Business Nav to have EBT included from Spring! But from what build date??

teaston · 01-23-2014, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Rich9600

I doubt I'll get it.

I'm due in build in a week or so... Build week 5 was the last I heard. Dealer by mid Feb for March 1st excitement... But as you say, 3L to play wraith! Other toys, meh...

I'd have been gutted if I'd paid the extra £365 that dealer wanted after November for the January price rise!

Are you getting the bus nav, and will you be usng it? I'm not so bothered as I use iphone tomtom anyway. But if you will be using the nav, maybe worth seeing if you can get the build delayed?

Rich9600 · 01-23-2014, 03:34 AM

No Nav, iOS TomTom has worked so far... Only an occasional Nav user. 10 times a year ish.

Just interested in the tyre monitoring system. If I delayed the car, I think my girlfriend may leave me...

It would turn up about our wedding time, and my excitement may be focused in the wrong direction...

teaston · 01-23-2014, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Rich9600

No Nav, iOS TomTom has worked so far... Only an occasional Nav user. 10 times a year ish.

Just interested in the tyre monitoring system. If I delayed the car, I think my girlfriend may leave me...

It would turn up about our wedding time, and my excitement may be focused in the wrong direction...

I remember now you are the other ios tomtom user!

Yes not worth delaying just for tpms, especially in your circumstances!

Congratulations on getting married by the way!

Rich9600 · 01-23-2014, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by teaston

I remember now you are the other ios tomtom user!

Yep, got to stick together... Otherwise, we'll be got by the Pro-Media crowd!

Cheers fella. If I delayed and talked cars any longer than absolutely necessary, she'd kill me. Apparently my focus should be suits, music, vows etc...

teaston · 01-23-2014, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Rich9600

Yep, got to stick together... Otherwise, we'll be got by the Pro-Media crowd!

Cheers fella. If I delayed and talked cars any longer than absolutely necessary, she'd kill me. Apparently my focus should be suits, music, vows etc...

Wow! I'd rather keep my focus on work and cars! Lol

BMWSKI · 01-23-2014, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Rich9600

Yep, got to stick together... Otherwise, we'll be got by the Pro-Media crowd!

Cheers fella. If I delayed and talked cars any longer than absolutely necessary, she'd kill me. Apparently my focus should be suits, music, vows etc...

Sounds like you're getting married Rich??? Well you need to see your marriage in with a flash car

Rich9600 · 01-23-2014, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BMWSKI

Sounds like you're getting married Rich??? Well you need to see your marriage in with a flash car

Yep, flash car while I can...

Can't get away on a proper holiday / honeymoon untill summer. So, thinking of doing the "Skyfall" drive up to the highlands for a wee honeymoon / play with new car... She wants to go to Edinburgh anyway... Shame it's no going to be a DB5!

Rich9600 · 01-23-2014, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ChesterX5

Agreed, especially with run flats have become lazy on checking tyre pressures and it does affect handling and economy (sad!) a quick tap of the I-drive sounds perfect and an overdue welcome change whoop whoop.

Certainly an improvement. I promised I'd check my own run flats fortnightly... Never happened.

The present system, same as my E90, works for a puncture. I had one on the motorway a few years back. Drove on to the next services and found a screw stuck in. Put some more air in and drove on. 5 miles later it went boing again. So, drove the 100 odd miles home.

The limitation is not knowing which corner, and how flat the tyre is. The next day there was still 1.8 bar left. Tyre was apparently still repairable. But, too low on tread to be worth it.

So, new system would have provided much more information in this circumstance. On the move monitoring etc.

moonshine · 01-23-2014, 04:59 AM

i will be intersted to see more info on what the new Business Nav will have in comparison to the Pro Nav & how the cost changes.

currently pro is £1990 and Business is £900?
Pro is 8.8" screen - Business will be 6.5" screen
neither currently have EBT (a £350 option) but Business will have it as Std (price increace?)
Pro has RTTI, business currently does not, but will have
Pro uses NBT, Business used to use CIC?, but will use NBT?
does Business currently have media HDD? will it when updated?

why would you spec Pro over newer Business (apart from a bigger screen?)

Also the trailed new option of a "innovation pack" essentially a viz pack plus HUD/ Speed limit is interesting as i was looking at both. it says

"Moreover, as of spring 2014, an innovation package will be available for all BMW 3 Series models consisting of attractive special equipment options. This package includes Xenon headlights, adaptive cornering lights, the BMW Head-Up Display, the High-Beam Assistant and Speed Limit Info including No Passing Indicator." - i wonder how this will affect pricing of Viz pack & how it works with the M-sport plus?

A new options pricing structure for nav & packs coming?

pmheadwired · 01-23-2014, 05:24 AM

Makes me glad I didnt opt for any NAV options too. Sod paying for it then missing getting a better version within a week or so!

Will just stick to my Google Navigation... never let me down yet. lol

JustChris · 01-23-2014, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Rich9600

So, new system would have provided much more information in this circumstance. On the move monitoring etc.

Agreed, the cynic in me has also just thought that this could also be a way of encouraging us to stay with OEM wheel upgrades as isn't there something in the valve with the TPMS?

Anyway cynicism aside I'm chuffed and really like this 'freebie'.

teaston · 01-23-2014, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by moonshine

i will be intersted to see more info on what the new Business Nav will have in comparison to the Pro Nav & how the cost changes.

currently pro is £1990 and Business is £900?
Pro is 8.8" screen - Business will be 6.5" screen
neither currently have EBT (a £350 option) but Business will have it as Std (price increace?)
Pro has RTTI, business currently does not, but will have
Pro uses NBT, Business used to use CIC?, but will use NBT?
does Business currently have media HDD? will it when updated?

why would you spec Pro over newer Business (apart from a bigger screen?)

Bus nav is currently £990, but will change to £890 apparently.

EBT is actually £450 option currently on bus, £350 on bus+ and prof (because they have all the hardware already for it(which is why EBT can be coded in on them))
Business hasn't been CIC for a while, it is currently CHAMP2. I am guessing it will be NBT.

From what I can see, bus nav will not have the touch controller, black panel display, voice control, split screen or HDD. I think these would be the reasons to get prof from now on.

teaston · 01-23-2014, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ChesterX5

Agreed, the cynic in me has also just thought that this could also be a way of encouraging us to stay with OEM wheel upgrades as isn't there something in the valve with the TPMS?

Anyway cynicism aside I'm chuffed and really like this 'freebie'.

Yes a set of TPMS valves is about £250!

So you can still fit aftermarket wheels, albeit if you put run flats on them you will have to buy sensors for the wheels.

MikeMinh · 01-26-2014, 05:44 AM

TPMS is a (technical) must with run-flats. If you have a puncture you otherwise won't know that you have to drive at moderate speeds. It is not a replacement for checking the correct tyre pressure. Even the more advanced system of the two (which measures pressure as opposed to calculate it from the turning speed of the wheel) is only a guide, maybe a good guide.

TPMS is also a legal requirement from Nov 2014 in Europe, it was a legal requirement in the US from 2007 (this explains why US delivered BMWs have, what, lets say the UK, hasn't). Many other countries have or will introduce similar regulation.

teaston · 01-27-2014, 03:00 PM

I'm currently unable to access the BMW Configurator

http://www.bmw.co.uk/brandBM/marketG.../error404.html

So could this be because they're updating the site for all the Spring changes!?

accordRE · 02-03-2014, 12:21 PM

Do you know when these changes will be coming into place exactly?
I've been told if I stick with the build slot I've reserved the delivery will be early March

teaston · 02-03-2014, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by accordRE

Do you know when these changes will be coming into place exactly?
I've been told if I stick with the build slot I've reserved the delivery will be early March

Build week 10 (10th March) so delivery early March will miss the updates.

accordRE · 02-03-2014, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by teaston

Build week 10 (10th March) so delivery early March will miss the updates.

May have to try and delay the order

teaston · 02-03-2014, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by accordRE

May have to try and delay the order

That's what i'm trying! Not heard back yet though!

King6897 · 02-03-2014, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by teaston

Build week 10 (10th March) so delivery early March will miss the updates.

Build week 10 commences March 3rd not the 10th according to my dealer who has stated to me that my car will come with the new tyre pressure monitors

sms720 · 02-03-2014, 01:04 PM

Build week 10 is 3rd March as confirmed with my dealer.

teaston · 02-03-2014, 01:10 PM

Well that's good news in a way. However it is roughly 3 weeks from build to delivery so delivery would need to be end of March at least to get the updates.

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Rich9600 Colonel 741 Rep 2,511 Posts Drives: i4 M50 Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	No Nav, iOS TomTom has worked so far... Only an occasional Nav user. 10 times a year ish. Just interested in the tyre monitoring system. If I delayed the car, I think my girlfriend may leave me... It would turn up about our wedding time, and my excitement may be focused in the wrong direction... __________________ Driving i4 M50 (G26) Previous 340i Touring MSport (F31)
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moonshine Lieutenant Colonel 849 Rep 1,858 Posts Drives: 718 Boxster S Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Glasgow iTrader: (0)	i will be intersted to see more info on what the new Business Nav will have in comparison to the Pro Nav & how the cost changes. currently pro is £1990 and Business is £900? Pro is 8.8" screen - Business will be 6.5" screen neither currently have EBT (a £350 option) but Business will have it as Std (price increace?) Pro has RTTI, business currently does not, but will have Pro uses NBT, Business used to use CIC?, but will use NBT? does Business currently have media HDD? will it when updated? why would you spec Pro over newer Business (apart from a bigger screen?) Also the trailed new option of a "innovation pack" essentially a viz pack plus HUD/ Speed limit is interesting as i was looking at both. it says "Moreover, as of spring 2014, an innovation package will be available for all BMW 3 Series models consisting of attractive special equipment options. This package includes Xenon headlights, adaptive cornering lights, the BMW Head-Up Display, the High-Beam Assistant and Speed Limit Info including No Passing Indicator." - i wonder how this will affect pricing of Viz pack & how it works with the M-sport plus? A new options pricing structure for nav & packs coming?
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MikeMinh Private 23 Rep 76 Posts Drives: 320i GT (F34) Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Devon, UK iTrader: (0)	TPMS is a (technical) must with run-flats. If you have a puncture you otherwise won't know that you have to drive at moderate speeds. It is not a replacement for checking the correct tyre pressure. Even the more advanced system of the two (which measures pressure as opposed to calculate it from the turning speed of the wheel) is only a guide, maybe a good guide. TPMS is also a legal requirement from Nov 2014 in Europe, it was a legal requirement in the US from 2007 (this explains why US delivered BMWs have, what, lets say the UK, hasn't). Many other countries have or will introduce similar regulation.
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teaston Banned 10995 Rep 32,881 Posts Drives: X3 M40d Join Date: May 2012 Location: The High Seas iTrader: (1)	I'm currently unable to access the BMW Configurator http://www.bmw.co.uk/brandBM/marketG.../error404.html So could this be because they're updating the site for all the Spring changes!?
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teaston Banned 10995 Rep 32,881 Posts Drives: X3 M40d Join Date: May 2012 Location: The High Seas iTrader: (1)	Well that's good news in a way. However it is roughly 3 weeks from build to delivery so delivery would need to be end of March at least to get the updates.
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