/hill. If i'm pulling left out of my neighborhood, some idiot going way too fast tops that hill & I see them in my rearview mirror as i'm pulling out, i had to get on my car to get up to speed quickly. If i get limp mode & some idiot is flying I'm going to get rear ended. And if my newborn is in the car, i'm going to go ape shit. This is a serious issue that needs to get fixed before someone gets killed. I can't believe 2 years later that isn't a solid fix, i don't care if the issue is random. |
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I have a newer model which didn't need any updates, and I doubt anything the dealer did when I brought it in reduced my odds of having this fault in the future. So far it hasn't happened, but who knows what triggered the problem originally? I do get the "chassis warning" fault all the time, which is not dangerous. There is never any record of any of my faults in the computer, which is really what bothers me the most. They say the signal that trips these faults is often a millisecond blip which isn't enough to record a data entry into the error log. That just sucks. I don't see how a better fan would change any of these errors personally. Since I haven't had limp mode again now for more than 9 months, maybe my new car "settled in."
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Hi All,
Yesterday, I experienced my first limp mode in my 2014 msport 335i mppk with 11K miles. Could not go over 40 miles per hour. The car went back to normal after restarting. I scanned for faults and did not find any. Is it worth taking it to the dealer given no faults or can they detect codes that we don't see. Thanks, Rami |
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I had my second limp mode yesterday. 2013 335i m sport 14500 miles. Both times I was in comfort mode on the highway for about 30 minutes and then switched to sport+. Oil temp was very low around 190-200 and fan on high but didn't notice the fan until pulling into the garage. I also did start with the a/c off and turned in on during commute and then back to off. So it seems to be a combination of switching driving modes and maybe the AC?
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It was good for about 6-8 months and I got 2 Limp mode in the past 2 months. At this point, i don't even care anymore. The most recent limp mode was only 3 days ago, and it was different than all my previous (4-5 times). I was always sitting at the light when it happened before, this time it happened when i shift from 1st to 2nd and the car just went "Clunk" feel like i released the clutch too fast without giving any gas and limp mode. |
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