F30POST
F30POST
2012-2015 BMW 3-Series and 4-Series Forum
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
BMW 3-Series and 4-Series Forum (F30 / F32) | F30POST > BIMMERPOST Universal Forums > General Automotive (non-BMW) Talk + Photos/Videos > speeding ticket
MINHS Auto Care Center
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      02-05-2013, 12:20 PM   #1
bmwusa-e90
Michael
bmwusa-e90's Avatar
United_States
2
Rep
193
Posts

 
Drives: 2009 e92 328i xdrive
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Berthoud, CO

iTrader: (4)

speeding ticket

so i just got a ticket, going 58 in 45 mile zone. The Sheriff was sitting exactly at the county line, so he had jurisdiction where he measured me, but he didnt have jurisdiction where he stopped me. should i pay or should i fight?
Appreciate 0
      02-05-2013, 12:22 PM   #2
Rafale
Zed Quatre
Rafale's Avatar
France
5
Rep
410
Posts

 
Drives: '11 Z4 35is & '11 535xi GT
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Portland, OR. USA

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
depends on how much the ticket is for. I am sure you can at least get the amount reduced if you go to court.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      02-05-2013, 12:25 PM   #3
bmwusa-e90
Michael
bmwusa-e90's Avatar
United_States
2
Rep
193
Posts

 
Drives: 2009 e92 328i xdrive
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Berthoud, CO

iTrader: (4)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rafale View Post
depends on how much the ticket is for. I am sure you can at least get the amount reduced if you go to court.
$161, 4 points, points get reduced by 2 if i pay in 20 days, if i go to court it will be $26 extra. im not worried about the money, im just worried about my driving records. already got 2 tickets in 2011.
Appreciate 0
      02-05-2013, 12:37 PM   #4
Tsuyoi
Lieutenant
10
Rep
561
Posts

 
Drives: 2013 F30 328i
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: New York

iTrader: (0)

Doubt you would really have a case in court, otherwise anyone who was being pursued by a local pd/Sheriff could just cross a county line and be safe. Pretty sure that whole "jurisdiction" crap would only fly if you crossed into another country, and even then if it's severe enough there's extradition.

I'd just go to court to try to get the points reduced if anything, since 4 points for 58 in 45 sounds really harsh (around here you'd need to be doing a good 20+mph over speed limit to get that kinda point deduction)
Appreciate 0
      02-05-2013, 01:10 PM   #5
bmwusa-e90
Michael
bmwusa-e90's Avatar
United_States
2
Rep
193
Posts

 
Drives: 2009 e92 328i xdrive
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Berthoud, CO

iTrader: (4)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsuyoi View Post
Doubt you would really have a case in court, otherwise anyone who was being pursued by a local pd/Sheriff could just cross a county line and be safe. Pretty sure that whole "jurisdiction" crap would only fly if you crossed into another country, and even then if it's severe enough there's extradition.

I'd just go to court to try to get the points reduced if anything, since 4 points for 58 in 45 sounds really harsh (around here you'd need to be doing a good 20+mph over speed limit to get that kinda point deduction)
the will be reduced to two, if i pay the ticket in the next 20 days.
Appreciate 0
      02-05-2013, 01:50 PM   #6
elwesso
Second Lieutenant
elwesso's Avatar
4
Rep
286
Posts

 
Drives: Z4 M Coupe
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Indiana

iTrader: (1)

Personally I don't think it's worth the hassle. In 2012 I got (3) tickets, only one of which was legit really legit IMO.. In Indiana, if you get more than (2) tickets in the same year they make you do the online drivers safety program (easy peasy)..

I have never had my insurance go up because of traffic tickets.

http://www.dmv.org/co-colorado/point-system.php

If you can get away with only (2) points then you might as well just pay the ticket and move on with your life..

I think those deferral programs are really kind of a waste too.. You end up paying significantly more than the ticket actually was.

You might see if you can take an online safety course for point reduction. In Indiana if you take the online course you get (4) points off your license, you can also take the course every 18 months to reduce the points on your license. Might look into something like that for Colorado.
__________________
- Wes
1994 Infiniti Q45- First 5-speed swapped Q45.
2007 BMW M Coupe

Last edited by elwesso; 02-05-2013 at 02:01 PM.
Appreciate 0
      02-05-2013, 02:20 PM   #7
Rafale
Zed Quatre
Rafale's Avatar
France
5
Rep
410
Posts

 
Drives: '11 Z4 35is & '11 535xi GT
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Portland, OR. USA

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
Yeah... not worth it just pay it.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      02-05-2013, 09:29 PM   #8
Efthreeoh
Brigadier General
United_States
50
Rep
3,708
Posts

 
Drives: E90
Join Date: May 2012
Location: MARLAND

iTrader: (0)

Man-up. Pay it. You were speeding. Who gives a shit if it was the county line or not.
Appreciate 0
      02-06-2013, 09:59 AM   #9
son_of_siggy
Lieutenant
5
Rep
435
Posts

 
Drives: CTS-V
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: United States

iTrader: (0)

It's not like county lines are some magical barrier that will destroy police should they pass through it. You committed a crime in his jurisdiction, and in most areas he's allowed to follow you in to another zone to cite you.

The reason why chases are sometimes waved off is because of a risk to public safety, not because police suddenly hit some barrier they cannot cross, especially within the same state.
Appreciate 0
      02-06-2013, 10:24 AM   #10
135Pats
Turbo's Here
135Pats's Avatar
United_States
61
Rep
5,680
Posts

 
Drives: 135i
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Maryland

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by son_of_siggy View Post
It's not like county lines are some magical barrier that will destroy police should they pass through it. You committed a crime in his jurisdiction, and in most areas he's allowed to follow you in to another zone to cite you.

The reason why chases are sometimes waved off is because of a risk to public safety, not because police suddenly hit some barrier they cannot cross, especially within the same state.
Yup. He has every legal right to continue pursuing you, he may have pulled you over "outside jurisdiction", but he's under no obligation to cease pursuit simply because you crossed over into another city/county. I'm not sure how points work in your state, but for me 2 points wouldn't be worth going to traffic court over. I'd just pay it, get radar/lidar detection, and move on.
__________________
E88 N54 Alpinweiss/Coral Red/Motiv HTA 3586r Tial .82AR/Meisterschaft Race/Berk Resonated/ER CP/Synapse/VRSF FMIC/FFTEC LPFP/HFS-4 DO Stainless Lines/BMS Thermostat Delete/Rob Beck PCV Valve + Cap/BMS OCC/ST Coilovers/M3 FCA + Tension Rods/M3 Subframe Bushings/M3 FSB/DINAN Camber Plates/Apex ARC-8/Project Kics/VAC Hubs/Rogue Transmission Mounts/Alpina TCU Flash/Icarbon/Kerscher/BMW Performance
Appreciate 0
      02-06-2013, 01:05 PM   #11
jdip23
Enlisted Member
0
Rep
34
Posts

 
Drives: 2011 335IS
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: NJ

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2013 BMW M3  [0.00]
2011 BMW 335IS  [0.00]
just my two cents as I own an insurance agency but i would fight it BUT i only am familiar with NJ. Here in NJ you can plead your ticket down to an UNSAFE OPERATION OF A MOTOR VEHICLE. Its a hefty fine but will save you the insurance surcharge which will be about $500/year for 3 years. The points when looking at it from the State DMV is nothing to really worry about. It's the insurance points that will cost you the increased insurance costs. Those points will stay on for 3 years and the increased insurance costs can be costly.

But like i said that's in NJ...i have no idea if it applies where you are.
Appreciate 0
      02-06-2013, 02:49 PM   #12
prodogs
Registered
0
Rep
3
Posts

 
Drives: x5 m sport
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: charlotte

iTrader: (0)

NC - Speeding = License Suspension

In NC Speeding over 15 MPH = 3-6 month license suspension. I got ticket in Virginia and 1 year later got letter from NC DMV.
If i would have contested the speeding ticket instead of just mailing in the check it may not have shown up. Eventually had to go to a 1/2 day driving class so that my license would not be suspended.

If you already have 2 tickets - i would recommend contesting in court and hopefully having it not appearing on your record.
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:45 PM.




f30post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST