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      06-11-2013, 11:00 AM   #23
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The car is offered in its very basic trim in countries like UK and Germany in entry level models and keep the price competitive. Especially in the UK, the BMW outsells Ford Focus. Even in Australia they are beginning to offered basic trim and then charge for the options. In the past the M3 and the 3 series coupe (the powerful model) were fully loaded. Not anymore. By lowering the basic price they are trying to stay ahead of competition - ala Mercedes and Audi.

The bi-xenon are a $2500 option on the F25 X3 in Australia ... which is a lot of money.
I don't believe Xenons cost a manufacturer nearly that much... $2500 is def. a INSANE mark up. They are "looking out" for their profit margins lol.

Every single Acura, IS300 in the early 00's, etc all come with xenon standard. That's when plasma TV's were $10k for a 50". It's 2013, xenon plug and play kits are $40 for China (so $20 to manufacture)... with all the fancy optics, halos, and a quality german xenon kit, there is no way that is more than $200-300 cost @ BMW... 5-10x markup depending where you are in this world.

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I don't believe Xenons cost a manufacturer nearly that much... $2500 is def. a INSANE mark up. They are "looking out" for their profit margins lol.

Every single Acura, IS300 in the early 00's, etc all come with xenon standard. That's when plasma TV's were $10k for a 50". It's 2013, xenon plug and play kits are $40 for China (so $20 to manufacture)... with all the fancy optics, halos, and a quality german xenon kit, there is no way that is more than $200-300 cost @ BMW... 5-10x markup depending where you are in this world.

Horrible.
You're absolutely spot on ... it's the profit margin as I said before.
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In Denmark, xenon will easily cost you $5000...
Someone has to pay for all the social programs....$5k is pretty excessive.
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I have owned 2 e92s and I must say I have very mixed emotions.

Front bumper. Are you kidding me?

Hope M-sport doesn't disappoint.

Side vent (boomerang)?

It belongs on M cars.

It seems BMW design is currently a confused teenager who needs to change hairstyle for the sake of changing (social pressure.)

f15 is by far the weirdest X5 ever made.

There, I had to vent. I do it only because I care.
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      06-11-2013, 08:00 PM   #27
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lol @ Concept 4 Series Coupe.
So disappointing, the 4 series could have been awesome, instead, it is an exact replica of the F30. Don't call it a 4 series if it is not any different than the 3. Fucking frustrating
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      06-11-2013, 09:04 PM   #28
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We will have to see what the lighting ends up being. The E92 did not get LED front signals and rear signal/lights until the LCI. I agree that lighting should be better than that offered on a VW.
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      06-12-2013, 04:21 AM   #29
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So disappointing, the 4 series could have been awesome, instead, it is an exact replica of the F30. Don't call it a 4 series if it is not any different than the 3. Fucking frustrating
Everyone already knew this. BMW is only changing the name so they can charge more money to earn higher profits!
Same reason why they have X5M & X6M etc.

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I would like to but tell me how many of them I need to count!
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4 Series is rumored to be announced tomorrow (Thursday, 13 June).
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Halogens on the coupe this time?..last gen the e92 had xenons standard and the e90 s didn't right? I guess its the same this time around
Even the e46 coupes has xenons standard! And they were "active and turned with the road"
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4 Series is rumored to be announced tomorrow (Thursday, 13 June).
Not tomorrow (Thurs.)
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      06-13-2013, 01:35 AM   #36
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Not tomorrow (Thurs.)
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Why in god's name is there still nasty looking halogen lamps on your $30k+ BMW... I just don't understand. Xenon's should be standard, period!
So true
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wtf? ive never seen a car that takes this long to be announced. its only a 4 series, not the next lamborghini...wtf is the hold up?

the car is supposed to go into production next month and there are not even any ****** pics of it yet? are you kidding me!?
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wtf? ive never seen a car that takes this long to be announced. its only a 4 series, not the next lamborghini...wtf is the hold up?

the car is supposed to go into production next month and there are not even any ****** pics of it yet? are you kidding me!?
I'm with you! The suspense is killing me! The X5 has been fully revealed and it's not due till October!
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