[hoyasaxa]

Afterwards.... "don't even talk to me bro"

[FeelinBlessed]

Typical BMW driver... Nothing new

Was that from your dashcam?
Hope he didn't damage your car

[hollandog]

just saw this.

lol this is how BMW gets the jerk reputation.

[Bbb34]

Smooth, not only being stupid enough to go around like that, but not to know when to back out, committed no matter what.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Here is a summary of what happens

BMW driver loses his patience and crashes the car (100% his fault)

The dash cam guy which also might be a BMW driver (bump on the hood, so might be an M3) does a dickhead move and try to box the BMW driver out which forces him to crash the car

It is 100% the BMW driver mistake but both drivers are jerks

[hoyasaxa]

Originally Posted by FeelinBlessed

Was that from your dashcam?
Hope he didn't damage your car

Nope, just sharing.

[Beek]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Here is a summary of what happens

BMW driver loses his patience and crashes the car (100% his fault)

The dash cam guy which also might be a BMW driver (bump on the hood, so might be an M3) does a dickhead move and try to box the BMW driver out which forces him to crash the car

It is 100% the BMW driver mistake but both drivers are jerks

Did we watch the same video? Dude who would up on the barracade wasn't even in a traffic lane when he made his left turn, I can't see how the car shooting the video could in any way be considered at fault. That is my opinion anyway.

edit: Well ... they did both run the red light.

[Bbb34]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

The dash cam guy which also might be a BMW driver (bump on the hood, so might be an M3) does a dickhead move and try to box the BMW driver out which forces him to crash the car

Or, he just minds his own business realizing he's about to run the red light ?
The other buy, let's call him impatient for the sake of being nice, had plenty of time to back out and understand what he was doing was just plain stupid.

Now, I wasn't there, but I don't see how you can possibly blame the dashcam guy for "boxing him out".

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Here is a summary of what happens

BMW driver loses his patience and crashes the car (100% his fault)

The dash cam guy which also might be a BMW driver (bump on the hood, so might be an M3) does a dickhead move and try to box the BMW driver out which forces him to crash the car

It is 100% the BMW driver mistake but both drivers are jerks

Originally Posted by Bbb34

Or, he just minds his own business realizing he's about to run the red light ?
The other buy, let's call him impatient for the sake of being nice, had plenty of time to back out and understand what he was doing was just plain stupid.

Now, I wasn't there, but I don't see how you can possibly blame the dashcam guy for "boxing him out".

Read what is in red? I said it twice it is the BMW driver mistake 100%

But you can clearly see the dash cam guy trying to box him out

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Here is a summary of what happens

BMW driver loses his patience and crashes the car (100% his fault)

The dash cam guy which also might be a BMW driver (bump on the hood, so might be an M3) does a dickhead move and try to box the BMW driver out which forces him to crash the car

It is 100% the BMW driver mistake but both drivers are jerks

Originally Posted by Beek

Did we watch the same video? Dude who would up on the barracade wasn't even in a traffic lane when he made his left turn, I can't see how the car shooting the video could in any way be considered at fault. That is my opinion anyway.

edit: Well ... they did both run the red light.

I mentioned twice that it is 100% the BMW guy mistake

[Beek]

I guess I will have to agree the dashcam car didn't exactly help the other dude make his ace out maneuver.

[SQQDQQ]

All I see is somebody want show off but fked up.

[FeelinBlessed]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Read what is in red? I said it twice it is the BMW driver mistake 100%

But you can clearly see the dash cam guy trying to box him out

Yup agreed! Also I can see why the BMW got impatient. The dash cam guy stopped to let the school bus go first when clearly he didn't have to. Traffic was moving in front of him and there were no signs or signals around. Both at fault 100%

[Bbb34]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Read what is in red? I said it twice it is the BMW driver mistake 100%

Read again, fair enough.

Originally Posted by Beek

I guess I will have to agree the dashcam car didn't exactly help the other dude make his ace out maneuver.

"Helping" in these situation is how you get your front clipped or worse rear ending that a... and being "at fault". Sorry, just cannot have any sympathy for the other guy, you want to do that, you're on your own.

[Billfitz]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

The dash cam guy which also might be a BMW driver (bump on the hood, so might be an M3) does a dickhead move and try to box the BMW driver out which forces him to crash the car

That's not what I saw, looking at the rear view camera. The dash cam guy was following the bus at a safe distance. The moron decided to pass him on the right, even though there was no lane. Moron got what he deserved.

The dash cam guy stopped to let the school bus go first when clearly he didn't have to. Traffic was moving in front of him and there were no signs or signals around.

That's called being courteous. Had the moron been in front of the dash cam guy no doubt he'd have floored it to beat the bus, in order to take ten seconds off his commute. He's not only the type that gives BMW drivers a bad reputation, he's the type that give human beings a bad reputation. A testosterone fueled idiot.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by Billfitz

That's not what I saw, looking at the rear view camera. The dash cam guy was following the bus at a safe distance. The moron decided to pass him on the right, even though there was no lane. Moron got what he deserved.

You can clearly see that the dash cam guy went to the far right in order to box the BMW guy out. He was not even able to make the turn, had to brake in order get back in the lane

Again, it is still 100% the BMW guy fault. He should not have passed him.

[FeelinBlessed]

^Billfitz That's fair and by no means I'm defending the BMW driver as you can see in my first post. But I can't help but think all this could have been avoided if the dash cam guy was a little less courteous and just went without slowing down (almost stopped) for the school bus to make a right turn on a very busy two way stop intersection.
But that is a lot of if's and don'ts... again both at fault

[Beek]

Originally Posted by Bbb34

Read again, fair enough.



"Helping" in these situation is how you get your front clipped or worse rear ending that a... and being "at fault". Sorry, just cannot have any sympathy for the other guy, you want to do that, you're on your own.

Not sure I understand what you mean but in this situation helping would have been hitting your brakes and letting the guy cut you off, which to do you must be aware of what he is doing. It does look like he was aware, didn't shorten his turn radius and may have widened it but I don't think it will matter as the video clearly shows the guy who wound up on the barrier is at fault. He is making a left turn from a closed portion of a right turn only lane, going to be very tough to defend that action. In any case I feel he got what he deserved, a damaged car and probably higher insurance rates and lets not forget that was a school bus he hit in the end, not too cool.

[donkey]

Originally Posted by Beek

Not sure I understand what you mean but in this situation helping would have been hitting your brakes and letting the guy cut you off, which to do you must be aware of what he is doing. It does look like he was aware, didn't shorten his turn radius and may have widened it but I don't think it will matter as the video clearly shows the guy who wound up on the barrier is at fault. He is making a left turn from a closed portion of a right turn only lane, going to be very tough to defend that action. In any case I feel he got what he deserved, a damaged car and probably higher insurance rates and lets not forget that was a school bus he hit in the end, not too cool.

Yep school bus = automatic careful mode for me, that guy was an idiot

[Bbb34]

Originally Posted by FeelinBlessed

^Billfitz That's fair and by no means I'm defending the BMW driver as you can see in my first post. But I can't help but think all this could have been avoided if the dash cam guy was a little less courteous and just went without slowing down (almost stopped) for the school bus to make a right turn on a very busy two way stop intersection.

It also would've been avoided if the guy from behind wasn't being total douche.
In that scenario everybody wins, kids get to school safe and on time and nobody's premium goes up (or worse someone getting hurt). C'mon now, you can't blame the guy for letting school bus merge into the traffic. I will never say I'm happy someone was in an accident but it was totally self inflicted damage. Just imagine if they were pedestrians around, now imagine they were your family members.

[BlueCrabMafia]

Both drivers are asshats.

Problem #1. Dash cam driver created scenario to start with by interrupting the normal flow of traffic by trying to let the bus out. He jams everyone up behind him.

Problem #2. Dash cam drivers either intentionally runs the red light or intentionally speeds up to try to box out BMW bro. You can hear his engine (V8?) rev up as he runs the light. Also makes intentional move to the right. Im guessing he intentionally did it to teach the BMW bro a lesson by being his own traffic enforcer.

Problem #3. BMW bro makes illegal passing maneuver in an intersection. Karma strikes back.

The only non-guilty party in the video is the bus.

[dkmesa]

Fun to laugh at the guy for the idiot move, but how annoying would it be if the car in front of you stops on an open road to let a short bus mosey out in front of him? Lol. There's being courteous, then there's that step beyond courteous where your nice act for the bus inconveniences the people behind you.