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      07-17-2013, 12:46 PM   #23
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Hi pcbrew. I'm thinking about ordering this steering wheel plus a few other bits from overseas. My local BMW dealer prices are nearly triple what HC SALE quotes on some of the parts.

Since you had quite an extended delay waiting for the steering wheel to arrive, would you still recommend ordering with HC SALE?

Also looking at PartSale.eu, anyone done business with them before?
I am also considering placing an order with HCSALE.com. Cant do with the the thin hard Sport Line steering wheel in my F30. Loved the S-line steering in my A4 i just sold!
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Great work! I considered the same a while back. Dealer told me it wasn't possible. Told them yes. Must be very nice! That original Sport Steering Wheel with red stiching is terrible!

Finally ended up mounting the alcantara M Performance steering wheel in mine. also something to recommend.
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      07-19-2013, 01:14 AM   #25
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Is the Alcantara M Performance steering wheel bigger in size compared to the sport-line one? Talking about grip-wise.
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      07-25-2013, 10:23 AM   #26
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Great write up!

Just so I'm clear before I tackle this myself, the steps are:

1. Disconnect the battery, wait a while for the ECU to shut down.
2. Remove the airbag using the screwdriver technique.
3. Disconnect the black and white connectors (note position of the white one).
4. Remove the bolt holding on the steering wheel.
5. Swap the switchgear.
6. Bolt the new one back on.
7. Reconnect the black and white (tuck white back where it was, and push the airbag module back in place.
8. Then reconnect the battery.

Am I missing any steps? Any particular torque on the steering wheel bolt?
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      07-25-2013, 10:41 AM   #27
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Trust me to get the heated steering - the same wheel but heated is €644.19
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      07-25-2013, 04:20 PM   #28
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Great write up!

Just so I'm clear before I tackle this myself, the steps are:

1. Disconnect the battery, wait a while for the ECU to shut down.
2. Remove the airbag using the screwdriver technique.
3. Disconnect the black and white connectors (note position of the white one).
4. Remove the bolt holding on the steering wheel.
5. Swap the switchgear.
6. Bolt the new one back on.
7. Reconnect the black and white (tuck white back where it was, and push the airbag module back in place.
8. Then reconnect the battery.

Am I missing any steps? Any particular torque on the steering wheel bolt?
That's it.

I didn't use a torque setting on the bolt, I just made sure it was tight.

Just remember, if you have to turn the car back on (for whatever reason) with the airbag out you will get an error.

It is very easy to change the wheel but I found the most difficult step wass undoing the little clips for the switchblock wiring behind the airbag.

Good luck.

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That's it.


It is very easy to change the wheel but I found the most difficult step wass undoing the little clips for the switchblock wiring behind the airbag.

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What is the switchblock wiring you are referring to exactly?
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      07-25-2013, 09:51 PM   #30
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The wiring going from the switchblocks, the paddles, the steering wheel and airbag are joined with plastic joiners, one white and two blue.

You will see them as soon as you release the airbag.
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      07-26-2013, 08:34 PM   #31
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The wiring going from the switchblocks, the paddles, the steering wheel and airbag are joined with plastic joiners, one white and two blue.

You will see them as soon as you release the airbag.
Ok. Thanks. The posted pictures are on a manual car so there are only black and white, no blue. I'll figure it out I'm sure. Thanks again.
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The new wheel looks great, seems to be worth it for the quality of the leather alone.
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      09-18-2013, 10:59 AM   #33
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Just ordered from partsale.eu!
Paddle shifter version $480 shipped.
FedEx delivery ~ 3 weeks.

Cant wait.
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      10-18-2013, 01:10 PM   #34
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Arrived 1 month later. Will post pics after install.
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      10-18-2013, 10:11 PM   #35
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Cool - hope the install goes smoothly.
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      10-29-2013, 01:29 PM   #36
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Is there any chance that someone can find the part# for the same F20 wheel but with the heating element for me?? I have wasted far too much of my employers money trying to figure this out on his time already..... TIA
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      10-29-2013, 06:47 PM   #37
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The F20 M steering wheel does not come with a heating element.
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      10-30-2013, 01:57 PM   #38
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Hi, thanks for sharing this information!
I drive a F31 diesel, love the car but I hate the steering wheel. I can get my hands on a used sport steering wheel now, same as yours. Only thing is, I don't have the paddle shifters and the wheel I can buy has. I do have automatic transmission so the question is will the paddles work with my transmission or is there any coding need to be done??

Thanks!
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The F20 M steering wheel does not come with a heating element.
While disappointing to hear, I do thank you for the response. Cheers
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Cool - hope the install goes smoothly.
Actually, I had to use a different method to remove the airbag. I had previously removed 3 steering wheels from e90/e92, but this time, just couldn't find the damn spring.

I'm very happy with the wheel. It has the same feel/thickness as M3 wheel I had on my e92.
Thanks pcbrew for leading the way!

Here's the video I used:

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@pcbrew - great work! I've never quite been happy w/ the Sport wheel either; stumbled onto this thread after a google. I'm very tempted to do this as well.

@e90im - how did your install go?
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Is the Alcantara M Performance steering wheel bigger in size compared to the sport-line one? Talking about grip-wise.
Would live to know this also. Also is it available heated also?
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      02-27-2014, 10:21 AM   #43
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Base line wheel

Can this be done to the base line steering wheel?
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      05-23-2014, 03:35 PM   #44
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Well, after a long wait, I finally pulled the trigger and ordered the F20 M-sport steering wheel with paddle shifters for our 2013 F30 335i Sport Line with sport auto. I ordered it from partsale.eu mentioned above. It took about 5 weeks to arrive as it got caught up in customs due to an "inadequate description" of the package contents. Then it took me another few weeks to have the uninterrupted time to tackle the job. When I get time, I'll try to figure out how to post some pictures since my install had both paddle shifters and active blind spot vibration in the steering wheel. By the way, you will pay duties to FedEx on the part, mine was just under $20.

The install went without a hitch. I had no problem getting the airbag out using the screwdriver method. It came off with no issues. The hardest part physically, was getting the white airbag connector and the two blue paddle shifter connectors apart. There are no retention clips on them, like on the main airbag and switchgear connectors, just an oh so slightly raised tab that keeps the two pieces together and it took a very strong pull to get them apart. Of course I was being very careful trying not to break any wiring since it is all reused. Once those three connectors were disconnected, the rest was easy.

Of note, on the inside of my wheel, there is a flat relay that sits in the 5 O'clock position that is not found in pcbrew's photos. Three things plug into this relay, the vibration actuator, the switchgear, and, from what I can tell, possibly heated steering wheel wires. I don't have heated steering but from what I can gather my wheel has the element it just doesn't have the switch and wiring. The F20 wheel doesn't have these wires and this worried me at first because I thought this might have something to do with the vibration and would throw a fault with the active blind spot function, which my wife really likes. After the install, however, the vibration functioned perfectly and no faults were thrown.

The wheel goes back on just as described and when I reconnected the battery and started the car, the only fault I had was to "set time/date" from the battery being disconnected. The faults for steering realignment, low battery, etc., that some have experienced, didn't occur for me.

When I took it out for the first test drive, I was very relieved that the auto blind spot function worked perfectly, "whew"! However, none of the multifunction switches worked. Ugh! A quick search of this forum and Google, turned up nothing, so I had no choice but to go back in to check for loose connectors. Once again, the airbag came right off and upon examination, there was a connector dangling loose that I had missed. So I connected it, reinstalled the airbag and reconnected the battery and voila!, everything works perfectly.

So, I will try to post some pix to point out the differences of mine versus pcbrew's as mentioned above.

Thanks to pcbrew, and everyone else to has done the swap for the great write up, part numbers, resources and feedback. It is a night and day difference and improvement!
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