Charge Pipe Failure! Already started! **Updated with Pics**

rallybull · 06-09-2014, 03:18 AM

Maybe I'm missing something but if the failure happened under stock boost, should BMW not be footing the replacement costs under warranty?

FotiosF90M5 · 06-09-2014, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by rallybull

Maybe I'm missing something but if the failure happened under stock boost, should BMW not be footing the replacement costs under warranty?

My CP blew off yesterday. I have it on temporarily with a screw tight generic clamp. It's on surprisingly tight now. I only have MPPK and dinan exhaust. Car still doesn't drive right though. It will be fixed under warranty.

BimmerFan · 04-05-2015, 10:38 PM

What are the symptoms of a busted chargepipe? Is there a way to inspect the charge pipe while on the car. I have a couple of performance symptoms and I want to check if the charge pipe is related. Can I just look in the engine bay and inspect the charge pipe?

Peakboost · 04-06-2015, 12:57 PM

That was my car, lol its funny to find it on the forum. Estoril Blue F30 and I was running a Stage 2 JB4 tune with map 5 and 40% e85. It also has a downpipe from MPI (Miami Performance Inc.), Borla cat-back exhaust, and an afe intake. It ran like a dream till it blew the chargepipe. I replaced the damaged chargepipe with an ER chargepipe.

chrisdavelaw · 04-13-2016, 08:42 AM

I just had this happen. Car is stock. Check engine light came on and car went into limp mode. I had it towed in since it was barely able to accelerate. It was hesitating and jumping if I gave it more than 5% throttle. The car is a 2014 with 34K miles on it. Repair was warranty but still seems too soon for it to have failed.

Chicken_Joe · 04-13-2016, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by becker800

So we should just buy the ER chargepipe and be done with it

What I dont want to happen is have it fail catastrophically where it needs towed to BMW and the tune is on (whether that caused it or not obviously isnt good)
I know you can tell them where to tow it too but it would obviously be a pain to tow it home, remove JB4, then tow it back

BMW should just add the option for the ER CP on the purchase options lmao

Chicken_Joe · 04-13-2016, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by chrisdavelaw

I just had this happen. Car is stock. Check engine light came on and car went into limp mode. I had it towed in since it was barely able to accelerate. It was hesitating and jumping if I gave it more than 5% throttle. The car is a 2014 with 34K miles on it. Repair was warranty but still seems too soon for it to have failed.

Damn my car had this happen on stock tune and it didn't get CEL or limp mode. Kinda scary lol

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 04-13-2016, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Chicken_Joe

BMW should just add the option for the ER CP on the purchase options lmao

LOL

Mike

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 04-13-2016, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Chicken_Joe

Damn my car had this happen on stock tune and it didn't get CEL or limp mode. Kinda scary lol

The CEL will usually only flash if its a substantial failure.. A small hairline crack might not leak enough boost for the CEL to flash, as the ECU will compensate for the reduced boost by working the turbos harder.

Mike

Chicken_Joe · 04-13-2016, 09:32 AM

These are the pics of my stock CP Failure running stock boost. Just to help others locate breaking points. I did not get CEL or Limp mode so be careful guys.

[Edit]: pardon the language in the last picture. Hehe

theEZV · 04-13-2016, 09:34 AM

Stock boost? Yikes. Maybe I need to pick up a ER CP and keep it in the trunk just in case.

Chicken_Joe · 04-13-2016, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

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Originally Posted by Chicken_Joe

Damn my car had this happen on stock tune and it didn't get CEL or limp mode. Kinda scary lol

The CEL will usually only flash if its a substantial failure.. A small hairline crack might not leak enough boost for the CEL to flash, as the ECU will compensate for the reduced boost by working the turbos harder.

Mike

My CP literally exploded off of my TB lol

Chicken_Joe · 04-13-2016, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by theEZV

Stock boost? Yikes. Maybe I need to pick up a ER CP and keep it in the trunk just in case.

Would not be a bad idea

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 04-13-2016, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Chicken_Joe

My CP literally exploded off of my TB lol

Oh wow...

Mike

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 04-13-2016, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Chicken_Joe

Would not be a bad idea

Would work better installed

LOL

Mike

_bdiddyb_ · 04-13-2016, 12:16 PM

My 335 just hit its 3 years anniversary and 40K miles. I just bought it a present, from n54tuning! Charge pipe and TIC pipe.

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 04-13-2016, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by _bdiddyb_

My 335 just hit its 3 years anniversary and 40K miles. I just bought it a present, from n54tuning! Charge pipe and TIC pipe.

Awesome..

Mike

zerreissen · 04-23-2016, 10:28 AM

Mine just blew yesterday, on stock boost, at 25k miles. Kinda eerie how the break looks exactly the same as Chicken_Joe's. Ordered an ER replacement, kinda disappointed that x-ph didn't offer expedited shipping during the checkout process.

Kid Red · 06-17-2016, 02:26 PM

My '13 335i that I've had for 3 months just blew it's charge pipe that was just replaced by the dealer. I believe the car is stock. I bought it from a BMW dealer, but was told the previous owner "coded out the start/stop on sport mode". I'm not clear if that was strictly a coding job, or part of a tune.

So I turned a corner last night, and then went WOT. Around maybe 3rd gear (AT) I heard a pop, then a huge power loss surrounded by lots of whining/moaning sounds during revs. A drive train malfunction light was triggered on my iDrive. After a restart, I only had a solid engine light. I was able to drive it the next day to the same dealer, albeit driving like I was in Eco mode

If they only last 42k, where I'm at currently, I will be upgrading as well.

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 06-18-2016, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Kid Red

My '13 335i that I've had for 3 months just blew it's charge pipe that was just replaced by the dealer. I believe the car is stock. I bought it from a BMW dealer, but was told the previous owner "coded out the start/stop on sport mode". I'm not clear if that was strictly a coding job, or part of a tune.

So I turned a corner last night, and then went WOT. Around maybe 3rd gear (AT) I heard a pop, then a huge power loss surrounded by lots of whining/moaning sounds during revs. A drive train malfunction light was triggered on my iDrive. After a restart, I only had a solid engine light. I was able to drive it the next day to the same dealer, albeit driving like I was in Eco mode

If they only last 42k, where I'm at currently, I will be upgrading as well.

I've had one customer who replaced his charge pipe 2 times under warranty at the dealer and then on the third failure gave up and bought an ER pipe.

Mike

2013_Estoril_335i · 06-29-2016, 11:29 PM

Just blew my OEM cp today. Car has 37k miles, 1k of which were on jb4 map 1 (4psi over stock) helloooo er cp!

mbanks21 · 07-03-2016, 10:50 AM

Just bought one. Car only has 8k miles but I have jb4 with ewg/e85 and VRSF DP so better safe than sorry

06-09-2014, 03:18 AM	#45
rallybull Major 179 Rep 1,044 Posts Drives: F30 335i w/PPK Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	Maybe I'm missing something but if the failure happened under stock boost, should BMW not be footing the replacement costs under warranty?
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04-05-2015, 10:38 PM	#47
BimmerFan Second Lieutenant 70 Rep 271 Posts Drives: 2021 M550i Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Earth iTrader: (0)	What are the symptoms of a busted chargepipe? Is there a way to inspect the charge pipe while on the car. I have a couple of performance symptoms and I want to check if the charge pipe is related. Can I just look in the engine bay and inspect the charge pipe? __________________ 2021 M550i BMS Pedal tuner JB4
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04-06-2015, 12:57 PM	#48
Peakboost New Member 10 Rep 18 Posts Drives: 2020 F87 M2 Comp. Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: United States iTrader: (0)	That was my car, lol its funny to find it on the forum. Estoril Blue F30 and I was running a Stage 2 JB4 tune with map 5 and 40% e85. It also has a downpipe from MPI (Miami Performance Inc.), Borla cat-back exhaust, and an afe intake. It ran like a dream till it blew the chargepipe. I replaced the damaged chargepipe with an ER chargepipe.
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04-13-2016, 08:42 AM	#49
chrisdavelaw Private 136 Rep 82 Posts Drives: 2023 M2, 2022 X5MC Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Sarasota FL iTrader: (0) Garage List 2022 BMW X5MC [0.00]	2014 F30 335i Charge Pipe Failure I just had this happen. Car is stock. Check engine light came on and car went into limp mode. I had it towed in since it was barely able to accelerate. It was hesitating and jumping if I gave it more than 5% throttle. The car is a 2014 with 34K miles on it. Repair was warranty but still seems too soon for it to have failed.
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04-13-2016, 09:32 AM	#54
Chicken_Joe Lieutenant Colonel 606 Rep 1,782 Posts Drives: 2013 F30 335i M Sport. EB 6M Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Frontenac, Missouri iTrader: (3)	These are the pics of my stock CP Failure running stock boost. Just to help others locate breaking points. I did not get CEL or Limp mode so be careful guys. [Edit]: pardon the language in the last picture. Hehe Attached Images __________________ 13' 335i M Sport. EBII/Coral Red 6MT. RPI GT exhaust, Resonator delete, PS1, GFB DV , BM3 Stage 2, ER CP, VRSF DP, VRSF 5.5in Stepped FMIC, Dinan Shockware. Carbon M Performance rear diffuser. M4 trunk lip. Conti DWS06 225/40/19 and 255/35/19
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04-13-2016, 09:34 AM	#55
theEZV Lieutenant 178 Rep 463 Posts Drives: F30 335i; Looking for F80 Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Clarksburg, MD iTrader: (0)	Stock boost? Yikes. Maybe I need to pick up a ER CP and keep it in the trunk just in case.
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04-13-2016, 12:16 PM	#60
_bdiddyb_ Lieutenant 215 Rep 558 Posts Drives: 2013 335i Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: California iTrader: (1)	My 335 just hit its 3 years anniversary and 40K miles. I just bought it a present, from n54tuning! Charge pipe and TIC pipe.
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04-23-2016, 10:28 AM	#62
zerreissen Private 22 Rep 87 Posts Drives: 2022 PB M240i Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: San Antonio, TX iTrader: (0)	Mine just blew yesterday, on stock boost, at 25k miles. Kinda eerie how the break looks exactly the same as Chicken_Joe's. Ordered an ER replacement, kinda disappointed that x-ph didn't offer expedited shipping during the checkout process. __________________ '22 M240i Portimao/Cognac (Sold) '14 335i Estoril/BK • M Sport • Prem/Tech Pkg • M Perf INTR • VMR V710FF • Shifteck DP (Sold) '95 M3 Avus/Dove • PSS9 • Vorschlag Camber Plates • 3.46 Torsen Diff • etc.
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06-17-2016, 02:26 PM	#63
Kid Red Captain 107 Rep 883 Posts Drives: 2021 X5 40i Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Coral Springs, Fl iTrader: (6)	My '13 335i that I've had for 3 months just blew it's charge pipe that was just replaced by the dealer. I believe the car is stock. I bought it from a BMW dealer, but was told the previous owner "coded out the start/stop on sport mode". I'm not clear if that was strictly a coding job, or part of a tune. So I turned a corner last night, and then went WOT. Around maybe 3rd gear (AT) I heard a pop, then a huge power loss surrounded by lots of whining/moaning sounds during revs. A drive train malfunction light was triggered on my iDrive. After a restart, I only had a solid engine light. I was able to drive it the next day to the same dealer, albeit driving like I was in Eco mode If they only last 42k, where I'm at currently, I will be upgrading as well. __________________ Current: 2021 Carbon Black w/Cognac X5 M Sport Sold: 2018 Dark Graphite 540i M Sport Sold: 2013 Mineral Grey 335i M-Sport Sold: 2010 Sapphire Black E90 335i
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06-29-2016, 11:29 PM	#65
2013_Estoril_335i Private 20 Rep 60 Posts Drives: 2013 BMW 335i Estoril Blue Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Kansas City, Missouri iTrader: (0)	Just blew my OEM cp today. Car has 37k miles, 1k of which were on jb4 map 1 (4psi over stock) helloooo er cp!
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07-03-2016, 10:50 AM	#66
mbanks21 Colonel 1268 Rep 2,957 Posts Drives: 2015 335i MSport Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: High Bridge, NJ iTrader: (8)	Just bought one. Car only has 8k miles but I have jb4 with ewg/e85 and VRSF DP so better safe than sorry __________________ 2015 335i Msport/6 JB4/EWG/E30/VRSF DP/ER CP/ VRSF Race Exhaust/ Injen Intake/Verde Axis 19x8.5/9.5 245/35/275/30 Conti Extreme CS/ H&R Sports / Motorsport Hardware Stud Conversion
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